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Re: 2019 Chinese GP Hero's and Zero's
« Reply #15 on: April 15, 2019, 10:44:10 AM »
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  • Many of us agreed that Ferrari would favour Vettel but so far their decision making has not only been unfair to Leclerc, it has surely reduced Ferrari's Constructor Championship position. It seems to me that if they had not made Leclerc slow to allow Vettel to overtake they had a good chance of getting third and fourth in the race??
    I was still disappointed by Verstappen's foul mouthed whinging during Quali. It is a real shame RBR do not have another driver to really challenge boy-wonder. Perhaps when Albon replaces Gasly..... ;)
    It was a real shame that such a little shunt ruined the race for both McLarens and the Torro Rosso but I think Kvyatt was treated far too harshly.
    Great to see Danny Ric in the points but another car failure for Hulk is worrying.
    Kimi did what Kimi does  :good:
    Thumbs up for Perez; thumbs down for Stroll.
    Williams..... oh dear, oh dear, dear. Fingers crossed Patrick Head can help them find something fast!

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    Re: 2019 Chinese GP Hero's and Zero's
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  • As to the Kvyat incident, I watched it a few times and IMO both Kvyat and Norris had “moments” that needed a sudden correction, and all would have been fine, but Sainz was unfortunately in between them and was pinched.  I put no more blame on Kvyat than the other two.  It was just racing.  No penalty needed.
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    Re: 2019 Chinese GP Hero's and Zero's
    « Reply #17 on: April 15, 2019, 01:57:33 PM »
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  • As to the Kvyat incident, I watched it a few times and IMO both Kvyat and Norris had “moments” that needed a sudden correction, and all would have been fine, but Sainz was unfortunately in between them and was pinched.  I put no more blame on Kvyat than the other two.  It was just racing.  No penalty needed.

    Yeah I agree it was a racing incident and not only that the penalty was also too harsh even if he was guilty. Think they only gave it as it took both Macca's out of the running.

    Lando bears responsibility to be more careful when coming back onto the track. For me though Sainz with his experience should have been more aware that his trajectory was very vulnerable with Lando returning in front and Kvyat to the side  - you can't win a race on the first lap but you can certainly lose one by keeping your foot in at the wrong time.   
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    Re: 2019 Chinese GP Hero's and Zero's
    « Reply #18 on: April 15, 2019, 07:41:24 PM »
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  • I thought it was initially Stroll's fault for clipping Kyvat, and everything beyond that was simply dominoes falling out of place. So when Kyvat was penalised for the crime of being hit by a driver who'd failed to anticipate what was ahead, I was a little puzzled.
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    « Reply #19 on: April 15, 2019, 07:53:28 PM »
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  • I also wondered whether Kvyat got a knock from behind before taking out the two McLarens. But, as already noted by others, the camera work was so shoddy that they never really showed the incident from a clear angle. Did you actually see Kvyat get clipped by stroll?

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    « Reply #20 on: April 15, 2019, 08:00:22 PM »
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  • I also wondered whether Kvyat got a knock from behind before taking out the two McLarens. But, as already noted by others, the camera work was so shoddy that they never really showed the incident from a clear angle. Did you actually see Kvyat get clipped by stroll?

    I believe one of the eleventy million start replays was from Stroll's camera, and to me that camera was the one that indicated he started the whole mess. Admittedly, it appeared to be a minor misjudgement of brakes, thus probably not deserving of a penalty... ...but I also believe it exonerates Kyvat. It's hard to avoid a forward crash if there's a nosecone under your diffuser.
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    Re: 2019 Chinese GP Hero's and Zero's
    « Reply #21 on: April 16, 2019, 02:35:29 AM »
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  • Had some trouble with my cable box this weekend,but finally watched the race.

    Heroes:

    Mercedes has running an F1 team down to a science.  For the future of the sport, in 2020 they need to disperse the major players at Mercedes to the other teams!

    The double stacked pit stop was just showing off, it was a thing of beauty, and I'm not sure what they can do to top it!

    Zeroes:

    Ferrari.  In the 90s and 2000s Todt ran Ferrari in a way that became the prototype of how to run a winning Formula One team.  Focus on reliability.  Focus on getting everyone on the same page.  Once you have those two things, everything else comes together.  They just haven't been the same since.

