collapse

* Welcome

Welcome to GPWizard F1 Forum!

GPWizard is the friendliest F1 forum you'll find anywhere. You have a host of new like-minded friends waiting to welcome you.

So what are you waiting for? Becoming a member is easy and free! Take a couple seconds out of your day and register now. We guarantee, you wont be sorry you did.

Click Here to become a full Member for Free

* User Info

 
 
Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.
Did you miss your activation email?

* Newsletter

GPWizard F1 Forum Newsletter Email address:
Weekly
Fortnightly
Monthly

* Grid Game Deadlines

Qualifying

Race

* Shoutbox

Refresh History
  • cosworth151: This Sunday is Mothers Day here in the States. I'll be helping with the free breakfast we do at our Amvets Post every M's Day, so I'll be popping in and out of the Chat Room
    May 10, 2019, 03:57:04 PM
  • Wizzo: Mothers day here in the UK so I will be absent in the chat room today. Have fun!
    March 31, 2019, 10:47:48 AM
  • Jericoke: For newcomers to GPWizard, make sure you check out the live chat during the race!  It's the best way to turn a dull race into a great time, and the cherry on top of a great race!  (I won't be able to attend Aussie though)
    March 15, 2019, 07:48:58 PM
  • Wizzo: The 2019 Grid Game is now open. Please check out the new rules before entering.
    February 17, 2019, 04:56:33 PM
  • John S: Glad the site is back online, we don't know how much we like it til it's gone. Thanks Wizzo.
    February 02, 2019, 09:19:33 PM
  • Calman: Glad to see you back online Wizzo.  Did the issue point to a corrupted MySQL Data Table?
    February 02, 2019, 08:53:13 PM
  • Wizzo: I apologise for the downtime. Normal service has been resumed.
    February 02, 2019, 07:53:12 PM
  • Calman: Looks like the forum is experiencing Database/Server Issues! ... will check in later tonight.
    February 01, 2019, 01:11:41 AM
  • Calman: Thanks for getting back to me on that Wizzo ... I'll look at my donations when it's re-activated, thanks!
    December 14, 2018, 09:06:39 PM
  • Wizzo: No its not your imagination Cal. This option has been disabled for the time being.
    December 14, 2018, 03:50:09 PM
  • Calman: Is it my imagination, or has the "Shop" dropdown option disappeared from the navigation bar at the top of the forum?
    December 13, 2018, 07:59:13 PM
  • Wizzo: Thanks for letting me know. If anyone sees this issue again then please PM me.
    October 27, 2018, 10:19:33 AM
  • lkjohnson1950: OK, ot was alittle longer than 10 hours. Had problem 8 PM 10/24, was gone at 3:30 10/25.
    October 26, 2018, 03:53:12 PM
  • lkjohnson1950: It was working fine by yesterday PM, about 10 hours after I first got it.
    October 26, 2018, 03:48:36 PM
  • Wizzo: I cannot recreate the error that you are seeing but I have replaced the file that would cause the error. Please try again and let me know how you get on.
    October 26, 2018, 12:13:28 PM
  • Wizzo: I'm looking into this at the moment. Thanks
    October 26, 2018, 11:50:19 AM
  • lkjohnson1950: Hey Wiz, when I try to post a new topic or reply to an old one, I get a screen that says parse error.
    October 25, 2018, 04:12:09 AM
  • Dare: way to go Kimi
    October 21, 2018, 11:31:06 PM
  • Dare: I was in a steward mode....I saw nothing
    October 05, 2018, 11:37:09 PM
  • Wizzo: Just a quick note. You will not see the Chat Room at the bottom when viewing any of the Grid Game pages
    October 05, 2018, 08:55:16 AM

* Who's Online

  • Dot Guests: 57
  • Dot Hidden: 0
  • Dot Users: 0

There aren't any users online.

* Top Posters

cosworth151 cosworth151
15142 Posts
Scott Scott
13826 Posts
Dare Dare
12283 Posts
John S John S
10027 Posts
Ian Ian
9677 Posts

* IntentsGP Advert

pre-erected f1 camping & glamping with intentsGP

Author Topic: McLaren partnering with Chevrolet?  (Read 761 times)

Offline Jericoke

McLaren partnering with Chevrolet?
« on: December 07, 2018, 05:55:20 PM »
  • Publish
  • https://www.bbc.com/sport/formula1/46437215

    It's an article about McLaren entering the Indy500 with a team for Alonso.  This time they're going to run Chevrolet engines, and hoping for a better result than their run with Honda in 2017. 

    Reading the article it got me thinking though.  They have nothing but nice things to say about Chevrolet, maybe they're looking at a long game to get an American car company involved in Formula One again?  If McLaren and Chevy can put together a high profile win at Indy, why not look to expand into something more meaningful?  Liberty would love to have GM or Ford running in Formula One too.  McLaren really wanted an 'independent' engine supply, hence sticking with Honda for so long, and I'm guessing they still do want that, which means looking at someone who's not in F1.

    (For purely historic purposes, I'd love to see Sauber powered by a Chevrolet too!)



    Offline Calman

    Re: McLaren partnering with Chevrolet?
    « Reply #1 on: December 07, 2018, 08:26:44 PM »
  • Publish
  • Five words .... I Very Much Doubt It.

    Best Regards,
    Cal :)
    Anyone Have A Decent Pen?

