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Author Topic: Massa's Practise Crash  (Read 6674 times)

Offline Alonsofan

Massa's Practise Crash
« on: May 25, 2013, 03:19:57 PM »
I didn't see practise but I did see a quick glimpse of Massa's crash. Looked a nasty one, was something wrong with his car??



Offline cosworth151

Re: Massa's Practise Crash
« Reply #1 on: May 25, 2013, 03:33:18 PM »
He locked up & went into the barrier at Sainte Devote. They had to replace the gearbox. I don't know if the box caused the shunt or was damaged as a result of it. The car wasn't ready for quali, so the 5 place grid ding for the replacement is moot. Massa will start from the pits.
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Offline Scott

Re: Massa's Practise Crash
« Reply #2 on: May 25, 2013, 03:36:35 PM »
Ferrari attributed it to driver error, no mechanical problem.  He locked up the wheels over the bumps at the end of the tunnel and Voila - kiss the wall, then kiss the barrier (they noted that it has been moved even further back, so there is enough time to bleed off some speed if a driver gets in trouble.  I wonder if they had to give up some bleachers to do that?).

Sorry for Massa, Ferrari looks like it has good pace this weekend.
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Offline cosworth151

Re: Massa's Practise Crash
« Reply #3 on: May 25, 2013, 03:40:44 PM »
Here it is. Look quickly before Bernie's boys pull it down.

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Offline Dare

Re: Massa's Practise Crash
« Reply #4 on: May 25, 2013, 03:44:35 PM »
hope this isn't the same as yours Cos,Bernie might
miss one of them

Mark Twain once opined, "it's easier to con someone than to convince them they've been conned."

Offline Scott

Re: Massa's Practise Crash
« Reply #5 on: May 25, 2013, 03:45:32 PM »
Oh, I understood it happened at the end of the tunnel - oops.
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Offline Alonsofan

Re: Massa's Practise Crash
« Reply #6 on: May 25, 2013, 03:49:52 PM »
Thanks for the link and the info guys. I guess that is the challenge of Monaco, one slip and oops.
I managed to view them before Bernie ;)

Offline F1fanaticBD

Re: Massa's Practise Crash
« Reply #7 on: May 26, 2013, 05:02:51 AM »
Romain crashed their twice, in FP1 & FP3, almost missed the quali as he crashed his car late in FP3. It took a tremendous effort from the Lotus engineer to shoot him in the Q1. He was unlucky not have made it to the Q3.

Although the Ferrari is saying it is due to driver's error, but many people are pointing out that there may be stuck throttle as the video showed only locking of the front, but given the circumstance, it should have been four wheel locking. Grid penalty seems irrelevant as he never made it out of the pits, but I guess if Romain or any other driver were forced to the same, the penalty would have meant he would have to start from the back.
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Offline lkjohnson1950

Re: Massa's Practise Crash
« Reply #8 on: May 26, 2013, 05:29:24 PM »
Ferrari's #2 drivers rarely have a car problem, it is nearly always "driver error".  ;)
Lonny

Offline F1fanaticBD

Re: Massa's Practise Crash
« Reply #9 on: May 26, 2013, 07:01:16 PM »
Just to prove the doubter like me & Lonny, Massa repeated the crash in the race as well, in this time he managed to hurt his neck as well. So you see we are so wrong about it yesterday, it is definitely "Driver's Error"  ::)
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Offline Alonsofan

Re: Massa's Practise Crash
« Reply #10 on: May 26, 2013, 07:17:52 PM »
Poor old Felipe  :(
Just not his weekend.....or Ferrari's  :(

Offline lkjohnson1950

Re: Massa's Practise Crash
« Reply #11 on: May 26, 2013, 10:12:30 PM »
I think this may reinforce the idea that it was not driver error. Even if Felipe is not quite the driver he used to be, it's hard for me to believe he made identical errors on 2 consecutive days.
Lonny

Offline F1fanaticBD

Re: Massa's Practise Crash
« Reply #12 on: May 27, 2013, 04:09:07 AM »
I think this may reinforce the idea that it was not driver error. Even if Felipe is not quite the driver he used to be, it's hard for me to believe he made identical errors on 2 consecutive days.

Come on Lonny, the poor chap Felipe hurt his neck, banged his car in Ste Devote just to prove to you that it is "Driver's error", have mercy on him. :D
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Offline Dare

Re: Massa's Practise Crash
« Reply #13 on: May 27, 2013, 04:13:08 AM »
I may be wrong but I think I heard Massa say there's
a little bump in the track that  he was hitting just as
he applied his brakes causing them to lock up.Anyone else
here it on the broadcast?
Mark Twain once opined, "it's easier to con someone than to convince them they've been conned."

Offline Scott

Re: Massa's Practise Crash
« Reply #14 on: May 27, 2013, 07:15:40 AM »
I wondered if there isn't a funky slope in that part of the road that lifts one of his front wheels or lightens it enough to easily lock up and lose it. 

But still, that's what a driver needs to learn - change your line, your braking point, or whatever.  Most importantly, learn a bit of winter driving skills - lock, lift, turn.  Works almost every time.
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