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Title: Grid Kids
Post by: Dare on February 06, 2018, 01:43:32 AM
You have to be kidding me. My days are near the end


http://www.skysports.com/f1/news/12433/11237912/formula-1-to-introduce-grid-kids
Title: Re: Grid Kids
Post by: Scott on February 06, 2018, 07:31:47 AM
Obviously none of the decision makers has ever been a parent, or is so old they have forgotten what it is like to control a kids behaviour...  And what about those 35c days standing in the heat for an hour?  What about child labour laws?  A big can of worms.

You have to be kidding me. My days are near the end


http://www.skysports.com/f1/news/12433/11237912/formula-1-to-introduce-grid-kids
Title: Re: Grid Kids
Post by: Andy B on February 06, 2018, 08:33:06 PM
You have to be kidding me. My days are near the end


http://www.skysports.com/f1/news/12433/11237912/formula-1-to-introduce-grid-kids

rri are wearing me down too!
Title: Re: Grid Kids
Post by: cosworth151 on February 06, 2018, 09:57:21 PM
Kind of like replacing the Super Bowl with Puppy Bowl.
Title: Re: Grid Kids
Post by: Monty on February 07, 2018, 10:28:57 AM
Wait for the lawsuits - taking photographs of minors without permission  :fool:
Title: Re: Grid Kids
Post by: Ian on February 07, 2018, 11:17:03 AM
Not only that Monty, it could be a paedo's paradise, it happens all too often.
Title: Re: Grid Kids
Post by: Jericoke on February 07, 2018, 04:36:23 PM
Not only that Monty, it could be a paedo's paradise, it happens all too often.

This took an odd turn... the kids need to be protected from predators but women are fair game?

If the grid girls are safe, then grid kids are equally safe.  If the kids aren't safe, then the women aren't either.
Title: Re: Grid Kids
Post by: Ian on February 07, 2018, 04:53:51 PM
But a woman's more likely to deliver a deserved smack in the kisser.
Title: Re: Grid Kids
Post by: Monty on February 08, 2018, 10:00:24 AM
I don't think it is a case of being 'safe' but the women chose to 'parade' as a job but these kids will be 'paraded' to suit the promoters. I just do not see the point.
When I went to the Shanghai GP I found that the organisors give free passes to high school students (they also give them flags which is why you see so many international flags being waved along the perimeter fencing). They were all interested in the sport and got to watch a live F1 race which they couldn't possibly afford to do otherwise. But what would young kids get out of being pushed and pulled around the start line or podium celebrations? 
Title: Re: Grid Kids
Post by: cosworth151 on February 08, 2018, 07:26:57 PM
Jean Alesi doesn't like it, either:

http://autoweek.com/article/formula-one/former-f1-driver-alesi-says-no-thanks-grid-kids
Title: Re: Grid Kids
Post by: Jericoke on February 08, 2018, 08:14:09 PM
Jean Alesi doesn't like it, either:

http://autoweek.com/article/formula-one/former-f1-driver-alesi-says-no-thanks-grid-kids

I'm getting tired of people saying the only way women can work in F1 is as grid girls.  (You can accuse me of being overly sensitive, but if the only reason someone can justify grid girls is to say that girls need the job, that means that's all they can imagine girls doing in F1)
Title: Re: Grid Kids
Post by: Alianora La Canta on February 09, 2018, 04:32:06 PM
I'm happy with the idea of grid kids, as long as there is a selection process based on merit at the proposed role rather than lottery or skill in karting (national sporting authorities will get both options, provided they select from among their under-16 karters). Some children (especially teenagers, but even some people a little younger) are perfectly capable of standing around holding a sign, and could make some useful paddock connections that way. Others, as Scott points out so well, are just an aggravation waiting to happen in such a role. Thankfully, F1 has been sensible enough to require parents (or, presumably, whichever adult(s) is/are accompanying each child) to join the children on the grid, which is likely to put a lid on minor examples of overenthusiastic disobedience. (For example, don't expect to see the grid itself turn into an autograph session, for this reason).

Hopefully, the fact that it is families/groups going onto the grid, not just single people (of any age), will deter race organisers from making the children wear anything egregiously awful (either in the scantily-clad sense, or any other possible interpretation of that sentence). I also assume that the rules on the back of F1 race tickets, which prevents anyone from objecting if they are recorded and broadcast, would apply equally to the grid as it does everywhere else in trackside venues - preventing any possible objection from parents to their young ones being photographed.

I will also say: only karters from the nation hosting the race (or, probably in the case of Monaco, these plus karters from nearby not doing the duty at their actual home Grand Prix) can be selected. This means that nobody under the age of 8 could possibly be selected - nor anyone who is being accompanied by a single adult plus a sibling below the age of 8.
Title: Re: Grid Kids
Post by: Irisado on February 17, 2018, 11:45:51 AM
It's a horrible idea which is seeking to emulate a populist approach from football.  The last thing that I want to see in the build up to a race are inanely grinning kids in oversized overalls being subjected to media scrutiny and beamed across the globe.  My view is that grid girls, grid boys, and grid kids are all unnecessary and Formula 1 can managed without all of them.
Title: Re: Grid Kids
Post by: Alianora La Canta on February 17, 2018, 06:57:53 PM
Irisado, I would agree with you, and point to WEC as an example.

F1, however, appears to disagree with us on that one.
Title: Re: Grid Kids
Post by: Calman on April 05, 2018, 09:11:04 PM
So, this is the latest ... and shows to the world ONCE AGAIN! how disorganised F1/FOM/FIA (take your pick) has become.  Partly in thanks to Liberty Media.

(http://cdn2.theweek.co.uk/sites/theweek/files/styles/16x9_710/public/2018/04/grid_girls_monaco_grand_prix_formula_1_amc_liberty_media_getty_images_688979210.jpg?itok=RukhqhBC)
http://www.theweek.co.uk/formula-1/92740/grid-girls-formula-1-monaco-grand-prix-liberty-media

All the best,
Cal :)
Title: Re: Grid Kids
Post by: Ian on April 05, 2018, 10:38:56 PM
Can't read it 'cos it wants me to whitelist 'The Week', enough cr*p pops up now, don't need any more. Don't agree with scrapping the grid girls anyway, denying females work they were happy to do.
Title: Re: Grid Kids
Post by: Calman on April 05, 2018, 11:15:17 PM
I think now that Monaco has raised a finger or two in Liberty Media's direction, other race venues may follow their lead.   As the article suggests, there is nothing stopping "Grid Girls" being employed to carry out ANY promotional work, even if they aren't standing with Name Boards like "Glamourous Lampposts".

So, watch this space, as we "may" have more bling on the grid in 2018 (other than Lewis H's wardrobe).

All the best,
Cal :)
Title: Re: Grid Kids
Post by: Andy B on April 05, 2018, 11:23:43 PM
Russia have also jumped onto the bandwagon I'm pleased to say they have stated "its because our girls are the best looking".
Title: Re: Grid Kids
Post by: lkjohnson1950 on April 06, 2018, 02:02:43 AM
Yeah, well, there are beautiful girls everywhere in the world.
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