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Author Topic: Schumacher Penalised  (Read 4174 times)

Offline Ian

Schumacher Penalised
« on: May 16, 2010, 06:18:50 PM »
Michael handed a drive through penalty for his pass on Alonso under S/C(even though green flags and green lights on)this is converted into a 20second time penalty which drops him from 6th to 12th.  :sick:


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Offline Canada Darrell™

Re: Schumacher Penalised
« Reply #1 on: May 16, 2010, 07:58:13 PM »
So having read as much as I can about the incident and both side's interpretation of the rules I'm still confused. If we take the stewards version then why even bother having the safety car duck into the pits on the last lap and go to green flag status? Why not just have all the cars follow the SC into the pits and be done with it?

 :confused:
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Offline Scott

Re: Schumacher Penalised
« Reply #2 on: May 16, 2010, 08:03:50 PM »
Exactly.  Why on earth would they bother doing that?  It just encourages a situation like this.  Either finish the race under yellow, or do like NASCAR and run Green, White and Checker laps (write it into the TV contracts if you have to, but you'll keep fans to the end if you insist on a 3 lap clear run at the end of any race, no matter what happens). 

One one hand Schumi took advantage of an obviously controversial situation, but on the other hand, what the heck was Alonso thinking???  He should have made his car so wide that his wheels were rubbing both sides of the track!

I would have been much happier if Alonso had tried it, so he could be pushed out of the points...would have helped with my points.   :P :P
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Offline Ian

Re: Schumacher Penalised
« Reply #3 on: May 16, 2010, 08:13:35 PM »
Safety Car Rule 40.13
If the race ends whilst the safety car is deployed it will enter the pitlane at the end of the last lap and the cars will take the chequered flag as normal without overtaking.

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Re: Schumacher Penalised
« Reply #4 on: May 16, 2010, 08:44:06 PM »
 :nono: naughty naughty Micheal ;)
He has something about that corner, isnt it where he parked his Ferrari in 2006? ;)
I thought you said Schumi was going to be holding alonso up ian ? ;)
Didn't my Fernando do well hehe :D
Jugirl

Offline Canada Darrell™

Re: Schumacher Penalised
« Reply #5 on: May 16, 2010, 08:47:43 PM »
Safety Car Rule 40.13
If the race ends whilst the safety car is deployed it will enter the pitlane at the end of the last lap and the cars will take the chequered flag as normal without overtaking.



Yup, read that myself earlier, but I can't for the life of me figure out why they would go to green flag status (which I'm led to believe they did?). Doesn't green flag mean "race"?
Ah well, we'll hear shortly the result of the appeal I guess.
Kimi's back! Future double WDC.

Offline Ian

Re: Schumacher Penalised
« Reply #6 on: May 16, 2010, 08:51:38 PM »
Got to say Jugirl I was well impressed with Fernando today, and there I was jumping up and down when Schumey slipped past him, rubbing my hands ready to give you some stick tonight, never mind, the time will come hehe.
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Offline Ian

Re: Schumacher Penalised
« Reply #7 on: May 16, 2010, 08:54:34 PM »
I can't understand that either Darrell, green after all is GO, RACE.
An aircraft landing is just a controlled crash.

Offline Scott

Re: Schumacher Penalised
« Reply #8 on: May 16, 2010, 09:00:14 PM »
Too bad about Schumi (I lost a point too), but hey, a Swiss nailed the last point as a result, so it kinda makes up for it.  Way to go Buemi!   :good:
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Offline squ

Re: Schumacher Penalised
« Reply #9 on: May 16, 2010, 09:08:09 PM »
If it's a green flag, then it's a race. If webber stopped would everyone have to wait for him to move? And I'm a Ferrari fan!

Offline John S

Re: Schumacher Penalised
« Reply #10 on: May 16, 2010, 09:08:51 PM »

I think the stewards and the race director have made right asses of themselves, what is the point of pulling the S/C in to the pit lane if they are not going green. They are allowed to overtake after the safety car line so as long as the pass came after that line it should be good. Webber certainly thought they were going green or he wouldn't have bothered to back up the pack. This stinks of the high handed attitude that we all thought was gone since Max left the scene.

I certainly hope Schumi wins the appeal so it will be clear that pulling the S/C in means racing is resumed and everyone knows what to expect, it's the flim flam about how the rules mean different things  that turns people off the sport.





 
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Re: Schumacher Penalised
« Reply #11 on: May 16, 2010, 09:30:03 PM »

....MS will win the appeal....
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Offline cosworth151

Re: Schumacher Penalised
« Reply #12 on: May 16, 2010, 09:38:57 PM »
The flags might have been green, but Alonso's car was red, not Schumi's. Once again, when in doubt, hand it to Ferrari. 
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Offline Dare

Re: Schumacher Penalised
« Reply #13 on: May 16, 2010, 10:01:18 PM »

I think the stewards and the race director have made right asses of themselves, what is the point of pulling the S/C in to the pit lane if they are not going green. They are allowed to overtake after the safety car line so as long as the pass came after that line it should be good. Webber certainly thought they were going green or he wouldn't have bothered to back up the pack. This stinks of the high handed attitude that we all thought was gone since Max left the scene.

I certainly hope Schumi wins the appeal so it will be clear that pulling the S/C in means racing is resumed and everyone knows what to expect, it's the flim flam about how the rules mean different things  that turns people off the sport.



Well put John.Ross was pretty confident about the pass after
the race.He had all the documentation ready,even a picture
with the steering wheel green before the pass.I wonder
how much Damon being a steward figured in this





 
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Offline Scott

Re: Schumacher Penalised
« Reply #14 on: May 17, 2010, 07:56:20 AM »
Stupid rule, stupid stewards.  Race was over - why give an 80m passing opportunity?  Nobody knew what to do and Merc/Schumi just pushed it to see what will happen.  Doesn't make them look stupid, only the FIA (and maybe Alonso).
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