    Offline John S

    Re: McLaren partnering with Chevrolet?
    « Reply #2 on: December 07, 2018, 08:44:25 PM »
  • Publish
  • In 3 words ……... it'll never happen.  :D
    Racing is life - everything else is just waiting. (Steve McQueen)

    Offline Jericoke

    Re: McLaren partnering with Chevrolet?
    « Reply #3 on: December 07, 2018, 09:02:21 PM »
  • Publish
  • Five words .... I Very Much Doubt It.

    Best Regards,
    Cal :)

    The engine that McLaren will be using in Indy is the Chevrolet, which is built by Ilmor, which we all know built engines for Mercedes in the past, including their 1998/1999 championship seasons.

    I don't see it as impossible for them to rekindle their partnership under the Chevrolet name, given much heavier American involvement in the sport.

    Offline John S

    Re: McLaren partnering with Chevrolet?
    « Reply #4 on: December 07, 2018, 10:53:41 PM »
  • Publish
  • Five words .... I Very Much Doubt It.

    Best Regards,
    Cal :)

    The engine that McLaren will be using in Indy is the Chevrolet, which is built by Ilmor, which we all know built engines for Mercedes in the past, including their 1998/1999 championship seasons.

    I don't see it as impossible for them to rekindle their partnership under the Chevrolet name, given much heavier American involvement in the sport.


    Ilmor would find it nigh impossible to fund development required for the Hybrid elements of the present gen F1 engines.

    It's why Aston Martin pulled back as soon as no change to engines after 2021 announced.

    Ilmor's F1 glory days were with V10/V8 engines but they have been history since 2013.

    Indycar engines are twin turbo V6 with no hybrid elements and look how hard Honda, with very deep pockets, are finding F1 hybrid engine development. 


    Racing is life - everything else is just waiting. (Steve McQueen)

    Offline Dare

    Re: McLaren partnering with Chevrolet?
    « Reply #5 on: December 07, 2018, 11:01:31 PM »
  • Publish
  • In 3 words ……... it'll never happen.  :D


    In one word never
    "The
    democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those
    who are
    willing to work and give to those who would not."
    --
    Thomas
    Jefferson

    Offline cosworth151

    Re: McLaren partnering with Chevrolet?
    « Reply #6 on: December 08, 2018, 05:23:29 PM »
  • Publish
  • McLaren has two choices in IndyCar - Chevy or Honda. Things aren't exactly sweetness & light between McLaren and Honda, so......

    GM just announced the closing of several factories here in the States with the loss of 14,000 jobs. I don't think they want to be seen throwing a ton of money at F1 under those circumstances.
    « Last Edit: December 08, 2018, 05:25:59 PM by cosworth151 »
    “You can search the world over for the finer things, but you won't find a match for the American road and the creatures that live on it.”
    ― Bob Dylan

    Offline Calman

    Re: McLaren partnering with Chevrolet?
    « Reply #7 on: December 08, 2018, 08:42:59 PM »
  • Publish
  • This is the GM angle from Canada's side of the fence ...

    https://www.theglobeandmail.com/business/article-general-motors-to-shut-down-oshawa-plant-sources-say/

    Best Regards,
    Cal :)
    Anyone Have A Decent Pen?

    Offline Jericoke

    Re: McLaren partnering with Chevrolet?
    « Reply #8 on: December 10, 2018, 12:48:41 AM »
  • Publish
  • McLaren has two choices in IndyCar - Chevy or Honda. Things aren't exactly sweetness & light between McLaren and Honda, so......

    GM just announced the closing of several factories here in the States with the loss of 14,000 jobs. I don't think they want to be seen throwing a ton of money at F1 under those circumstances.

    GM sort of painted themselves into a corner, they can't design a car to save their lives, their customers only purchase SUVs and trucks.  The SUV and truck plants aren't running at capacity, so they're just closing any factory that makes cars.

    You're certainly right that that putting people out of work and then spending a billion dollars on F1 would send a bad message.  I hadn't considered that.

    It does make me wonder what sort of 'car' Chevy and Ford will run in NASCAR if they don't sell cars.

    Offline cosworth151

    Re: McLaren partnering with Chevrolet?
    « Reply #9 on: December 10, 2018, 03:44:26 PM »
  • Publish
  • Ford is keeping the Mustang. Chevy is keeping the Camaro & Corvette. Chevy is already running a pseudo Camaro in the Cup. Ford will switch to a simulated Mustang for 2019.

    We have a similar thing with GM here in Ohio, Calman. The Lordstown, Ohio plant has been cut back and is on the chopping block. It builds the Chevy Cruize, yet another model heading for that great parking lot in the sky. The plant was built in the early 1970's to build the Chevy Vega.
    “You can search the world over for the finer things, but you won't find a match for the American road and the creatures that live on it.”
    ― Bob Dylan

    Offline Dare

    Re: McLaren partnering with Chevrolet?
    « Reply #10 on: December 11, 2018, 01:18:21 AM »
  • Publish
  • Gratitude by GM for bailing them out.
    "The
    democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those
    who are
    willing to work and give to those who would not."
    --
    Thomas
    Jefferson

    Offline Alianora La Canta

    Re: McLaren partnering with Chevrolet?
    « Reply #11 on: December 17, 2018, 03:32:12 PM »
  • Publish
  • I could imagine Chevrolet doing an Aston-Martin-style rebadge of another engine. Otherwise... ...I concur with the prevailing opinion.

    (This would be the 18-word answer from me).
    Percussus resurgio
    @lacanta (Twitter)
    http://alianoralacanta.tumblr.com (Blog/Tumblr)