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Author Topic: Are new F1 teams looking hard at 2021 new deal and regs?  (Read 3545 times)

Offline Jericoke

Re: Are new F1 teams looking hard at 2021 new deal and regs?
« Reply #15 on: March 29, 2019, 11:51:30 PM »
In Ye Olden Tymes Ferrari and Merc would not sell their engines to anyone. If you really wanted their engine you could buy it, but there should be an independent supplier so you didn't have to sell your soul to get a suspect powerplant.

So a rule where if a team manufactures its own engine, it cannot sell it.

It would be a pretty good rule.  A supplier with  several teams would have much more data to work with when it comes to development, to counteract the deep pockets of teams with their own engine programmes!

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Re: Are new F1 teams looking hard at 2021 new deal and regs?
« Reply #16 on: March 30, 2019, 11:47:58 AM »
Your rule sounds fine in theory Jeri, unfortunately in practice where you gonna find another engine supplier with the kind of deep pockets to invest in an F1 engine with no chance of selling it at a profit to the end customers.

Even charging 5 teams $40m each year comes nowhere near the true costs, and that's nearly twice what they pay at present.

The big costs are in the initial development from scratch, but you will still need money spent on continuing the development or the cars running your engine will be permanently glued to the back of the field - not what you have in mind I'd guess.

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Re: Are new F1 teams looking hard at 2021 new deal and regs?
« Reply #17 on: March 30, 2019, 01:13:00 PM »
Your rule sounds fine in theory Jeri, unfortunately in practice where you gonna find another engine supplier with the kind of deep pockets to invest in an F1 engine with no chance of selling it at a profit to the end customers.

Even charging 5 teams $40m each year comes nowhere near the true costs, and that's nearly twice what they pay at present.

The big costs are in the initial development from scratch, but you will still need money spent on continuing the development or the cars running your engine will be permanently glued to the back of the field - not what you have in mind I'd guess.

It would have to be implemented for the next engine formula refresh.  The FIA could always subsidize the engine development, especially if they're pushing for more 'green' technology.

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Re: Are new F1 teams looking hard at 2021 new deal and regs?
« Reply #18 on: March 30, 2019, 01:52:33 PM »
Jeri if you think the FIA has money to develop an F1 engine you're sorely wide of the mark. The whole FIA world set up probably has a smaller income and budget than one of the smaller F1 teams. It has legal status as a Voluntary Association and most of it's members are volunteers - including the President Jean Todt- (although expenses are paid). A small group of core personnel have salaried positions in both the Motor racing side and the world Mobility arena.   

The Commercial and regulatory parts of F1 are separated to comply with EU laws, it's Liberty/FOM who gets the real money from F1.

Can't see Liberty funding an engine programme after paying Billions to buy the right to earn less than the previous commercial owners took from F1.  :D

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