Pirelli conditions

[Robem64]

So...just bring in other tyre manufacturers.

https://www.planetf1.com/news/pirelli-will-stay-in-f1-on-two-conditions/

[John S]

Pirelli has only supplied what FIA/FOM has asked it to supply, can't say I've always liked the tyres that have been available but at least it's the same for everyone. Seem to remember there was only one other bidder to supply F1 last time this came up and the rival bidder put the restriction of bigger wheels on their tender.

If you're suggesting a return to various suppliers on the same grid Rob I strongly disagree. Too many times in the past cars that are not good enough for wins or places in level conditions have walked off with the honours because their tyres suited the circuit better.

The only way I can see multi suppliers working is to restrict the number of teams they can supply like they do with engines. However I doubt they can find interest from 3 or 4 tyre makers.



   

[cosworth151]

I wonder if the FIA/FOM could find even one more tire supplier interested in F1 under the current circumstances. I think Bridgestone & Michelin have had all of the fun they could stand from their involvement in the sport.

[Jericoke]

Pirelli has done a great job providing what the FIA asks for when we know they could easily build a 'super tire' that lasts all race weekend.

I would like to see more suppliers.  The issues of the past heavily involved in season testing favouring one team over others.  Since we don't have the same scale of in season testing now, it wouldn't be an issue.  Otherwise, it's no different from a competitive team being hamstrung by a bad engine, or a weak team being buoyed by a strong engine. 

I like variety in the sport when possible, but when the FIA mandates tires that are intentionally sub par, it's hard for the suppliers to compete.

[Scott]

I'm on the one supplier side of the fence on this one.  If a team chooses the wrong supplier for say a 3 year contract, then they are stuck in that category, and that category could be the last 5 teams or the first 5 teams.  If the tires suck, no amount of engine or aero fussing can overcome that.

[Jericoke]

I'm on the one supplier side of the fence on this one.  If a team chooses the wrong supplier for say a 3 year contract, then they are stuck in that category, and that category could be the last 5 teams or the first 5 teams.  If the tires suck, no amount of engine or aero fussing can overcome that.

And if every team uses the same tires we end up with races that are processional, as there is no advantage available by choosing a tire that starts strong and fades, or one that needs more temperature but lasts longer.

With single tire supplier, we still risk the tires being suited to one particular car, with multiple suppliers, we're more likely to get at least a couple teams with tires that suit their car.

[Scott]

No, we end up with processional races because of stupid aero rules. 

[Robem64]

Maybe it's moving to low profiles.

https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/136501/f1-pushing-for-bigger-wheels-for-2021

[cosworth151]

Right now, the flex of the taller sidewalls is a major component in the cars' suspensions. It would require an extensive redesign to go to the low profile tires. The teams win;t want to do that before the 2021 rule changes.

[Scott]

Yeah, didn't they already bring this idea up a year or two ago and the same argument was given.  The suspension changes would be massive to support low profile tires. 

I would put a challenge out to Pirelli to come up with an effective, puncture-proof tire.  Maybe even without a chamber of any kind.  Solid rubber.  Low profile is a step in that direction, but why not all the way, but give them a few years to develop it.