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Author Topic: Will Kubica Replace Palmer at Renault?  (Read 2220 times)

Offline cosworth151

Will Kubica Replace Palmer at Renault?
« on: June 08, 2017, 04:05:09 PM »
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  • Robert Kubica returned to an F1 car Tuesday. He logged 115 laps in a Renault. It looks like Montreal might be the make or break race for Jolyon Palmer.

    I was one of many people who thought Kubica would have a great F1 career. That was before his 2011 rally shunt. I wonder how he'll do after a 6 year break.


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    Offline lkjohnson1950

    Re: Will Kubica Replace Palmer at Renault?
    « Reply #1 on: June 08, 2017, 07:43:28 PM »
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  • His comments after the test sounded like he didn't think he was at a competitive level. He was talking about how much he'd lost.
    Lonny

    Offline Dare

    Re: Will Kubica Replace Palmer at Renault?
    « Reply #2 on: June 08, 2017, 10:51:10 PM »
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  • In the past he's said his injury prevented him from driving
    certain tracks. And besides there's plenty of 15 year olds
    waiting to get in F1 bought by rich parents or sponsons
    "The
    democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those
    who are
    willing to work and give to those who would not."
    --
    Thomas
    Jefferson

    Online Scott

    Re: Will Kubica Replace Palmer at Renault?
    « Reply #3 on: June 09, 2017, 12:21:04 PM »
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  • I think it would be a bit of a reach to put him in a race seat.  Maybe reserve driver and swap him in for a couple of races, but it would be a big gamble to give him a race seat.
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    Offline Jericoke

    Re: Will Kubica Replace Palmer at Renault?
    « Reply #4 on: June 09, 2017, 01:53:36 PM »
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  • I think it would be a bit of a reach to put him in a race seat.  Maybe reserve driver and swap him in for a couple of races, but it would be a big gamble to give him a race seat.

    Not such a big gamble.  An F1 driver's job is to attract sponsors.  Winning is a good way to do that, but since Renault isn't going to win, the next best way is get a driver who is going to get people talking. 

    Also, if Renault looks at 2017 as a development year, having an experienced driver will provide more feedback than tossing a youngster in the deep end will.

    Offline cosworth151

    Re: Will Kubica Replace Palmer at Renault?
    « Reply #5 on: June 09, 2017, 02:01:42 PM »
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  • I agree. As we say here in the hills, the chances of Alonso being at Renault next season are slim & none, and Slim left town.
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    Offline lkjohnson1950

    Re: Will Kubica Replace Palmer at Renault?
    « Reply #6 on: June 09, 2017, 10:59:30 PM »
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  • According to Steve Matchett of NBC, Kubica's goal is a shot at FP 1 and a 2017 car at a GP this year.
    Lonny

    Offline Irisado

    Re: Will Kubica Replace Palmer at Renault?
    « Reply #7 on: June 10, 2017, 01:18:52 PM »
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  • He is not going to drive in a race this season.  At best, he may appear in a practice session, but I don't think that he believes he can deliver the level of performance that he would wish to.  I would be very surprised if his career in Formula 1 were to restart in any meaningful way.

    As for Palmer, he is definitely under pressure.  He hasn't done anything really awful and he has had a lot of reliability problems, but he is lacking pace relative to his team mate.  Renault has produced a car capable of regularly finishing in the lower reaches of the top ten, and Palmer has yet to get anywhere near that level of performance.
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    Offline Alianora La Canta

    Re: Will Kubica Replace Palmer at Renault?
    « Reply #8 on: June 14, 2017, 10:29:38 PM »
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  • I think Robert is 2-3 years away from any sort of F1 race, because he's not the type to rush heedless into things. I could, however, see this as a prelude to a lower-level single-seater campaign, dovetailed with something else such as a sportscar or Renault Clio Cup campaign.
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    Offline Dare

    Re: Will Kubica Replace Palmer at Renault?
    « Reply #9 on: June 21, 2017, 08:38:17 PM »
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  • With the changes at Sauber it looks like Palmer is safe for
    the time being
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    democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those
    who are
    willing to work and give to those who would not."
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    Offline John S

    Re: Will Kubica Replace Palmer at Renault?
    « Reply #10 on: June 22, 2017, 09:42:49 AM »
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  • With the changes at Sauber it looks like Palmer is safe for
    the time being

    Care to explain your thinking there Dare?  :confused:
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    Offline ChrisCurtis

    Re: Will Kubica Replace Palmer at Renault?
    « Reply #11 on: July 17, 2017, 01:03:24 PM »
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  • Following the second test, are people still thinking the same?

    I wouldn't be at all surprised to see Kubica in the Renault next year. I guess they just need to see how he copes with the extra down force and tight left handers before making any kind of final decision.

    That aside, he certainly still seems to have what it takes.


    Offline ChrisCurtis

    Re: Will Kubica Replace Palmer at Renault?
    « Reply #12 on: July 24, 2017, 12:07:21 PM »
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  • Great to read today that Kubica is going to be part of Hungary test on August 2nd.

    The opportunity to drive the current car and be compared directly to the current drivers will hopefully show that despite the increased physicality needed to drive this seasons' cars, that he still has what it takes and will be capable of a return to F1.

    The guy has an amazing talent and I hope it plays out for him, even if it is at the expense of Palmer.

    Offline Dare

    Re: Will Kubica Replace Palmer at Renault?
    « Reply #13 on: July 24, 2017, 11:58:44 PM »
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  • Kubica will be 33 in December. A age that many might consider
    getting too old for F1 for many that haven't missed years because
    of a injury. Be better to invest in a younger driver.
    "The
    democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those
    who are
    willing to work and give to those who would not."
    --
    Thomas
    Jefferson

    Offline lkjohnson1950

    Re: Will Kubica Replace Palmer at Renault?
    « Reply #14 on: July 25, 2017, 08:08:11 AM »
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  • If he can come close to Hulkenberg's times, Palmer is in trouble. I don't know if Palmer has some sort of problem, but he has been .5 second or more slower than Hulk all season. He struggles to make Q2 when Hulk is getting into Q3 frequently. Renault has to be thinking of replacing JP.
    Lonny