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  • Scott: I haven't abandoned GPW, just need to shift focus a bit during the off-season.
    January 27, 2018, 08:17:01 PM
  • Scott: Nice score getting an Amazon ad up there, Wizzo!   :good:
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  • Scott: Fraid I won't be around for the season final...we have groups at the hotel lunch and dinner and we are moving Monday am, so barely a minute to sit down...perhaps I can pop in for a minute or two at some point.
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  • Wizzo: Hi Greg, you're better off telling us about your concept in a written post on the forum for all to see. I'm sure you'll get a few opinions.
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  • Greg_82: Hello, anyone online to discuss?
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  • Greg_82: the best would be to go on skype to discuss the concept, would that be possible with some of you guys?
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  • Greg_82: I'm new and I would like to know if some of you would have some time to spend with me because I'm launching a new concept about F1 and I would like to have your idea
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  • Scott: No hassle, I just thought with all the merry go round, it might be easier to simply use a couple generic slots.  But anyhow, that's great Dare.
    October 26, 2017, 06:27:38 PM
  • Dare: Hartley and Gasly have been added to GG
    October 24, 2017, 11:28:40 PM
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    October 24, 2017, 02:36:11 PM
  • Scott: I would say we use Hartly as Jenson Button on the GG and Gasly as Paur Di Resta...any nay's?
    October 24, 2017, 02:36:03 PM
  • Scott: For example we would need to add Gasly and Hartley for Mexico
    October 24, 2017, 02:34:54 PM
  • Scott: We could add in 'Driver 1' and 'Driver 2' and then make announcements in Shoutbox to tell people which driver sub is which (in the off chance that there are two).
    October 22, 2017, 02:15:55 PM
  • Scott: Not that I think he would actually make top 8
    October 22, 2017, 02:07:30 PM
  • Scott: I wonder if we shouldn't have one or two generic driver slots for substitutions, like Hartley
    October 22, 2017, 02:07:02 PM
  • ChrisCurtis: Well that’s an interesting start!
    September 17, 2017, 01:05:06 PM
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Today at 10:37:31 AM by monty
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I just read that the British Energy drinks company is in talks to take over Force India. They definitely have more money than the current Force India share holders and I guess Vijay Mallya needs to concentrate on keeping out of Indian jails.
February 20, 2018, 02:18:06 PM by Dare
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 :swoon: Oops! Ricciardo exceeded the limits of the new Red Bull in the slippery wet conditions of Silverstone and hit the barriers. The one-off front wing was damaged so I guess they did not get the full benefit of the 100km they are allowed during shake-downs.
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February 17, 2018, 01:09:56 PM by Irisado
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It's funny how time passes.  I've been watching a lot of old races from the mid to late 1990s and the early 2000s lately to test whether I've been looking back at the Formula 1 of my younger years with rose tinted spectacles.  I've discovered that I have not.  Contemporary Formula 1 is in a terrible state and I am struggling to find any enthusiasm for the forthcoming season, yet rather than just write a few lines about it, I thought that I would go into some detail to explain why I feel the way that I do and what I think needs to be changed to solve the issues facing contemporary Formula 1.  Before I begin, it is important to define what I mean by contemporary Formula 1.  Contemporary Formula 1, for the purposes of this discussion, is the Pirelli, DRS, followed by turbo era, so Formula 1 since 2011.  This examination of Formula 1 is going to be long and is also going to be a bit of a trip down memory lane, which may well be a bit sentimental and sometimes a little moving, but hopefully at least a few of you will find it interesting and will follow it through to the end.

I started watching Formula 1 in 1995.  Before the 1995 San Marino Grand Prix, I had seen bits of races in the early 1990s; indeed my first memory of Formula 1 was the pile up at the first corner of the 1994 Italian Grand Prix which took Johnny Herbert's Lotus Mugen Honda out after his stunning qualifying performance in that uncompetitive car.  The 1995 San Marino Grand Prix still sticks in my mind to this day.  I remember Damon Hill winning imperiously after an excellent drive, along with Schumacher crashing out after switching to slick tyres on a drying track.  It was dramatic, it was exciting, drivers going off were punished by gravel traps or barriers, and it was also diverse.  There were so many drivers, teams, and engine suppliers to focus on.  I was spoilt for choice.  As those of you who have interacted with me here will know, I was, and still am, a massive Minardi fan, but back in 1995, I also supported other small teams alongside Minardi, notably Forti and Pacific (I'd also certainly have been an Osella fan had I started watching Formula 1 earlier).  Every race in 1995 was an adventure.  There were dramatic moments, unpredictable race results, and inspiring drives or battles up and down the grid.  This does not mean that everything was perfect.  Overtaking was too difficult, the television coverage in terms of the local director following the lead cars for too long too often, it was too difficult to score points, and the distribution of wealth among the teams were all very problematic, but these issues did not undermine the diversity and the interest in the competitors for me.  Another issue that strikes me looking back at 1995 and other seasons that followed it is that the drivers were going as fast as possible on every lap of a race.  This meant that the racing appeared faster and drivers made more mistakes, making watching a Grand Prix a much more on the edge of the seat experience.

