Roy Rogers Auction

[cosworth151]

If you grew up in the States between the 1940's and early 1960's, you remember Roy rogers and Dale Evans. Roy was The King of the Cowboy, who rode his trusty wonder horse Trigger. The were accompanied by Bullet, the Wonder Dog.

Roy and Dale died years ago. Now, there family has closed their museum and is auctioning off the contents. The item drawing the most interest?

Trigger, the Wonder Horse.   Stuffed.

So is Bullet.

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=128494396

Roy made over 100 movies and had a long running TV show. I went to the original museum, in California, back in the 90's. It was later moved to Branson, Missouri.

[lkjohnson1950]

Sadly today's kids are not interested in heroes like Roy Rogers. They've been exposed to too many "realistic" flawed heroes. Interest in him had dropped to the point that the museum could not support itself. I'm rather surprized that there is any interest in Trigger. Roy was right at the top of my childhood list, I watched every Saturday morning. The passing of an era.

Lonny

[cosworth151]

I went to the museum when it was in its original home in Apple Valley, California. One of my favorite parts was that Roy ha set up an entire room, with a brief film, dedicated to sidekicks. Gabby Hayes, Fuzzy St. John, Pat Brady, Andy Devine, Festus (Ken Curtis) and all the rest.

[Dare]

Trigger sold for$266,500 and Bullit for $35,000


For Lonnie and Cos,remember this Rogers song
from Smoky and the Bandit 2

http://www.popjunkie.com/mp3s/bandit2/SmokeyAndTheBandit2-04RideConcreteCowboyRide.mp3


Remember Lawman,Rifleman,Bonanza,etc?where have
the westerns gone to

[lkjohnson1950]

Thanks Dare! Those old westerns were really morality plays. The good guys like Roy would rather die than do anything bad or dishonorable. Nobody believes in people like that anymore. Too bad. We're the worse for it.

Lonny

[John S]

Remember Lawman,Rifleman,Bonanza,etc?where have
the westerns gone to

In the US you are having to live down your Imperialist & racist past deeds against the indigenous native tribes (cor that's a mouthful ain't it), just as we in the UK have to do for our conquests around the world. An awful lot of the old style westerns featured hostile or downtrodden Injuns in some way, now a no-no I should think unless you stick ridgedly to historical fact.

[cosworth151]

Many of the classic westerns were also updated versions of the knight-errant tales. The hero would ride into town, rescue the good, punish the evil and move on. The Lone Ranger, Cheyenne, Bronco, Paladin (Have Gun, Will Travel) and even Jim West and Artemus Gordon were of this type.

These same stories were later updated again, with cars (or motorcycles) replacing the horses. Route 66, Then Came Bronson, Movin' On, Knight Rider and The A Team are examples.

Peter Fonda and Dennis Hopper meant for Easy Rider to be a western. Their characters names were Wyatt and Billy. Peter Fonda even wears spurs on his cycle boots.

[Jericoke]

Many of the classic westerns were also updated versions of the knight-errant tales. The hero would ride into town, rescue the good, punish the evil and move on. The Lone Ranger, Cheyenne, Bronco, Paladin (Have Gun, Will Travel) and even Jim West and Artemus Gordon were of this type.

These same stories were later updated again, with cars (or motorcycles) replacing the horses. Route 66, Then Came Bronson, Movin' On, Knight Rider and The A Team are examples.

Peter Fonda and Dennis Hopper meant for Easy Rider to be a western. Their characters names were Wyatt and Billy. Peter Fonda even wears spurs on his cycle boots.

Which have now been supplanted by the likes of Batman, Spider-Man and Iron Man.  (Hey, Iron Man even has a suit of armour.)

[cosworth151]

They'd be more along the lines of Gunsmoke or Bonanza. Matt Dillon was always in Dodge City, Batman's always in Gotham City. I was thinking more of the stranger who arrives, makes things right and leaves.

Maybe more of a James Bond.

[Dare]

Remember Lawman,Rifleman,Bonanza,etc?where have
the westerns gone to

In the US you are having to live down your Imperialist & racist past deeds against the indigenous native tribes (cor that's a mouthful ain't it), just as we in the UK have to do for our conquests around the world. An awful lot of the old style westerns featured hostile or downtrodden Injuns in some way, now a no-no I should think unless you stick ridgedly to historical fact.

In the late 50's there was a tv series about confederate
raider Col Mosby called the Gray Ghost[I'm sure Cos
and Lonnie remember it]it was a big hit with the viewer
but showed the south in a favorable view,lost its sponsors
and was cancelled.

This nation has always been a little uncomfortable about
certain subjects and doesn't like to be reminded of our sordid past

[lkjohnson1950]

it has become politically correct to say that the civil war was all about slavery and that the Confederate Flag is a racist symbol. If it were possible to talk to Rebels I think you would find they had a variety of reasons for fighting. Most of the foot soldiers were not slave holders. Whatever the motivation was it took monster courage to stand up at Gettysburg and charge uphill half a mile or so with 50 caliber guns blazing away at you. My hats off to vets on either side.

Lonny

[Dare]

Slavery was a small reason for the Civil War.One
major reason was the right of the southern states to succeed
from the US.

On a happier note It must have took a special breed person to
leave the east and travel by wagon train to a
uncertain future of the west.My hat is off to them.

[cosworth151]

But the reason they wanted to secede was to keep slavery. That's why only the slave states seceded.

I agree about the pioneers. Pulling up stakes and moving into an unknown wilderness took a special kind of courage.

[Jericoke]

But the reason they wanted to secede was to keep slavery. That's why only the slave states seceded.

I agree about the pioneers. Pulling up stakes and moving into an unknown wilderness took a special kind of courage.

I learned quite a lot about this when visiting Washington earlier this year.  It wasn't the act of owning people they wished to preserve, but rather the value of production:  the entire stock of slaves was worth BILLIONS of dollars, in 1850s money... that is to say the population of slaves had more monetary value than the rest of the assets in the USA together.  The slave states were angry at the prospect of having to give up their investment without fair compensation.

(Not to suggest they were right... but just put things in a new perspective for me)

[lkjohnson1950]

Wow Jeri! I've spent a lot of time studying the Civil War, and I confess I never considered the financial aspects of freeing the slaves. Thanks.

Lonny