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Author Topic: Mercedes bus robbed  (Read 517 times)

Offline Dare

Mercedes bus robbed
« on: November 11, 2017, 02:10:53 PM »
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  • Every year something like this happens at Brazil....this problem needsto be addressed before someone dies



    http://www.skysports.com/f1/news/12433/11122045/mercedes-team-members-unhurt-after-minibus-robbed-at-gunpoint


    "The
    democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those
    who are
    willing to work and give to those who would not."
    --
    Thomas
    Jefferson

    Offline ChrisCurtis

    Re: Mercedes bus robbed
    « Reply #1 on: November 11, 2017, 02:49:44 PM »
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  • Agreed, each year the robbers seem to get more and more brave. Itís only a matter of time before someone gets killed. Then the powers that be in F1 will do something. That has a distinct feeling of dejavu, F1 reacting to someone losing their life....

    Offline Jericoke

    Re: Mercedes bus robbed
    « Reply #2 on: November 11, 2017, 03:26:53 PM »
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  • And yet fans complain about losing 'traditional' races.  F1 has no business being in Interlagos, it's simply not safe, and yet fans consistently consider it one of the best races of the year.  It's one thing for drivers and mechanics to accept risks on track, but something else entirely for fans to expect them take risks off track.

    Brazil was willing to pour money into single use facilities for the World Cup and Olympics, surely they can build a world class race track somewhere safer.  Like other fans, I'd hate to give up a good race, but I don't want F1 risking lives for my amusement either.

    Offline Scott

    Re: Mercedes bus robbed
    « Reply #3 on: November 11, 2017, 05:56:26 PM »
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  • It's in a crappy part of the city, so the team vehicles have to bolt to and from the hotel zone.  I would hold the promoters responsible and demand either a policed route to and from the hotels or that they build hotel facilities for the team directly at the track. 
    The Honey Badger doesn't give a...

    Offline Alianora La Canta

    Re: Mercedes bus robbed
    « Reply #4 on: November 13, 2017, 08:56:36 PM »
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  • The route already is specifically policed (with security being stepped up, to no avail, on both Saturday and Sunday) and there's at least 4 hotels on Booking.com on that street (2 on either side of the main gate into the track) that still had places for race day... ...during qualifying. It doesn't seem to be sufficient :(
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    Offline Robem64

    Re: Mercedes bus robbed
    « Reply #5 on: November 14, 2017, 08:01:47 AM »
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  • Personally I love to get away to races - this is one I would avoid even though I'd love to visit Brazil. If a team bus can get held up at gunpoint - how does the average punter fare in a place like this.

    F1 need to get serious and tough on repeat incidents like this - the place is not safe. Drop it from the calendar until safety can be assured - surely there are lots of other safer places which would love to host F1? I know money talks but not at the expense of people safety, security and as others have said - how long before a life is lost.

    It can't be right to entertain dangerous places yet drop off a race like Malaysia which, in all honesty, could not be friendlier and more hospitable.


    "I'm not a pessimist, I'm an optimist with experience"

    Offline Dare

    Re: Mercedes bus robbed
    « Reply #6 on: November 14, 2017, 01:05:39 PM »
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  • How many lives or lost we never hear about during
    the Brazil GP race week.
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    democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those
    who are
    willing to work and give to those who would not."
    --
    Thomas
    Jefferson

    Offline Scott

    Re: Mercedes bus robbed
    « Reply #7 on: November 14, 2017, 03:02:51 PM »
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  • The homicide rate in Sao Paulo is down remarkably in the last decade, but it is a bit murky to find much on muggings, which seem to be on the rise through reporting on various tourist sites (though this can be interpreted differently because it is heresay rather than factual).  The tactic most often talked about is being mugged while in a taxi stuck in traffic.  A couple of guys on a motorbike pull up to your stopped taxi, point a gun and demand wallets, phones and watches and then take off into the traffic while you are still stuck in your cab.  Rarely is anyone hurt.  Almost indefensible and not very preventable.  Buses are not recommended, so safe transportation is a bit of an issue.
    « Last Edit: November 14, 2017, 04:07:22 PM by Scott »
    The Honey Badger doesn't give a...

    Offline Andy B

    Re: Mercedes bus robbed
    « Reply #8 on: November 16, 2017, 08:05:30 AM »
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  • Personally I love to get away to races - this is one I would avoid even though I'd love to visit Brazil. If a team bus can get held up at gunpoint - how does the average punter fare in a place like this.

    F1 need to get serious and tough on repeat incidents like this - the place is not safe. Drop it from the calendar until safety can be assured - surely there are lots of other safer places which would love to host F1? I know money talks but not at the expense of people safety, security and as others have said - how long before a life is lost.

    It can't be right to entertain dangerous places yet drop off a race like Malaysia which, in all honesty, could not be friendlier and more hospitable.

    Wot he said!  :good:
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    Offline Jericoke

    Re: Mercedes bus robbed
    « Reply #9 on: November 16, 2017, 03:21:44 PM »
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  • At least the FIA is looking into it:

    https://www.gpupdate.net/en/f1-news/361022/fia-f1-to-discuss-event-security-at-wmsc/

    There is precedent to remove the GP from the season.  When there were racist incidents in Spain, the FIA promised to cancel future Spanish Grands Prix if it was repeated.
    https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2009/may/10/lewis-hamilton-racism-spanish-grand-prix

    It's not up to the FIA to protect their teams; it's up to the promoter to provide a safe venue.  Brazil has been given numerous opportunities, and while I'd hate to lose a generally entertaining race track, it's time to show that safety truly is the FIA's number one mandate.