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Author Topic: Star Trek Turns 50  (Read 10133 times)

Offline lkjohnson1950

Re: Star Trek Turns 50
« Reply #15 on: September 12, 2016, 05:24:37 PM »
Top 10 highest grossing movies: any great stories here?

1   Avatar   Fox   $2,788.0   $760.5   27.3%   $2,027.5   72.7%   2009^
2   Titanic   Par.   $2,186.8   $658.7   30.1%   $1,528.1   69.9%   1997^
3   Star Wars: The Force Awakens   BV   $2,068.2   $936.7   45.3%   $1,131.6   54.7%   2015
4   Jurassic World   Uni.   $1,670.4   $652.3   39.0%   $1,018.1   61.0%   2015
5   Marvel's The Avengers   BV   $1,519.6   $623.4   41.0%   $896.2   59.0%   2012
6   Furious 7   Uni.   $1,516.0   $353.0   23.3%   $1,163.0   76.7%   2015
7   Avengers: Age of Ultron   BV   $1,405.4   $459.0   32.7%   $946.4   67.3%   2015
8   Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows Part    2   WB   $1,341.5   $381.0   28.4%   $960.5   71.6%   2011
9   Frozen   BV   $1,276.5   $400.7   31.4%   $875.7   68.6%   2013
10   Iron Man 3   BV   $1,215.4   $409.0   33.7%   $806.4   66.3%   2013

From Box Office Mojo:    http://www.boxofficemojo.com/alltime/world/
Lonny

Offline cosworth151

Re: Star Trek Turns 50
« Reply #16 on: September 12, 2016, 07:15:39 PM »
I'd like to see a listing like that based on attendance volume rather than dollar volume. An night time adult ticket to my local theater is now $11. When I first had to pay adult price, it was 75 cents.
“You can search the world over for the finer things, but you won't find a match for the American road and the creatures that live on it.”
― Bob Dylan

Offline Jericoke

Re: Star Trek Turns 50
« Reply #17 on: September 12, 2016, 08:26:18 PM »
Top 10 highest grossing movies: any great stories here?

1   Avatar   Fox   $2,788.0   $760.5   27.3%   $2,027.5   72.7%   2009^
2   Titanic   Par.   $2,186.8   $658.7   30.1%   $1,528.1   69.9%   1997^
3   Star Wars: The Force Awakens   BV   $2,068.2   $936.7   45.3%   $1,131.6   54.7%   2015
4   Jurassic World   Uni.   $1,670.4   $652.3   39.0%   $1,018.1   61.0%   2015
5   Marvel's The Avengers   BV   $1,519.6   $623.4   41.0%   $896.2   59.0%   2012
6   Furious 7   Uni.   $1,516.0   $353.0   23.3%   $1,163.0   76.7%   2015
7   Avengers: Age of Ultron   BV   $1,405.4   $459.0   32.7%   $946.4   67.3%   2015
8   Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows Part    2   WB   $1,341.5   $381.0   28.4%   $960.5   71.6%   2011
9   Frozen   BV   $1,276.5   $400.7   31.4%   $875.7   68.6%   2013
10   Iron Man 3   BV   $1,215.4   $409.0   33.7%   $806.4   66.3%   2013

From Box Office Mojo:    http://www.boxofficemojo.com/alltime/world/

Movies and TV shows are very different media, and comparing them directly is like complaining that the Mona Lisa's bass riff doesn't compare to anything the Beatles ever recorded.

While the top movies generally tell simple stories, the top 10 aren't bereft of depth.  Many do explore important themes.  Avatar has messages about corporate greed, environmental harmony, scientific inquiry.  You won't find a single episode of Trek that covers that, even though there are plenty of episodes of Trek that cover the issues.

Titanic explores ideas of arrogance, class warfare and the difference between responsibilities and happiness.

I could go on.

The movies naturally focus on crowd pleasing spectacle because it pleases the crowds.  However, they don't become the biggest movies because of pure spectacle, there is more going on.  The movies that rely on spectacle alone aren't in the top 10.  It's a delicate balance between giving people what they want, and giving them something to think about.

It's not possible for an episode of Trek to match these movies in terms of pure entertainment, however, it's not possible for these movies to match the depth of Trek as a whole.

Apples to oranges, and it's okay to like one more than the other, but it's important to understand they're not the same.  (As a thought exercise, which 'Trek movies could most easily be adapted to a single TV episode?    Hint:  the odd ones.)

