Should there be penalties for when a car falls apart like Hulkenberg's?

[Scott]

Because they are many times more expensive than tractors.  The circuits aren't left with enough change from Bernie to afford cranes.  Plus Bernie probably doesn't want them spoiling the backdrop.

[Jericoke]

Because they are many times more expensive than tractors.  The circuits aren't left with enough change from Bernie to afford cranes.  Plus Bernie probably doesn't want them spoiling the backdrop.

You've been to the races... there are cranes everywhere.  They're just hooked up to TV cameras.  They could pull double duty.  Or even look into using the TV helicopters.  (I'm not really sure lifting an F1 car by helicopter is a good idea, but considering how deadly the truck solution has been, it can't be worse)

[Scott]

I'm all for putting enough cranes for full coverage of the circuits, but I think the responsibility should fall under the FIA/FOM, not the struggling circuit promoters.

[cosworth151]

Cranes might run afoul of overhead utility lines in the increasing number of street circuits.

[Jericoke]

Cranes might run afoul of overhead utility lines in the increasing number of street circuits.

If you can afford Bernie's fees, you can afford to bury your lines 

[Steve A.]

The 'cranes' used for the cameras at the races are just massive cherry pickers and can't loft an F1 car.

[Andy B]

The 'cranes' used for the cameras at the races are just massive cherry pickers and can't loft an F1 car.

Quite right DH1 cherry pickers would not pick a car up and it would only be road circuits in built up areas that overhead wires would be an issue. I'm sure if they can get cranes into Monaco where there are many cranes then more could be placed in high profile areas on other circuits. If you had a crane company it could give you a bit of advertising too.

Cranes are not the whole answer and I doubt there is just a single answer and cost is obviously an issue but there was talk of vehicles dedicated to recovering race cars which may mean cranes are cheaper?

Helicopters would be a non runner due to their instability in some weather conditions, the down draft could cause accidents and the potential of crashing into the crowd killing hundreds!

I doubt this will be resolved anytime soon unfortunately!

[lkjohnson1950]

Nascar and Indy car do it right. A dedicated safety team with vehicles and equipment that travels to each event and a yellow flag and safety car to allow a tilt bed to collect the car.

[John S]

Nascar and Indy car do it right. A dedicated safety team with vehicles and equipment that travels to each event and a yellow flag and safety car to allow a tilt bed to collect the car.

Slightly easier for them as they're mostly on the same land mass and can be road hauled each week, much harder to move a whole circus like that around the globe.

They'd probably need at least three sets of everything in F1, if not more, as ocean shipping times take much longer both in and out. Then of course there's the paperwork & safety checks some countries might insist on as they are commercial vehicles and will need to comply with every country's standards. 

I mean potentially they could be used for other purposes 
- if Bernie gets the chance of a nice little earner on the side - what do we think?       

[Scott]

Considering they probably run the NASCAR season for the same price as an F1 race, you would think F1 could afford 3, 4 or even 5 professional safety teams with equipment and vehicles. 

I'm sure Bernie or the FIA holding up a race contract until the paperwork gets sorted out would streamline things.

[Jericoke]

Considering they probably run the NASCAR season for the same price as an F1 race, you would think F1 could afford 3, 4 or even 5 professional safety teams with equipment and vehicles. 

I'm sure Bernie or the FIA holding up a race contract until the paperwork gets sorted out would streamline things.

Now is where we get into tricky international laws.

Can the FIA bring in their own people in place of 'hiring' locals?  I'm sure they could sort it out in the EU races (although from what I read about the EU... I wouldn't be surprised if they couldn't).

[cosworth151]

The NHRA has done the same since the early 1950's with their outstanding Safety Safari crew.

We know that the top people, like Charlie Whiting and Dr. Roberts (The FIA Medical Delegate) stay the same at all races. I'm sure Bernie could get any crew he wanted written into the contracts for the races.

[Jericoke]

The NHRA has done the same since the early 1950's with their outstanding Safety Safari crew.

We know that the top people, like Charlie Whiting and Dr. Roberts (The FIA Medical Delegate) stay the same at all races. I'm sure Bernie could get any crew he wanted written into the contracts for the races.

Yes he could.  And no he wouldn't.  If (heaven forbid) someone on Bernie's crew screwed up, that would put Bernie on the hook for any legal fall out.  The FIA SHOULD take legal responsibility for the safety of everyone at the track.  I presume that the FOM contract and the FIA contract are separate documents (even though they go hand in hand).

[Ian]

The FIA's disclaimer could the signs at every circuit warning people that motorsport can be dangerous.