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Author Topic: Ferrari replace Arrivabene  (Read 1749 times)

Offline John S

Re: Ferrari replace Arrivabene
« Reply #15 on: January 09, 2019, 07:03:27 PM »
Not sure I agree with feisty drivers in a team spurring each other on, it seems to have lead to controversy and bodywork damage on too many occasions.

When a team has a clear car advantage, allowing them to have on track rumbles doesn't usually lead to loss of either WDC or Constructor's title. However when there's strong competition from another team squabbling pilots can and invariably do lose one or other title.

My personal feeling is that Arrivabene knew from Marchionne   at beginning of last season that he would be redundant if he failed to deliver a title. The premature death of the chief simply left the door open for Maurizio to engage in a power struggle to stay. He obviously lost that as well.     
Racing is life - everything else is just waiting. (Steve McQueen)

Offline monty

Re: Ferrari replace Arrivabene
« Reply #16 on: January 10, 2019, 08:30:37 AM »
I struggle to like or respect Vettel but I have a dilemma about last year - was this an arrogant driver 'meddling' in team strategy decisions and therefore losing concentration and making mistakes; or was it a very good driver seeing that the team were incapable of making the right strategy calls and therefore feeling it necessary to get involved? Either way, Vettel/Ferrari were not a shining example of 'winning as a team and losing as a team' but in my opinion that has been Ferrari's problems throughout recent history. It operates as a dictatorship but with more than one dictator!

Offline Jericoke

Re: Ferrari replace Arrivabene
« Reply #17 on: January 10, 2019, 03:11:29 PM »
Not sure I agree with feisty drivers in a team spurring each other on, it seems to have lead to controversy and bodywork damage on too many occasions.

When a team has a clear car advantage, allowing them to have on track rumbles doesn't usually lead to loss of either WDC or Constructor's title. However when there's strong competition from another team squabbling pilots can and invariably do lose one or other title.

My personal feeling is that Arrivabene knew from Marchionne   at beginning of last season that he would be redundant if he failed to deliver a title. The premature death of the chief simply left the door open for Maurizio to engage in a power struggle to stay. He obviously lost that as well.   

You're right, it fails more often than it succeeds, but Ferrari can't just keep hoping things work out with Vettel wihtout trying something new.

Whatever happens it provides great cover for Binotto.  If the LeClerc hire doesn't provide a championship, well, that was something he inherited.  If it does win a championship... or Vettel wins a championship despite LeClerc, then that's something that Binotto can hang the rest of his career on too.

Offline Calman

Re: Ferrari replace Arrivabene
« Reply #18 on: January 10, 2019, 06:32:10 PM »
I struggle to like or respect Vettel but I have a dilemma about last year - was this an arrogant driver 'meddling' in team strategy decisions and therefore losing concentration and making mistakes; or was it a very good driver seeing that the team were incapable of making the right strategy calls and therefore feeling it necessary to get involved?

Honestly Monty,  I would say a little of both.  Seb likes to be more involved at Ferrari than he ever was at RBR.  That could simply be down to what it means to drive for such a team, or a progression in his experience, to provide as much feedback/knowledge back to the team.

I would be the first to admit, I thought he was a little BLEEP-BLEEP in the early Seb/Webber Red Bull days, but apart for the occasional outburst/bad decision on track these days, I feel that he is more professional/respectful to the sport and his competitors.  Maybe there is hope for Max too - but I doubt it.

I hate to say it, but at this stage in the game, character wise, I see Max turning into a combination of Schumacher/Vettel (in his earlier years at RBR).

Best Regards,
Cal :)
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Offline Calman

Re: Ferrari replace Arrivabene
« Reply #19 on: January 14, 2019, 09:27:57 PM »
Back on the subject of Ferrari Management, strong rumours now suggest that Stefano Domenicali is on the way back to the team .... I did like that guy!!!

Best Regards,
Cal :)
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Offline Dare

Re: Ferrari replace Arrivabene
« Reply #20 on: January 15, 2019, 02:25:58 AM »
Like him or not but if he was younger
Flav would be a good one.2 WC's for 4 titles
"The
democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those
who are
willing to work and give to those who would not."
--
Thomas
Jefferson

 


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