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Author Topic: heros and zeros at Singapore  (Read 9652 times)

Offline Cam

Re: heros and zeros at Singapore
« Reply #30 on: October 16, 2010, 09:20:14 AM »
Both of them could have easily avoided the incident so I dont see how that becomes a criteria for determining fault.

Sure, Webber could have avoided it by not competing, but he did compete and did so with an exceptional piece of driving.  He was holding his line very comfortably, and Hamilton turned in on him.

Hamilton could have avoided it by driving better, giving Webber a few more inches and he would have come out ahead anyway.

So what would you prefer, not competing or better driving?

As for describing Webber as always letting the red mist get the better of him, I have no idea where that comes from, especially when you look at the track record of three of the four drivers he is competing with this year, compared to them the guy is a saint.
I am a lover of what is, not because I'm a spiritual person, but because it hurts when I argue with reality - Byron Katie

Offline Monty

Re: heros and zeros at Singapore
« Reply #31 on: October 18, 2010, 09:15:18 AM »
I'm guessing you are perhaps a Webber fan. I don't favour either of them.
My comments are simply observations. Mark has a history of letting the red mist get the better of him and by 'competing' he could easily of thrown this race away.
Hamilton was clearly in front. He would have no idea of where Webbers car would be and had no choice but to turn in (you sort of go straight on and crash if you don't turn in :DD)

Offline Scott

Re: heros and zeros at Singapore
« Reply #32 on: October 18, 2010, 10:09:26 AM »
I've found Webber to be over his 'red mist' moments this year (which is why I have become a fan of his).  He's raced far more maturely than Hamilton or Vettel.  If Hamilton really had no idea where Webber was (after just losing sight of him on the inside of the corner entry), then it would have been even more important for him to have made a cautious turn rather than diving for the apex.  There is plenty of room for two cars to make it through that corner as had been shown by other drivers during the race - Hamilton could have exited the corner leading Webber rather than finishing his race there with a helmet full of 'red mist'.
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Offline lkjohnson1950

Re: heros and zeros at Singapore
« Reply #33 on: October 19, 2010, 03:04:40 AM »
It's easy to criticise after the fact. Both drivers had a fraction of a second to make a decision, both chose poorly. As I said, from what I was taught by the SCCA, they would have placed the blame on Hamilton, but I think this was basically a true "racing incident".

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Offline Cam

Re: heros and zeros at Singapore
« Reply #34 on: October 19, 2010, 12:46:30 PM »
I'm guessing you are perhaps a Webber fan. I don't favour either of them.

For the record, no, not particularly a Webber fan.
I am a lover of what is, not because I'm a spiritual person, but because it hurts when I argue with reality - Byron Katie

 


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