    Neither Hero nor Zero:  the 1000th F1 race wasn't the best of all time, but it wasn't a total snoozefest either.  We've been spoiled with a couple of interesting races to start 2019, so a fairly typical race just seems dull.  Bottas and LeClerc both made us think 2019 was going to be something new, but Lewis is determined to become the best of all time.

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    Re: 2019 Chinese GP Hero's and Zero's
    « Reply #22 on: April 16, 2019, 02:52:29 AM »
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  • Bottas and LeClerc both made us think 2019 was going to be something new, but Lewis is determined to become the best of all time.
    Well, Bottas may fall back into his "typical" quiet/friendly support role for Hamilton, but I don't feel the same outcome for LeClerc.  I can't believe he is looking to play a support role for Vettel and there will likely be some important team calls at Ferrari in the races ahead.

    As for the 1000th race, I think Sky Sports did EVERYTHING to subdue the event, partly as it's not the genuine 1000th F1 race (and they couldn't help but mention this several times, like a poor downplayed submission).

    Even Mr Liberty couldn't bring himself to mention it, as he just typically gave the old bla bla bla amazing event ... bla bla bla .... spectacular venue ... bla bla bla ... how does my mustache look on camera ... bla bla bla.


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    Re: 2019 Chinese GP Hero's and Zero's
    « Reply #23 on: April 16, 2019, 04:00:12 AM »
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  • Bottas and LeClerc both made us think 2019 was going to be something new, but Lewis is determined to become the best of all time.
    Well, Bottas may fall back into his "typical" quiet/friendly support role for Hamilton, but I don't feel the same outcome for LeClerc.  I can't believe he is looking to play a support role for Vettel and there will likely be some important team calls at Ferrari in the races ahead.

    As for the 1000th race, I think Sky Sports did EVERYTHING to subdue the event, partly as it's not the genuine 1000th F1 race (and they couldn't help but mention this several times, like a poor downplayed submission).

    Even Mr Liberty couldn't bring himself to mention it, as he just typically gave the old bla bla bla amazing event ... bla bla bla .... spectacular venue ... bla bla bla ... how does my mustache look on camera ... bla bla bla.


    Best Regards,
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    Speaking of mustaches as bad as Vettel looked in a beard
    he looks ten times worse in his stache. It needs to go
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    Re: 2019 Chinese GP Hero's and Zero's
    « Reply #24 on: April 16, 2019, 06:07:29 AM »
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  • Bottas and LeClerc both made us think 2019 was going to be something new, but Lewis is determined to become the best of all time.
    Well, Bottas may fall back into his "typical" quiet/friendly support role for Hamilton, but I don't feel the same outcome for LeClerc.  I can't believe he is looking to play a support role for Vettel and there will likely be some important team calls at Ferrari in the races ahead.

    As for the 1000th race, I think Sky Sports did EVERYTHING to subdue the event, partly as it's not the genuine 1000th F1 race (and they couldn't help but mention this several times, like a poor downplayed submission).

    Even Mr Liberty couldn't bring himself to mention it, as he just typically gave the old bla bla bla amazing event ... bla bla bla .... spectacular venue ... bla bla bla ... how does my mustache look on camera ... bla bla bla.


    Best Regards,
    Cal :)


    Speaking of mustaches as bad as Vettel looked in a beard
    he looks ten times worse in his stache. It needs to go

    Glad I am not alone in that assessment Dare!!! ...
    https://www.gpwizard.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,21604.msg134782.html#msg134782

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    Re: 2019 Chinese GP Hero's and Zero's
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  • Yeah, he’s starting to look like an 80’s porn star.  :DntKnw: :fool:
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    Re: 2019 Chinese GP Hero's and Zero's
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    Yeah, he’s starting to look like an 80’s porn star.
    Scott; you do realise that this says something about you.......? It says you are so old you were watching porn in the 80's  ;)

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  • Er, uh...don’t know what you’re talking about...really! :P
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  • Things are getting hairy in this topic now!!!  :-[

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    Re: 2019 Chinese GP Hero's and Zero's
    « Reply #29 on: April 16, 2019, 07:04:23 PM »
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  • I'm sure that Scott was just going by what he saw in the movie Boogie Nights.   ;)
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