Offline Jericoke

Re: Star Trek Turns 50
« Reply #18 on: September 12, 2016, 08:28:46 PM »
I'd like to see a listing like that based on attendance volume rather than dollar volume. An night time adult ticket to my local theater is now $11. When I first had to pay adult price, it was 75 cents.

boxofficemojo.com does a pretty good job of estimating comparative grosses from different eras.

Offline cosworth151

Re: Star Trek Turns 50
« Reply #19 on: September 12, 2016, 08:41:26 PM »
Thanks, Jeri. I thought Gone with the Wind would be at the top of the list.
“You can search the world over for the finer things, but you won't find a match for the American road and the creatures that live on it.”
― Bob Dylan

Offline Scott

Re: Star Trek Turns 50
« Reply #20 on: September 12, 2016, 08:53:21 PM »
I'd like to see a listing like that based on attendance volume rather than dollar volume. An night time adult ticket to my local theater is now $11. When I first had to pay adult price, it was 75 cents.
$11?  Wow, I remember those days.  Try $17-20 depending on showing or tech (3D etc).  I go to maybe 2 movies a year now.  Used to go every couple of weeks.  In Canada (and probably the US) they have VIP theatres, which means they are licensed and no kids.  Kinda nice touch to have your drink and 'special' snacks delivered to your First Class seat with built in table...but you pay for that too.
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Offline Ian

Re: Star Trek Turns 50
« Reply #21 on: September 12, 2016, 09:52:35 PM »
Only seen one of those top ten, Avatar, graphics were ok but I thought the film itself was cr*p.
An aircraft landing is just a controlled crash.

Offline lkjohnson1950

Re: Star Trek Turns 50
« Reply #22 on: September 12, 2016, 09:54:37 PM »
It's true that some of the top 10 tackle issues, but none of them tell stories like "To Kill a Mockingbird", or "Twelve Angry Men". They don't tell a tale like the old Noir films "The Big Sleep" or "The Maltese Falcon". Cos, "Gone With the Wind was still near the top in 2012 but now they're counting worldwide gross and that cuts GWTW way down. Many films today make more money in foreign (sorry, I mean outside North America) markets than they do in the US.
Lonny

Offline Jericoke

Re: Star Trek Turns 50
« Reply #23 on: September 13, 2016, 03:04:53 PM »
It's true that some of the top 10 tackle issues, but none of them tell stories like "To Kill a Mockingbird", or "Twelve Angry Men". They don't tell a tale like the old Noir films "The Big Sleep" or "The Maltese Falcon". Cos, "Gone With the Wind was still near the top in 2012 but now they're counting worldwide gross and that cuts GWTW way down. Many films today make more money in foreign (sorry, I mean outside North America) markets than they do in the US.

That's true.  However, movies with deep, thought provoking stories are rarely as good as books with deep, thought provoking stories.  Not everyone wants spectacle, but for those who do, there's not much more spectacular than a big budget hollywood movie.  The top 10 ARE more substantial than your average fare, even if they aren't going to make you a better person for watching.

Of course, that's what makes Star Trek so special, it is elevated, providing a message, but maintains the veneer of spectacle to draw people in.  You can enjoy Kirk making out with green babes if you don't care for Spock and Bones debating the benefits of the few vs the many.

Offline cosworth151

Re: Star Trek Turns 50
« Reply #24 on: September 13, 2016, 03:38:38 PM »
I think ours might be that high on the week-ends, Scott. We just got a new indoor theater at the mall here. It has a Extra Price Super Ginormous Screen theater in it. The screen is almost as big as the old 1930's vintage downtown single screen theater we used to have.

They turned the old one in the mall into a megachurch.
“You can search the world over for the finer things, but you won't find a match for the American road and the creatures that live on it.”
― Bob Dylan

Offline Scott

Re: Star Trek Turns 50
« Reply #25 on: September 13, 2016, 08:38:42 PM »
I think ours might be that high on the week-ends, Scott. We just got a new indoor theater at the mall here. It has a Extra Price Super Ginormous Screen theater in it. The screen is almost as big as the old 1930's vintage downtown single screen theater we used to have.
  Crazy how that trend went.  Screens got so small until TV screens and home theatres exploded so people started having better screens at home and now they are winding them back up into...er, what they used to be.  :fool: :fool:

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They turned the old one in the mall into a megachurch.
  On the other side of the coin, there's a Mega Church in Toronto called the Meeting House that is utilizing theatre screens across the country to broadcast their Sunday services live.  Gives new life to Sunday mornings at the Cinema.   :crazy: :crazy:
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