Let's compare 1995 to contemporary Formula 1.  Contemporary Formula 1 lacks this feel of on the edge racing because drivers are driving as slowly as possible in order to win.  This is the very antithesis of Formula 1.  In addition, the racing has become so artificial that it is really exciting.  DRS passes are lifeless, predictable, and dull.  They have taken all the skill out of defensive driving.  If a car comes up behind another on fresher tyres and with DRS, it will just sail straight by.  This is not exciting at all.  The Pirelli tyres, which initially made for some unpredictable races, especially in 2012, have since become very unhelpful.  Their lack of durability, combined with the characteristics of the tyre construction, means that they do not lend themselves to pushing hard throughout the race, thus meaning that drivers are well within their limits and are very unlikely to make any mistakes.  All of this results in sterile and predictable racing.  Even when drivers do make a mistake, they pay little or no penalty for it.  The circuits, compared to even the mid 2000s, let alone 1995, are excessively sanitised and do not penalise drivers for mistakes.  Worse still, the nature of the circuits now creates endless debates about whether drivers have exceeded track limits or passed a competitor off the track, so to speak.  There would be no issue about drivers exceeding track limits if there were gravel at the edge of the circuit, just as used to be the case in years gone by.  Finally, and most damning of all compared to 1995, is the lack of diversity, both in terms of the teams and in terms of the engine suppliers, and the associated homogeneity, penalty rules, and bullet proof cars.

Let's compare the entry list for 1995 with that of 2018:

Ligier-Mugen Honda
Footwork (Arrows)-Hart

Red Bull-Renault
Force India-Mercedes
Toro Rosso-Honda
Sauber-Alfa Romeo

The differences are clear in terms of diversity, especially in terms of teams and engine suppliers.  However, it's even worse than it looks on paper.  There are only effectively nine teams on the current grid because Toro Rosso is a Red Bull satellite which very little, if any, independence from the Red Bull brand and policies.  Now, it is possible that Ligier was effectively owned by Benetton in 1995, but it operated as its own team much more than Toro Rosso is allowed to or able to in contemporary Formula 1.

In 1995 and for many years afterwards, the grid was decided on sheer speed and races would be decided on speed, strategy, and reliability.  In contemporary Formula 1, strategy is limited, speed is restricted (see above), and reliability is almost guaranteed because drivers are not going fast enough to stress the machinery and the penalty system encourages teams not to push the limits.  This results in a very predictable finishing order in the vast majority of races and the same faces on the podium time and again.

To illustrate this point, I will use the contemporary points system in Formula 1 on the 1995 championship (1995 system in brackets):

Schumacher: 268 (102)
Hill: 196 (69)
Herbert: 167 (45)
Coulthard: 154 (49)
Alesi: 137 (42)
Berger: 122 (31)
Frentzen: 94 (15)
Panis: 86 (16)
Blundell: 72 (13)
Hakkinen: 68 (17)
Barrichello: 58 (11)
Irvine: 54 (10)
Salo: 50 (5)
Brundle: 39 (7)
Morbidelli: 25 (5)
Boullion: 25 (3)
Lamy: 13 (1)
Suzuki: 12 (1)
Martini: 12 (0)
Badoer: 11 (0)
Katayama: 10 (0)
Diniz: 10 (0)
Papis: 6 (0)
Inoue: 6 (0)
Montermini 6 (0)
Gachot 4 (0)
Schiattarella 2 (0)
Wendlinger 1 (0)
Mansell 1 (0)
Magnussen 1 (0)
Moreno 0 (0)
Verstappen 0 (0)
Deletraz 0 (0)
Lavaggi 0 (0)

This shows that nearly all drivers would have scored points and all the teams would have scored points in much the same way as is the case now, but with greater benefits, as being able to score points more easily may well have saved many teams for having gone bankrupt over time, although I accept that a more even distribution of prize money would also have been needed, but that is still the case now.

Essentially, Formula 1 used to be much more unpredictable and exciting than is the case now.  Contemporary Formula 1 lacks the tension, the unreliability, the drama, the genuine racing, and the diversity of seasons gone by.  The powers that be are, in my view, failing to address any of the issues which are undermining the quality of modern Formula 1, so that begs the question as to what I think that they could or should do.

My suggestions are as follows:
1. Get rid of DRS.  I'd rather have less overtaking which is authentic than a lot of overtaking which is easy.
2. Get more teams and engine suppliers involved in the sport.  This would require a massive overhaul of the prize money system and the overall cost of Formula 1, but this needs to be done and very soon.
3. Scrap the gearbox and engine penalties and restrictions and bring back V10 normally aspirated engines.  All the gearbox and engine rule changes over the years have reduced diversity, increased reliability to excessively high levels, made a mockery of qualifying/starting grid order, and, most damningly of all, failed to reduce costs to allow small teams to compete.
4. Changing the philosophy of tyre construction to promote racing.
5. Maybe, just maybe, bringing back refuelling (I never thought that I would hear myself say this by the way, which just goes to show how much I want Formula 1 to change) to allow drivers to push hard throughout the race.
6. Reinstate gravel traps or an equivalent to stop all this nonsense about track limits.

This is just an initial list and I'd be interested to see what the rest of you think.

Hopefully, my trip down memory lane has been of interest to some of you and I also hope that some of the comparisons are valuable to you.  The comparison have conducted has all sorts of issues, which as a comparativist myself I am aware of, but as this is my hobby, rather than my job, I think that I can let it slide at this juncture ;).
February 14, 2018, 10:46:24 AM by TheoMT96
Views: 462 | Comments: 9

This is a poll to help me with my dissertation