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Offline Dare

Russian GP
« on: April 28, 2017, 12:46:28 AM »

Put this tgether in a rush so bear with me




3 GP's and 3 Mercedes wins on this Tilke circuit.Look for
Putin to make his usual race appearance.

1) Origins
The first Russian Grand Prix was technically held in 1913 in Saint Petersburg and won by Georgy Suvorin. It was abandoned by the outbreak of World War 1, and was never restarted.

2) Wins
In the ‘modern era’ of Formula One, Lewis Hamilton has been the only winner in both 2014 and 2015. Over the four Grand Prix it has been Mercedes which has only ever won in Russia and has been the home of the confirmation of winning the World Championships for the last two seasons.

3) Location
Sochi wasn’t the first location looked at for a Russian Grand Prix in the modern era. A number of locations around Moscow were initially favoured including the ‘Pulkovo Ring’, near one of the major airports for Moscow, Nagatino Island and the now-built Moscow Raceway.

4) Hungary
Despite trying to get a race held in Russia, it was Hungary who were the first to hold a Formula One race behind the Iron Curtain. It has been on the calendar since 1986.

5) Olympic Connections
It isn’t the first track to have connections to the Olympic Games. The Gilles Villeneuve circuit in Montreal is held at the home of Rowing when Montral hosted the games, along with the famous Rio circuit which has now been built on for the 2016 Olympics.

Laps: 53 laps
Start time: 15:00hrs local / 13:00 BST / 14:00 CET

Grid advantage

Pole position is located on the left side of the track, on the racing line. There is more grip available on this section of track, but a fast-starting car on the inside can use the flat-out right-hander at Turn One to muscle ahead before the braking point for Turn Two.

DRS

There are two DRS zones, on the approaches to turns Two and 13. The activation point for the first DRS zone is on the apex of Turn One; the second DRS zone winds its way right-handed through turns 11 and 12. Both zones offer good overtaking opportunities.


Safety car

66 per cent, which is high. There have been Safety Car periods in two of the three Russian Grands Prix to date, largely caused by the lack of run-off around the lap. When there’s an accident, there’s usually a Safety Car or Virtual Safety Car period, while the debris gets cleared away.

Watch out for...

Turn Three. This 180-degree left-hander will be flat-out in qualifying and the race this year, giving the drivers more lines and overtaking opportunities. Expect to see cars running two-a-breast through here as drivers seek the inside line for Turn Four.

What makes this race interesting...

The long tyre life and lack of strategy options mean overtaking has to be done on-track. Turns Two and 13 are the main overtaking opportunities, but expect to see action into Turn Four this year as well.


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Offline Dare

Re: Russian GP
« Reply #1 on: April 28, 2017, 01:33:00 AM »
Speed bumps have been added to stop corner cutting

http://www.planetf1.com/news/speed-bumps-added-to-sochis-turn-2/
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Offline J.Clark

Re: Russian GP
« Reply #2 on: April 28, 2017, 11:26:26 AM »
Good job for something quickly put together.  Thanks.   :good:
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Offline cosworth151

Re: Russian GP
« Reply #3 on: April 28, 2017, 02:19:16 PM »
Haas has switched from Brembo to Carbon Industries brakes. The CI brakes have longer pedal travel than the Brembos. Grosjean still isn't happy.

Vandoorne had another Honda power unit give up the ghost on him. Looks like he'll get a 15 place ding on the grid.
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Offline J.Clark

Re: Russian GP
« Reply #4 on: April 28, 2017, 02:51:27 PM »
FFP is done:
1. Sebastian Vettel   GER   Ferrari - Ferrari   1m 34.120s
2. Kimi Raikkonen   FIN   Ferrari - Ferrari   1m 34.383s
3. Valtteri Bottas   FIN   Mercedes - Mercedes   1m 34.790s
4. Lewis Hamilton   GBR   Mercedes - Mercedes   1m 34.829s
5. Max Verstappen NED   Red Bull - TAG   1m 35.540s
6. Daniel Ricciardo AUS   Red Bull - TAG   1m 35.910s
7. Felipe Massa   BRA   Williams - Mercedes   1m 36.261s
8. Nico Hulkenberg   GER   Renault - Renault   1m 36.329s
9. Kevin Magnussen DEN   Haas-Ferrari   1m 36.506s
10. Sergio Perez   MEX   Force India-Mercedes   1m 36.600s
11. Esteban Ocon   FRA   Force India-Mercedes   1m 36.654s
12. Fernando Alonso   ESP   McLaren-Honda   1m 36.765s
13. Jolyon Palmer   GBR   Renault - Renault   1m 36.771s
14. Romain Grosjean FRA   Haas-Ferrari   1m 37.039s
15. Carlos Sainz   ESP   Toro Rosso-Renault   1m 37.083s
16. Stoffel Vandoorne   BEL   McLaren-Honda   1m 37.125s
17. Daniil Kvyat   RUS   Toro Rosso-Renault   1m 37.300s
18. Pascal Wehrlein   GER   Sauber - Ferrari   1m 37.441s
19. Lance Stroll   CAN   Williams - Mercedes   1m 37.747s
20. Marcus Ericsson   SWE   Sauber - Ferrari   1m 37.819s

With the prancing horses at the top of the time sheet, it looks like there may be another multi-team challenge for the championships.

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Offline Jericoke

Re: Russian GP
« Reply #5 on: April 28, 2017, 03:07:08 PM »
Vandoorne had another Honda power unit give up the ghost on him. Looks like he'll get a 15 place ding on the grid.

I forget how the rules work.  Does he have to carry those grid drops forward if doesn't qualify in the top 5? 

