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Author Topic: German GP  (Read 3652 times)

Offline Scott

German GP
« on: July 21, 2018, 06:36:12 PM »
Same crap, different week.  Lewis is throwing someone else under the bus (this time his team, or more accurately, the car).  Sorry Lewis, the onboard has audio.  Everyone watched the replay half a dozen times and each time heard the engine note completely change when the car came back to earth after he took it airborne on the Kerb.  Driver error broke the car, the car did not cause the error.  Maybe there’s a clause in his new contract that forces the team to publicly back any outrageous claim he has.

Nice try though.  Until he came out with that I was tending to think it might be a conspiracy to have him start from the back again to make the race more exciting.
« Last Edit: July 21, 2018, 06:38:51 PM by Scott »


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Offline Warmwater

Re: German GP
« Reply #1 on: July 21, 2018, 07:29:10 PM »
Apparently there was an issue with the power steering (hydraulics) before the curb bouncing and retirement. Probably it was a loss of hydraulic pressure that led to Mr. Hamiltons brain fade.  >:D
If everything seems under control, you're not going fast enough.” ― Mario Andretti.

Offline Robem64

Re: German GP
« Reply #2 on: July 21, 2018, 08:47:42 PM »
Same crap, different week.  Lewis is throwing someone else under the bus (this time his team, or more accurately, the car).  Sorry Lewis, the onboard has audio.  Everyone watched the replay half a dozen times and each time heard the engine note completely change when the car came back to earth after he took it airborne on the Kerb.  Driver error broke the car, the car did not cause the error.  Maybe there’s a clause in his new contract that forces the team to publicly back any outrageous claim he has.

Nice try though.  Until he came out with that I was tending to think it might be a conspiracy to have him start from the back again to make the race more exciting.

Well summarised Scott :)
"I'm not a pessimist, I'm an optimist with experience"

Offline Calman

Re: German GP
« Reply #3 on: July 22, 2018, 05:47:00 AM »
Yes, I found his 'interview' amusing.   When being asked by the reporter if his trip over the kerb caused the issue, he more or less denied it outright, where most other drivers who say something like "I'm not sure, we will have to look at the data" ... but Lewis insists something failed before the Kerb, which he stated he takes the same every time around.  Funny, I only saw footage of 1 rally cross spectacular.   Looked like he was starting to argue with the race marshal, as you could see the arm indicating "we are instructed to pull your broken car off the track" ... while Lewis was about to push it a couple of miles around the track!!!

Then, we see a brief interview with Toto, who categorically insists the "opposite" of Lewis's unfolding of events leading to the breakdown .... hilarious!!!!

Oh well, if nothing else, it should make for an entertaining race with Danny Ric and Hamilton at the back.  Also, with Ferrari's "super engine" .... the cars with Red, Silver and Grey should do well tomorrow.   I would have said white too, but didn't want to confuse the selection with Williams hopes!!!   :-[

Best Regards,
Cal :)
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Offline Robem64

Re: German GP
« Reply #4 on: July 22, 2018, 06:37:39 AM »
I would have said white too, but didn't want to confuse the selection with Williams hopes!!!   :-[

Best Regards,
Cal :)

I do admire your continued optimism Cal  :good:
"I'm not a pessimist, I'm an optimist with experience"

Offline Alianora La Canta

Re: German GP
« Reply #5 on: July 22, 2018, 08:26:19 AM »
The failure apparently happened on the kerb before the rallycross, which reconciles both versions of the story (because Hamilton's original interviewer was too specific about how they phrased the Turn 1 story).
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Offline cosworth151

Re: German GP
« Reply #6 on: July 22, 2018, 03:58:25 PM »
Lewis drove a good race. Seb made a mistake & it cost him dearly. DannyRic's equipment let him down again. Once again, K-Mag ran 4/5th of a good race.  :'(
“You can search the world over for the finer things, but you won't find a match for the American road and the creatures that live on it.”
― Bob Dylan

Offline Jericoke

Re: German GP
« Reply #7 on: July 22, 2018, 08:36:42 PM »
I was surprised at the elation of the crowd when Seb went out.  You'd think it was Mika going out at Monza!

They also seemed quite elated with Lewis's win.  Are Germans not a fan of Vettel?  Do the prefer their marques to their countrymen?

Offline cosworth151

Re: German GP
« Reply #8 on: July 22, 2018, 08:49:21 PM »
It looked like a lot of the folks cheering were wearing orange. Dutch fans of Max.
“You can search the world over for the finer things, but you won't find a match for the American road and the creatures that live on it.”
― Bob Dylan

Offline Dare

Re: German GP
« Reply #9 on: July 22, 2018, 09:05:50 PM »
Another podium for Kimi makes me think while Charles
may be the future could he do any better at Ferrari than
Kimi under the Vettel influence?
Mark Twain once opined, "it's easier to con someone than to convince them they've been conned."

Offline cosworth151

Re: German GP
« Reply #10 on: July 22, 2018, 09:29:05 PM »
I'll say this for Vettel, he took the blame for the shunt:

“I think it was a huge mistake, a huge impact on the race, because we retired there.”
“You can search the world over for the finer things, but you won't find a match for the American road and the creatures that live on it.”
― Bob Dylan

Offline Robem64

Re: German GP
« Reply #11 on: July 22, 2018, 09:31:40 PM »
I'm a little dumbfounded by the stewards decision on the Hamilton pit lane entry incident. This is clearly prohibited within the rules barring force majeure.
I don't call "confusion within the team" as force majeure. Given Kimi got a 5 second penalty at Baku in 2016 for similar then consistency should be the rule. I also don't understand how it took so long to get this referred to the stewards and a decision made - we all saw it happen on track. Why was it not reviewed during the race - if Bottas was driving for a different team, and potentially would have won if a 5 sec penalty was applied. then I suspect there'd be more noise
Incidentally, how come nothing was said about Hamilton pushing his car on track during Quali - surely a safety issue there.

Michael Schumacher got himself a reputation as having his own rule book - Hamilton is in danger of falling into this too.

"I'm not a pessimist, I'm an optimist with experience"

Offline Dare

Re: German GP
« Reply #12 on: July 22, 2018, 10:09:06 PM »
I'm a little dumbfounded by the stewards decision on the Hamilton pit lane entry incident. This is clearly prohibited within the rules barring force majeure.
I don't call "confusion within the team" as force majeure. Given Kimi got a 5 second penalty at Baku in 2016 for similar then consistency should be the rule. I also don't understand how it took so long to get this referred to the stewards and a decision made - we all saw it happen on track. Why was it not reviewed during the race - if Bottas was driving for a different team, and potentially would have won if a 5 sec penalty was applied. then I suspect there'd be more noise
Incidentally, how come nothing was said about Hamilton pushing his car on track during Quali - surely a safety issue there.

Michael Schumacher got himself a reputation as having his own rule book - Hamilton is in danger of falling into this too.


Spot on. Vettel gets a 5 sec penalty,  Kimi a 10,and Lewis none.
How is this fair stewarding?
Mark Twain once opined, "it's easier to con someone than to convince them they've been conned."

Offline Dare

Re: German GP
« Reply #13 on: July 22, 2018, 10:10:36 PM »
Maybe F1 needs to follow gold where you call penalties
on yourself :crazy:
Mark Twain once opined, "it's easier to con someone than to convince them they've been conned."

Offline lkjohnson1950

Re: German GP
« Reply #14 on: July 23, 2018, 12:02:25 AM »
On Sky coverage, Brundle was mumbling something about Hamilton not crossing some line so he was OK. Not sure what he was referring to.
Lonny

 


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