collapse

* Welcome

Welcome to GPWizard F1 Forum!

GPWizard is the friendliest F1 forum you'll find anywhere. You have a host of new like-minded friends waiting to welcome you.

So what are you waiting for? Becoming a member is easy and free! Take a couple seconds out of your day and register now. We guarantee, you wont be sorry you did.

Click Here to become a full Member for Free

* User Info

 
 
Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.
Did you miss your activation email?

* Newsletter

GPWizard F1 Forum Newsletter Email address:
Weekly
Fortnightly
Monthly

* Grid Game Deadlines

Qualifying

Race

* Shoutbox

Refresh History
  • Wizzo: :good:
    March 05, 2024, 11:44:46 PM
  • Dare: my chat button is onthe bottom rightWiz
    March 03, 2024, 11:58:24 PM
  • Wizzo: Yes you should see the chat room button at the bottom left of your screen
    March 02, 2024, 11:39:55 PM
  • Open Wheel: Is there a Chat room button or something to access “Race day conversation”
    March 02, 2024, 02:46:02 PM
  • Wizzo: The 2024 Grid Game is here!  :yahoo:
    January 30, 2024, 01:42:23 PM
  • Wizzo: Hey everybody - the shout box is back!  :D
    August 21, 2023, 12:18:19 PM

* Who's Online

  • Dot Guests: 474
  • Dot Hidden: 0
  • Dot Users: 0

There aren't any users online.

* Top Posters

cosworth151 cosworth151
16158 Posts
Scott Scott
14057 Posts
Dare Dare
12990 Posts
John S John S
11274 Posts
Ian Ian
9729 Posts
« previous next »
Pages: [1]   Go Down

Author Topic: First Look at the E21  (Read 5018 times)

Offline cosworth151

First Look at the E21
« on: January 28, 2013, 07:28:14 PM »
I'm watching the debut of the new Lotus E21. The platypus lives! It still has the bend in the nose. They said the the panel to cover it up would weigh a few gram, so they left it off.
Logged


“You can search the world over for the finer things, but you won't find a match for the American road and the creatures that live on it.”
― Bob Dylan

Williamsfan

  • Guest
Re: First Look at the E21
« Reply #1 on: January 28, 2013, 08:01:05 PM »
No way they could have just not had the tilted bit in it and had a flat nose like McLaren then!?  Disappointing to see Lotus have stuck with it really.
Logged

Offline cosworth151

Re: First Look at the E21
« Reply #2 on: January 28, 2013, 08:07:30 PM »
Logged
“You can search the world over for the finer things, but you won't find a match for the American road and the creatures that live on it.”
― Bob Dylan

Offline Scott

Re: First Look at the E21
« Reply #3 on: January 28, 2013, 09:13:56 PM »
I thought the step nose was out this year?  :DntKnw:
Logged
The Honey Badger doesn't give a...

Offline John S

  • F1 Legend
  • ****
  • Date Registered: Jan 2007
  • Location: Lincolnshire, UK
  • Posts: 11274
  • 11550 credits
  • View Inventory
  • Send Money To John S
  • Max for 3rd title! - to see more Toto apoplexy.
Re: First Look at the E21
« Reply #4 on: January 28, 2013, 09:27:58 PM »
Quote from: scott on January 28, 2013, 09:13:56 PM
I thought the step nose was out this year?  :DntKnw:

Another FIA c*ck up, ::) the regs allow teams to put a cosmetic fix on the cars but there is no compulsion.  :crazy:  

It appears both the added weight (minimal to most minds but not to F1 tech heads) and the cost (carbon fibre's not a cheap material even to better off mid fielders) will keep stepped conks on the grid.  ::)

Perhaps we should be asking just who was responsible for drafting the section of the regs covering step noses?  - It's obviously the same person, or persons, who allow Adrian the scope to drive a coach and horses through the regs every year.  :D





Logged
Racing is Life - everything else is just....waiting. (Steve McQueen)

Offline lkjohnson1950

Re: First Look at the E21
« Reply #5 on: January 29, 2013, 06:19:08 AM »
Matt Le Blanc talks to Kimi about the new car:

Logged
Lonny

vintly

  • Guest
Re: First Look at the E21
« Reply #6 on: January 29, 2013, 09:27:18 AM »
Quote from: John S on January 28, 2013, 09:27:58 PM
It's obviously the same person, or persons, who allow Adrian the scope to drive a coach and horses through the regs every year.  :D

If I may be so bold, I'd say that Adrian Newey drives around the regs, not through them, and a good bit of horsemanship it is too. God help us if no one questions rules or pushes boundaries.