('If'    :DD )

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Re: Russian GP
« Reply #6 on: April 28, 2017, 03:12:37 PM »
The Mercedes looked like a real handful on UltraSofts. On Soft tyres the Mercedes looked much better than the Ferrari. However, based on both free practice sessions it looks like the 2 manufacturers and all 4 drivers are going to be really close in the race. I assume that for Qualifying, Mercedes will have an engine setting capable of leaving the Ferrari cars in their wake. However, Bottas was good at Sochi last year so he could give Hamilton a bit of a scare!

Offline cosworth151

Re: Russian GP
« Reply #7 on: April 28, 2017, 04:31:46 PM »
Max stopped on track in FP2. The on-board didn't have any smoke or nasty noises, it seemed to just cut off.
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Offline Ian

Re: Russian GP
« Reply #8 on: April 29, 2017, 11:10:10 AM »
Bit of a headscratcher for pole here, Lewis looks out of it but you can never rule him out.
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Offline J.Clark

Re: Russian GP
« Reply #9 on: April 29, 2017, 11:31:44 AM »
Here is how they stacked up this morning in FP-3:
1.  Vettel      Ferrari   1m 34.001
2.  Raikkonen      Ferrari    1m 34.338
3.  Bottas      Mercedes    1m 34.364
4.  Hamilton      Mercedes    1m 34.542
5.  Verstappen    Red Bull    1m 35.452
6.  Massa      Williams      1m 35.471
7.  Hulkenberg      Renault    1m 35.662
8.  Ricciardo    Red Bull    1m 35.830
9.  Sainz      Toro Rosso   1m 37.164
10. Magnussen    Haas    1m 36.619
11. Stroll      Williams   1m 36.649
12. Ocon      Force India   1m 36.676
13. Kvyat      Toro Rosso   1m 36.846
14. Alonso      McLaren   1m 36.869
15. Perez      Force India   1m 36.962
16. Grosjean    Haas    1m 37.164
17. Vandoorne      McLaren   1m 37.182
18. Ericsson      Sauber    1m 37.503
19. Wehrlein      Sauber    1m 37.657
20. Palmer      Renault    No Time
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Offline cosworth151

Re: Russian GP
« Reply #10 on: April 29, 2017, 03:58:11 PM »
Ferrari gets its first front row lockout since Magny-Cours 2008. Seb P1, Kimi P2, Bottas P3 & Lewis P4.

Haas has changed back to Brembos for Quali. Grosjean dead last in Q1, complaining loudly about his cae. His team mate K-Mag was too busy driving to complain, finishing 7 places and over a second ahead of the Frenchman in the first session.

Wehrlein & Palmer both spin at the end of Q1, bringing out the yellows.

Palmer has a new tub. an exhaust problem overheated his old one & cooked some of the resin out of it.

1. Sebastian Vettel (Ger) Ferrari

2. Kimi Raikkonen (Fin) Ferrari

3. Valtteri Bottas (Fin) Mercedes

4. Lewis Hamilton (Gbr) Mercedes

5. Daniel Ricciardo (Aus) Red Bull - TAG Heuer

6. Felipe Massa (Bra) Williams-Mercedes

7. Max Verstappen (Ned) Red Bull - TAG Heuer

8. Nico Huelkenberg (Ger) Renault

9. Sergio Perez (Mex) Force India - Mercedes

10. Esteban Ocon (Fra) Force India - Mercedes

11. Lance Stroll (Can) Williams-Mercedes

12. Daniil Kvyat (Rus) Toro Rosso - Renault

13. Kevin Magnussen (Den) Haas - Ferrari

14. Carlos Sainz Jr (Spa) Toro Rosso - Renault

15. Fernando Alonso (Spa) McLaren

16. Jolyon Palmer (Gbr) Renault

17. Pascal Wehrlein (Ger) Sauber - Ferrari

18. Marcus Ericsson (Swe) Sauber - Ferrari

19. Romain Grosjean (Fra) Haas - Ferrari

20. Stoffel Vandoorne (Bel) McLaren

This includes Vandoorne's grid penalty.
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Offline Irisado

Re: Russian GP
« Reply #11 on: April 29, 2017, 05:26:05 PM »
I didn't think that Hamilton would take pole this time, and I was right with one of my predictions for a change.  He seems less focused than usual this weekend and is getting flustered out on track, such as with the incident with Hulkenberg and locking up yesterday.  Ferrari's pace was impressive, but I still wonder whether Hamilton lost out through his own erratic Q3 laps, rather than the Mercedes not quite being able to match Ferrari.

Massa's performance stood out, Force India looks solid again, and Hulkenberg put in a good lap in the Renault.  McLaren, meantime, had another disaster, and I cannot figure out Haas and Grosjean.  Some weekends they are right up there and others they are nowhere.  I'm confused.  They must be too.
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Offline lkjohnson1950

Re: Russian GP
« Reply #12 on: April 29, 2017, 07:07:34 PM »
Grosjean fears his rear brakes will lock and he'll spin or even crash. The new cars are less planted at the rear anyway. Soooo, he's braking early, too early.
Lonny

Offline Scott

Re: Russian GP
« Reply #13 on: April 29, 2017, 07:57:22 PM »
Grossjean should copy his teammate's setup and just get on with it.  Getting a bit tiresome listening to him whine while the other car doesn't have nearly as much trouble.
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Offline lkjohnson1950

Re: Russian GP
« Reply #14 on: April 29, 2017, 09:16:42 PM »
KMag also complained about the brakes, just quietly and with less drama.
Lonny

 


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