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Author Topic: Red Bull Theatens to Quit  (Read 2883 times)

Offline cosworth151

Red Bull Theatens to Quit
« on: March 17, 2015, 11:30:11 AM »
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  • Drinks maker red Bull it threatening to leave F1 if Renault can't tweak their under performing engine.

    "They're using last year's wings," marveled Christian Horner. "Our new chassis is half a second better than the last year.
     
    "The difference is the engine," he insisted.

    Maybe they'd like a NASCAR/TUSC style Balance Of Performance.

    http://autoweek.com/article/formula-one/red-bull-threatens-leave-formula-one
    « Last Edit: March 17, 2015, 01:32:17 PM by cosworth151 »


    “You can search the world over for the finer things, but you won't find a match for the American road and the creatures that live on it.”
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    Offline Irisado

    Re: Red Buyll Theatens to Quit
    « Reply #1 on: March 17, 2015, 01:13:36 PM »
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  • So, they threaten to quit when they're not winning?  That's really rather immature.  Lots of top teams go through cycles of not winning, and have to find a way to bounce back to the front.  Red Bull needs to think about that before making rather daft comments about quitting.
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    Offline J.Clark

    Re: Red Bull Theatens to Quit
    « Reply #2 on: March 17, 2015, 01:36:42 PM »
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  • Seems to me they are tossing the binky out of the pram, like a 2-year-old who isn't getting to watch the TV program he/she wants.

    Sauber turned it around with no where near the budget of RBR.

    No body made them stick it out with Renault, which seems to be at the heart of the problem.

    McLaren isn't whining over their woes . . .
    Life is short - live each day to the fullest.

    Offline Alianora La Canta

    Re: Red Bull Theatens to Quit
    « Reply #3 on: March 17, 2015, 02:19:55 PM »
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  • They're threatening to quit because they think they've been saddled with a useless engine for the next 6 years - something Christian knows the board won't tolerate. It's less a question of whether Christian will make the team quit and more "the board is asking questions I can't answer".
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    Online lkjohnson1950

    Re: Red Bull Theatens to Quit
    « Reply #4 on: March 17, 2015, 03:34:33 PM »
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  • Dieter has walked away from other sports, including shutting down the Red Bull NASCAR team when it wasn't winning.
    Lonny

    Offline Ian

    Re: Red Bull Theatens to Quit
    « Reply #5 on: March 17, 2015, 05:10:54 PM »
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  • Didn't hear Horner whinging when Vettel was winning year after year.
    An aircraft landing is just a controlled crash.

    Offline Jericoke

    Re: Red Bull Theatens to Quit
    « Reply #6 on: March 17, 2015, 06:03:57 PM »
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  • Red Bull expects a return on investment.

    Being a scrappy F1 team is good for business

    Being a championship f1 team is good for business

    Being a winning F1 team is good for business

    Being a washed up F1 team isn't.

    It's up to them to reframe the team as something else until they can get back into one of the first 3 categories.

    Offline F1fanaticBD

    Re: Red Bull Theatens to Quit
    « Reply #7 on: March 17, 2015, 06:16:07 PM »
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  • Actually the Red Bull is asking Mercedes to stop treating the drivers equally and pick a driver with Mark Webber effects. I think that is the definition of their equalization.

    What a pathetic sore loser if the above statement not true, because when they were winning 13 races with one driver in a season, 4 straight doubles, didn't the other teams felt the same, but instead of making such pathetic comments, they kept of fighting.

    If Red Bull think they will always the winner, its best for the both parties that they leave the sports.
    Keep running the fast cars, you will be never out of girls

    Offline Scott

    Re: Red Bull Theatens to Quit
    « Reply #8 on: March 17, 2015, 08:45:26 PM »
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  • The engine regulations are a problem, a big problem.  If a team has a dog of a car, they can spend whatever they have to fix that problem.  The engine, no chance.  You blew the design, you are stuck with the crappola engine, and that's life. 

    You think because Coke brought out 'New Coke' that they should be forced to keep it for 5 years before they have any chance of correcting it?  No, of course not, they should be able to bring out Coke Classic in a matter of weeks and not lose their shirt.  Such a ridiculous business practice would ruin a company, and Red Bull and Lotus are looking at serious issues if they are forced to run a dog engine for 5 years.

    Before the stupid Turbo, teams could develop their engines to bring them up to snuff.  Some could afford to, and knew how to, others didn't.  The dominance of RBR was mostly due to Newey, not an FIA regulation.  Even if Newey made a mistake, he could change it right away during testing or during the first couple of races.  No chance with the engines.

    I don't think RBR should leave the sport over it, but I think FOM/FIA and the teams need to sort out a way to make the engines competitive. 
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    Offline Dare

    Re: Red Bull Theatens to Quit
    « Reply #9 on: March 17, 2015, 10:07:00 PM »
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  • Didn't hear Horner whinging when Vettel was winning year after year.


    My thoughts too Ian and I agree that just because you
    have a bad engine you shouldn't be stuck with it....
    In the real world let's say you get a bad wife,now should
    you be forced to stick with her?Should be the same with
    a bad engine ;)
    "The
    democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those
    who are
    willing to work and give to those who would not."
    --
    Thomas
    Jefferson

    Offline Ian

    Re: Red Bull Theatens to Quit
    « Reply #10 on: March 17, 2015, 10:09:13 PM »
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  • Can't comment on that Dare, sometimes someone is looking over my shoulder.  ::)
    An aircraft landing is just a controlled crash.

    Offline Dare

    Re: Red Bull Theatens to Quit
    « Reply #11 on: March 18, 2015, 12:35:47 AM »
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  • Can't comment on that Dare, sometimes someone is looking over my shoulder.  ::)

    Now you know I wasn't counting your sweet little lady
    in my comments Ian ;)
    "The
    democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those
    who are
    willing to work and give to those who would not."
    --
    Thomas
    Jefferson

    Offline Ian

    Re: Red Bull Theatens to Quit
    « Reply #12 on: March 18, 2015, 07:28:26 AM »
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  • 'Sweet ?'  :DD  :DD  :DD
    An aircraft landing is just a controlled crash.

    Online John S

    Re: Red Bull Theatens to Quit
    « Reply #13 on: March 18, 2015, 10:10:53 AM »
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  • Don't know about wives Dare, but Red Bull are free to divorce Renault anytime. ;)

    I'm sure Cosworth could cobble together a power unit that runs as good as the Honda does at the moment.  :DD

    Just as a point of order Red Bull are not saying lets divorce they're asking for a boob job and a massive nip and tuck.......... good luck in selling that to a the wife.  :D
    Racing is life - everything else is just waiting. (Steve McQueen)

    Offline cosworth151

    Re: Red Bull Theatens to Quit
    « Reply #14 on: March 18, 2015, 11:27:11 AM »
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    In the real world let's say you get a bad wife,now should
    you be forced to stick with her?

    Absolutely not! Send her home to her husband at once!

    I thought Cosworth said it wasn't interested in V6 turbos.
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