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Author Topic: Are Mercedes cry babies?  (Read 917 times)

Offline Dare

Are Mercedes cry babies?
« on: July 09, 2018, 12:11:27 AM »
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  • Hamilton's bad start was partly to blame for
    the accident. Saying Kimi did it on purpose was
    childish. If on purpose he'd have made sure LH coldn't continue

    https://www.yahoo.com/sports/mercedes-apos-lauda-recent-ferrari-163209137.html


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    Offline Jericoke

    Re: Are Mercedes cry babies?
    « Reply #1 on: July 09, 2018, 03:40:29 AM »
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  • Mercedes does sound like they're feeling entitled.  Start better and you don't have to worry about this.  Replace Bottas with Stroll if you're worried about the first corner.

    I didn't appreciate Hamilton spending the first lap complaining about the car, to cover his ass in case he didn't make it through the field.  Way to support the team there, blaming them when they'd built you a car that can withstand a bump and then pass 18 of the fastest cars in all of motorsports.

    Offline Robem64

    Re: Are Mercedes cry babies?
    « Reply #2 on: July 09, 2018, 07:42:14 AM »
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  • and even after he'd calmed down a bit he carried on the accusations in the post-race press conference.

    I thought Seb handled it very well.....and called it "quite silly" which is, I think, as much of a response as it deserves.
    "I'm not a pessimist, I'm an optimist with experience"

    Offline Alianora La Canta

    Re: Are Mercedes cry babies?
    « Reply #3 on: July 10, 2018, 12:12:19 AM »
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  • Mercedes should have known better. It was obvious that Kimi missed his braking point. He would still have missed his braking point whether it was Hamilton, Vettel or a groundhog in the path.
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    Offline cosworth151

    Re: Are Mercedes cry babies?
    « Reply #4 on: July 10, 2018, 08:25:02 PM »
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  • Lewis calmed down some later, and took to Instagram to describe his actions quite well, IMO:

    “It was a racing incident and nothing more. Sometimes we say dumb s**t and we learn from it.
    “You can search the world over for the finer things, but you won't find a match for the American road and the creatures that live on it.”
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    Offline Calman

    Re: Are Mercedes cry babies?
    « Reply #5 on: July 11, 2018, 07:48:58 AM »
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  • In answer to the topic title ... Yes!

    On another slant, JV opens his trap and stirs the pot once again ... https://www.planetf1.com/news/jv-hitting-bottas-would-have-only-cost-kimi-5s/

    But ... does he have a bit of a point (or 5) this time around??

    Best Regards,
    Cal :)
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    Re: Are Mercedes cry babies?
    « Reply #6 on: July 11, 2018, 11:49:00 AM »
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  • Mercedes should have known better. It was obvious that Kimi missed his braking point. He would still have missed his braking point whether it was Hamilton, Vettel or a groundhog in the path.

    Point of order:- I've never seen groundhogs at Silverstone Alia, but then I've never jogged the circuit in a mini marathon.  :D

    Good point well made though about Kimi's late left foot.  :good:

       
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    Offline Dare

    Re: Are Mercedes cry babies?
    « Reply #7 on: July 11, 2018, 12:29:49 PM »
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  • In answer to the topic title ... Yes!

    On another slant, JV opens his trap and stirs the pot once again ... https://www.planetf1.com/news/jv-hitting-bottas-would-have-only-cost-kimi-5s/

    But ... does he have a bit of a point (or 5) this time around??

    Best Regards,
    Cal :)


    For once JV makes sense
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    Offline lkjohnson1950

    Re: Are Mercedes cry babies?
    « Reply #8 on: July 11, 2018, 05:24:41 PM »
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  • I think the loud braying Mercedes did about the leniency of Vettel's penalty probably caused Kimi to get a bigger one. The noise they made about Kimi deliberately hitting Lewis will probably make them look extra close at any further contact between Ferrari and Mercedes. American athletes use this technique regularly. If a ref or umpire makes a close call early in a game, you challenge it and complain loudly to plant a little seed of doubt so that the next call might go your way instead. 
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    Offline Calman

    Re: Are Mercedes cry babies?
    « Reply #9 on: July 11, 2018, 06:55:42 PM »
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  • The question is, if the contact was made in the identical manor - only with two other teams/drivers, would it have been deemed "a racing incident" by the race stewards, especially as they keep reminding us that 1st lap incidents (particularly the first 10-20 seconds after the green light) are given extra consideration???

    Best Regards,
    Cal :)
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    Offline Dare

    Re: Are Mercedes cry babies?
    « Reply #10 on: July 11, 2018, 09:53:13 PM »
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  • I think the loud braying Mercedes did about the leniency of Vettel's penalty probably caused Kimi to get a bigger one. The noise they made about Kimi deliberately hitting Lewis will probably make them look extra close at any further contact between Ferrari and Mercedes. American athletes use this technique regularly. If a ref or umpire makes a close call early in a game, you challenge it and complain loudly to plant a little seed of doubt so that the next call might go your way instead.


    Only problem is Kimi didn't hit Ham on purpose. If Ham would
    have hit Kimi nothing would have happened
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    democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those
    who are
    willing to work and give to those who would not."
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    Offline Robem64

    Re: Are Mercedes cry babies?
    « Reply #11 on: July 12, 2018, 05:22:11 PM »
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  • Here's my new T-shirt that I'm looking forward to wearing to next GP  :D

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    "I'm not a pessimist, I'm an optimist with experience"

    Offline Calman

    Re: Are Mercedes cry babies?
    « Reply #12 on: July 12, 2018, 05:26:39 PM »
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  • Here's my new T-shirt that I'm looking forward to wearing to next GP  :D

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    Looks like you have all options covered there Robem64!  :DD

    Best Regards,
    Cal :)
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    Re: Are Mercedes cry babies?
    « Reply #13 on: July 12, 2018, 07:27:36 PM »
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  • Here's my new T-shirt that I'm looking forward to wearing to next GP  :D

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    I wouldn't try wearing that in Woodcote A grandstand Robem64, from what I hear from a friend they cheered ecstatically to a man/lady when Lewis stuffed Seb for Pole.  |-(
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    Offline cosworth151

    Re: Are Mercedes cry babies?
    « Reply #14 on: July 13, 2018, 01:53:10 AM »
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  • No worries, John. The next race is in Germany.  ;)
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