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Author Topic: Massa announces F1 retirement  (Read 4666 times)

Offline Scott

Re: Massa announces F1 retirement
« Reply #15 on: September 05, 2016, 02:30:17 PM »
I thought Williams didn't really need sponsor drivers these days.  They can pay for talent, their accounts should be in order after the last two seasons TV money and Martini sponsorship.
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Offline Irisado

Re: Massa announces F1 retirement
« Reply #16 on: September 07, 2016, 08:50:50 PM »
Isn't their development driver, Lance Stroll, being considered as a possibility?
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Offline cosworth151

Re: Massa announces F1 retirement
« Reply #17 on: September 08, 2016, 12:17:32 PM »
Williams is in better financial shape than it has been in quite a while. On the other hand, they don't have anything near the funding of Mercedes, Ferrari or Red Bull. Since the current rules pretty well outlaw innovation in F1, the only way to go faster is to throw tons of money at the details to gain an extra hundredth of a second or two.
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Re: Massa announces F1 retirement
« Reply #18 on: September 08, 2016, 01:32:03 PM »
Williams is in better financial shape than it has been in quite a while. On the other hand, they don't have anything near the funding of Mercedes, Ferrari or Red Bull. Since the current rules pretty well outlaw innovation in F1, the only way to go faster is to throw tons of money at the details to gain an extra hundredth of a second or two.

And the days of a great driver  excelling in a not so great car
are long gone.

I never cared much for Massa but it seemed to me that
in most teams he drove for the other driver always got
the better of him.I will admit I would have liked to see
him win the WDC when he lost it on the last lap.Glock should
have gotten some nice xmas presents that year
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Offline cosworth151

Re: Massa announces F1 retirement
« Reply #19 on: September 09, 2016, 08:32:52 PM »
I found this on the F1 site. A nice tribute:

« Last Edit: September 09, 2016, 08:34:35 PM by cosworth151 »
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Re: Massa announces F1 retirement
« Reply #20 on: September 11, 2016, 12:04:12 PM »
Yeah good vid, thanks Cos. :good:   

Let's hope the memory of Felipe's career lasts longer than that of the Turkish GP. Damn, I really liked that race. :(   
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Offline Alianora La Canta

Re: Massa announces F1 retirement
« Reply #21 on: September 19, 2016, 07:31:13 PM »
Lance Stroll has a trainload of sponsor cash (as well as being talented, if crash-prone). With Bottas rumoured to want to leave Williams (in his case for Renault), Williams may need someone with experience to pair with Lance. (They have Alex Lynn, who's basically a less wealthy and more experienced version of Lance at this point).
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Offline Willy

Re: Massa announces F1 retirement
« Reply #22 on: September 28, 2016, 06:24:55 PM »
I always thought Massa should have retired when he had that horrible head injury a few years back.
Get out while you can.
There was a time when most drivers did not remain alive long enough to reach retirement.
We are very fortunate that the safety factors put in place in the last 30 years have allowed someone to get out alive after a long career.

Offline lkjohnson1950

Re: Massa announces F1 retirement
« Reply #23 on: September 28, 2016, 08:15:12 PM »
I can understand why he stayed after the injury. he wanted to know he could still do the job. After an injury you want to know how much damage was done; how much you may have lost.
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Online Jericoke

Re: Massa announces F1 retirement
« Reply #24 on: September 29, 2016, 01:56:10 AM »
I can understand why he stayed after the injury. he wanted to know he could still do the job. After an injury you want to know how much damage was done; how much you may have lost.

I never quite understood the 'going out on top' that a lot of athletes subscribe to.  If you want to drive an F1 car (or play football, baseball, whatever), and can find someone willing to pay for you to do it, then go for it.

For some people a legacy matters, but for me, I want to do what I like.  If I could be the 18th best F1 driver in the world, I'd take it in a heartbeat.

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Re: Massa announces F1 retirement
« Reply #25 on: September 30, 2016, 10:49:09 AM »

I never quite understood the 'going out on top' that a lot of athletes subscribe to.  If you want to drive an F1 car (or play football, baseball, whatever), and can find someone willing to pay for you to do it, then go for it.

For some people a legacy matters, but for me, I want to do what I like.  If I could be the 18th best F1 driver in the world, I'd take it in a heartbeat.

Like you Jeri, and I'm sure most of us, I'd also jump at the chance to be on the grid - even as the 25th best driver. ;)   :D   

IMHO this 'going out at the top' should really only be attributed to champions, or championship winning team members. There does seem to be something sad about the real cream of the crop staying too long - not sure Massa fits in this group though.

For me Schumi should have made way for another to join the grid rather than putting in less than middling performances at Mercedes, he can't have needed the money after all. Legends like JYS and Alain got it right as far as I'm concerned.   
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Offline cosworth151

Re: Massa announces F1 retirement
« Reply #26 on: September 30, 2016, 03:13:47 PM »
I can absolutely understand not wanting to retire. Many drivers at all levels have spent their entire lives wanting to become racers. For most, it's just a matter of running out of money & opportunities. there's an old saying: "I didn't quit racing, racing quit me."

This discussion makes me think of Richard Petty, the King of NASCAR. He dominated the series at the height of his career. For example, he won 27 of 49 Cup races in 1967, 21 of 48 in 1971. He won a total of 200 Cup series races in his career. David Pearson is second at a distant 105.

In his last 8 seasons, he had no wins and no poles. 5 wins & 0 poles in his last 11 years. Did he stay too long? Many fans remember him only as a back marker. Still, he remained one of the most popular drivers of the time. He is still the most NASCAR popular driver of all time.
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