Back to the stepped nose, I agree it's hardly pretty, but I admire that Lotus haven't been swayed by cosmetics. That's maybe where McLaren have been going wrong...
Logged

Offline John S

  • F1 Legend
  • ****
  • Date Registered: Jan 2007
  • Location: Lincolnshire, UK
  • Posts: 11274
  • 11550 credits
  • View Inventory
  • Send Money To John S
  • Max for 3rd title! - to see more Toto apoplexy.
Re: First Look at the E21
« Reply #7 on: January 29, 2013, 09:37:35 AM »
Quote from: vintly on January 29, 2013, 09:27:18 AM
Quote from: John S on January 28, 2013, 09:27:58 PM
It's obviously the same person, or persons, who allow Adrian the scope to drive a coach and horses through the regs every year.  :D

If I may be so bold, I'd say that Adrian Newey drives around the regs, not through them, and a good bit of horsemanship it is too. God help us if no one questions rules or pushes boundaries.

Back to the stepped nose, I agree it's hardly pretty, but I admire that Lotus haven't been swayed by cosmetics. That's maybe where McLaren have been going wrong...


Well said that man!  :good: ....... apart from the Macca bit that is.  :P

My comment was tongue in cheek, but if step noses are really deemed ugly and undesirable why not outlaw them officially? This half hearted approach from the governing body seems plain daft.  ::)

Oh, and James Allison is quoted by Planetf1.com as saying Lotus will only add a modesty panel to their E21 if they "find one that develops downforce"...   ;) :D

« Last Edit: January 29, 2013, 09:43:27 AM by John S »
Logged
Racing is Life - everything else is just....waiting. (Steve McQueen)

Offline F1fanaticBD

Re: First Look at the E21
« Reply #8 on: January 29, 2013, 01:57:09 PM »
Lotus apparently made a multi million dollar sponsor deal with a energy drink company Burn, and they said it will be flame styled livery? Where is it? I was so much looking forward for that.  :'(
« Last Edit: January 29, 2013, 02:40:42 PM by F1fanaticBD »
Logged
Keep running the fast cars, you will be never out of girls

vintly

  • Guest
Re: First Look at the E21
« Reply #9 on: January 29, 2013, 05:07:32 PM »
Quote from: F1fanaticBD on January 29, 2013, 01:57:09 PM
Lotus apparently made a multi million dollar sponsor deal with a energy drink company Burn, and they said it will be flame styled livery? Where is it? I was so much looking forward for that.  :'(

I think Roman and Kimi had flames on their race suits, but only on the lower half of their legs.. might be worth checking that. I agree woulda been nice to see flames on the cars!
Logged

Offline John S

  • F1 Legend
  • ****
  • Date Registered: Jan 2007
  • Location: Lincolnshire, UK
  • Posts: 11274
  • 11550 credits
  • View Inventory
  • Send Money To John S
  • Max for 3rd title! - to see more Toto apoplexy.
Re: First Look at the E21
« Reply #10 on: January 29, 2013, 07:34:50 PM »

I Think there is some kinda lame flame effect going on at the front end, the Burn logos seem to be only on the front wings and the inner sections of the wing are in the Burn corporate colours of yellow and red.

Perhaps Coca Cola have not stumped up enough cash to have more of the livery painted in their flaming colours.

 
Logged
Racing is Life - everything else is just....waiting. (Steve McQueen)

Offline Irisado

Re: First Look at the E21
« Reply #11 on: January 29, 2013, 09:38:07 PM »
The team expect to challenge for regular wins with this car apparently.  I have my doubts.  It looks tidy enough, but for once I agree with Raikkonen when he said that they'll struggle to do any better than they did in 2012.
Logged
Soñando con una playa donde brilla el sol, un arco iris ilumina el cielo, y el mar espejea iridescentemente

vintly

  • Guest
Re: First Look at the E21
« Reply #12 on: February 06, 2013, 08:46:44 AM »
Nice comparison of this and last year's Lotus:

http://twitter.com/WilliamEslerF1/status/296620618919596032/photo/1
Logged

Offline F1fanaticBD

Re: First Look at the E21
« Reply #13 on: February 06, 2013, 06:15:48 PM »
Logged
Keep running the fast cars, you will be never out of girls

Offline Scott

Re: First Look at the E21
« Reply #14 on: February 07, 2013, 08:19:14 PM »
I'm sorry they're dropping the black and gold livery.  I liked it a lot more.
Logged
The Honey Badger doesn't give a...
Pages: [1]   Go Up
« previous next »
 

SimplePortal 2.3.6 © 2008-2014, SimplePortal
Menu Editor Pro 1.0 | Copyright 2013, Matthew Kerle