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Author Topic: Enjoy lap from 2014 Mercesdes F1 V6  (Read 8874 times)

Offline Monty

Re: Enjoy lap from 2014 Mercesdes F1 V6
« Reply #30 on: August 15, 2013, 12:49:31 PM »
Well I'm glad Cos agrees with me that turbo-diesels sound awful but I'm not sure I accept that all turbos sound bad. An unsilenced turbo petrol engine can still sound fantastic. For pure aural pleasure I have to accept that a normally aspirated F1 car is hard to beat (although a supercharged V8 running on Nitro is the benchmark) but I still think 20plus unsilenced V6 turbos will still sound awesome.
My big fear is the enforcement of silencers (already happening in some lower classes) or worse ..... Formula E  :nono:

Offline F1fanaticBD

Re: Enjoy lap from 2014 Mercesdes F1 V6
« Reply #31 on: August 15, 2013, 06:07:07 PM »

More to the point is that F1 claims to be the pinnacle of motor sports, WEC doesn't.

Does being the pinnacle of Motorsports means that how loud you could make sound? I think pinnacle of the motorsports means pushing the limit so that innovations could be made. If you get stuck with the noise, and don't let the possibilities of innovation excel, then my dear friend you are the one who is impending it from becoming the pinnacle of sports.

Cos if you see todays Hypercars, engine specification you will be able to see that most of them (Ferrari LaFerrari, McLaren P1, Porsche 918) all hybrids. Yes none of them are turbo, I agree but pushing them into Turbo will open tons of way to exploit and harness power with small displacement engine. Why should we stop that for the sake of noise??
Keep running the fast cars, you will be never out of girls

Online cosworth151

Re: Enjoy lap from 2014 Mercesdes F1 V6
« Reply #32 on: August 15, 2013, 09:34:01 PM »
There are many reasons why those cars, and many other supercars (like the Shelby GT500) don't use turbos. The dreaded turbo lag, the grenade like life span of turbo engines and, of course, the pathetic sound. If they want all of the advantages of forced induction, without all of the drawbacks, they go with superchargers (again, like the Shelby GT500).

“You can search the world over for the finer things, but you won't find a match for the American road and the creatures that live on it.”
― Bob Dylan

Offline Ian

Re: Enjoy lap from 2014 Mercesdes F1 V6
« Reply #33 on: August 15, 2013, 09:41:47 PM »
Cos, be a real pal and ship me one over, what a car,  :yahoo:  :good:  :good:
An aircraft landing is just a controlled crash.

Offline lkjohnson1950

Re: Enjoy lap from 2014 Mercesdes F1 V6
« Reply #34 on: August 16, 2013, 03:18:57 AM »
Interesting that nearly every speed record at IMS is held by a Cosworth turbo, Chevy turbo, or Mercedes turbo.
Lonny

Offline F1fanaticBD

Re: Enjoy lap from 2014 Mercesdes F1 V6
« Reply #35 on: August 16, 2013, 07:16:19 AM »
Unfair Cossie, you put up a Ford GT 500 with a Shelby badge, with that snake emblem, and it produces 750 bhp in front of me and wants me to argue about 1.6 litre muffled turbo?? Do you know how much time I need to recover from the day-dream of driving this beauty crazy along the mountains of Montana? Unfair Cossie simply unfair  |-( |-(
I am still drooling like Ian after he had watched, well we know it very well  ;)
Keep running the fast cars, you will be never out of girls

Online cosworth151

Re: Enjoy lap from 2014 Mercesdes F1 V6
« Reply #36 on: August 16, 2013, 12:10:03 PM »
Of all the great things that Tony has done, ridding Indy of turbos is the only thing that equals returning F1 to this country. It ranks with St. Patrick banishing the snakes from Ireland. The main thing that turbos did for Indy racing was stampede fans away to NASCAR. About the only good thing to say about that sad era was that at least they were still V8s.

I wonder if the France family had a hand in the current turbo infestation.  ;)
“You can search the world over for the finer things, but you won't find a match for the American road and the creatures that live on it.”
― Bob Dylan

Offline Monty

Re: Enjoy lap from 2014 Mercesdes F1 V6
« Reply #37 on: August 16, 2013, 03:01:02 PM »
OK enough arguing about if a turbo can sound good. Here is proof:-



Offline Ian

Re: Enjoy lap from 2014 Mercesdes F1 V6
« Reply #38 on: August 16, 2013, 03:33:21 PM »
Sounded pretty good to me Monty.  :good:
An aircraft landing is just a controlled crash.

Online cosworth151

Re: Enjoy lap from 2014 Mercesdes F1 V6
« Reply #39 on: August 16, 2013, 03:56:17 PM »
I thought it sounded a bit tinny & shallow, especially compared to the Shelby. Remember, the F1 turbos will have half that many cylinders, be much smaller & rev limited.  :lazy:
“You can search the world over for the finer things, but you won't find a match for the American road and the creatures that live on it.”
― Bob Dylan

Offline Monty

Re: Enjoy lap from 2014 Mercesdes F1 V6
« Reply #40 on: August 16, 2013, 04:45:21 PM »
I didn't say it was better than the Shelby (if I could afford the Hennesey or even a standard F458 - I would buy the Shelby and keep the extra $100k); I simply said that as a turbo it sounded good.
Noise is important to me. I own one of these:-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=icck_dUViIc

Actually mine is a lot louder than this one! No turbo (no ABS or traction control either).

Offline Ian

Re: Enjoy lap from 2014 Mercesdes F1 V6
« Reply #41 on: August 16, 2013, 05:41:32 PM »
Niiiccee set of wheels monty.  :good:  :good:  :good:
An aircraft landing is just a controlled crash.

Offline F1fanaticBD

Re: Enjoy lap from 2014 Mercesdes F1 V6
« Reply #42 on: August 16, 2013, 09:57:10 PM »
Nice ride monty  :good: :good: :good: :good:
Keep running the fast cars, you will be never out of girls

Online cosworth151

Re: Enjoy lap from 2014 Mercesdes F1 V6
« Reply #43 on: August 17, 2013, 01:43:50 AM »
Outstanding ride, Monty!  :yahoo:  :good:
“You can search the world over for the finer things, but you won't find a match for the American road and the creatures that live on it.”
― Bob Dylan

Offline lkjohnson1950

Re: Enjoy lap from 2014 Mercesdes F1 V6
« Reply #44 on: August 17, 2013, 04:22:16 AM »
Indy was America's premier race thru the DFX era. It went down hill when Tony insisted on flat bottom chassis and N/A V8s and the owners said no. neither side was smart enough to compromise and Indycar died. Tony was a big part of that with his my way or the highway attitude.
Lonny

 


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