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Author Topic: Hamilton Speaks Out on the State of F1  (Read 1138 times)

Offline Andy B

Re: Hamilton Speaks Out on the State of F1
« Reply #15 on: July 08, 2019, 10:21:56 PM »
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  • I definitely agree with Ail that any "dictator" would need to be competent. Brian France totally derailed the NASCAR juggernaut and ran the series into the ground. Roger Penske did the same to Indy racing in the CART era (which allowed NASCAR to fill the void & mushroom into the dominate American series.)

    John mentioned taking away power steering. That might be something to try. IndyCar doesn't have it and I haven't heard any of the drivers complain. Not even the former F1 drivers.

    I'd love for F1 and IndyCar to homogenize, so that IndyCar teams can be F1 customers (and maybe, but not likely, vice versa)  It spreads the costs of F1, it stops Indy from being a single make series, it allows drivers to move back and forth between series easily.  (I know that CART got into trouble trying to get into F1's turf, but if IndyCar sticks to North America, I think it's good to have a semi-unified open wheel.

    Naturally there are million political problems, but there's really no reason for the cars to be similar but different.

    That would never work if ten teams from the same series cannot agree then a joint series with even more teams would be impossible.
    Also for me it would detract from F1 I don't and never have watched US motorsport especially ovals I've never seen the attraction.
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    Offline Alianora La Canta

    Re: Hamilton Speaks Out on the State of F1
    « Reply #16 on: July 08, 2019, 11:58:25 PM »
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  • I liken this phenomenon to the lack of typing schools now, until the eighties and beyond youngsters were taught how to use a typewriter or keyboard, often as stepping stone to a job, now every kid in school has been using a keyboard/pad since 1st grade is self taught and pretty expert at typing by end of schooldays.   

    Most colleges in Britain still have typing classes (rebranded as Administration Level 1/2/3 - I have most of the certificates available of this category), as the majority of administrative roles consider the skill level obtained by students through the school system inadequete - and with the increase in mobile computing and thus decreasing faith in school and home environment to provide these skills, they've become more heavily subscribed. The courses were also looked upon favourably in the IT support job I currently have, though having now worked in the sector 5 years, employers no longer check that side of my qualifications to confirm I can type fast enough.
    « Last Edit: July 09, 2019, 12:00:13 AM by Alianora La Canta »
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    Offline John S

    Re: Hamilton Speaks Out on the State of F1
    « Reply #17 on: July 09, 2019, 12:43:55 PM »
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  • I liken this phenomenon to the lack of typing schools now, until the eighties and beyond youngsters were taught how to use a typewriter or keyboard, often as stepping stone to a job, now every kid in school has been using a keyboard/pad since 1st grade is self taught and pretty expert at typing by end of schooldays.   

    Most colleges in Britain still have typing classes (rebranded as Administration Level 1/2/3 - I have most of the certificates available of this category), as the majority of administrative roles consider the skill level obtained by students through the school system inadequete - and with the increase in mobile computing and thus decreasing faith in school and home environment to provide these skills, they've become more heavily subscribed. The courses were also looked upon favourably in the IT support job I currently have, though having now worked in the sector 5 years, employers no longer check that side of my qualifications to confirm I can type fast enough.

    I stand corrected for the 2nd time in 2 days,  :-[  thanks for that updating Alia.  ;)

    I still stand by my premise though.
    My main point is that technology in the hands of youngsters has changed their skillset immeasurably from my young days.
     
    I hope these admin courses also check/improve grammar, spelling and simple arithmetic as well, these can be atrocious amongst a whole heap of secondary education leavers now.

    I'm sure also a lot of it is to keep students in education longer, no one is allowed to leave school now without college, training or a job.

    The typing schools I was speaking of were preparing people for full time jobs doing nothing but typing, no real creativity asked for, in the main everyone these days has to do their own typing or word processing as well their appointed job. My main point was that technology in the hands of youngsters has changed their skillset immeasurably from my young days. 

    I guess IT/Admin roles may have replaced/enhanced touch typing specialists in the workplace. 

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    Offline Alianora La Canta

    Re: Hamilton Speaks Out on the State of F1
    « Reply #18 on: July 09, 2019, 05:38:39 PM »
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  • I liken this phenomenon to the lack of typing schools now, until the eighties and beyond youngsters were taught how to use a typewriter or keyboard, often as stepping stone to a job, now every kid in school has been using a keyboard/pad since 1st grade is self taught and pretty expert at typing by end of schooldays.   

    Most colleges in Britain still have typing classes (rebranded as Administration Level 1/2/3 - I have most of the certificates available of this category), as the majority of administrative roles consider the skill level obtained by students through the school system inadequete - and with the increase in mobile computing and thus decreasing faith in school and home environment to provide these skills, they've become more heavily subscribed. The courses were also looked upon favourably in the IT support job I currently have, though having now worked in the sector 5 years, employers no longer check that side of my qualifications to confirm I can type fast enough.

    I stand corrected for the 2nd time in 2 days,  :-[  thanks for that updating Alia.  ;)

    I still stand by my premise though.
    My main point is that technology in the hands of youngsters has changed their skillset immeasurably from my young days.
     
    I hope these admin courses also check/improve grammar, spelling and simple arithmetic as well, these can be atrocious amongst a whole heap of secondary education leavers now.

    I'm sure also a lot of it is to keep students in education longer, no one is allowed to leave school now without college, training or a job.

    The typing schools I was speaking of were preparing people for full time jobs doing nothing but typing, no real creativity asked for, in the main everyone these days has to do their own typing or word processing as well their appointed job. My main point was that technology in the hands of youngsters has changed their skillset immeasurably from my young days. 

    I guess IT/Admin roles may have replaced/enhanced touch typing specialists in the workplace.

    Grammar and spelling, definitely (and some of my fellow Level 1 students were atrocious when they started - a couple had to resit because they needed too long to correct their errors to hit the necessary speed).

    Arithmetic (or any other variety of maths)? Not so much. GCSE Maths is still commonly demanded in such jobs but because GCSE Maths doesn't really test for that (it assumes arithmetic, starting its testing at algebra level), there are still some shocking misconceptions and slowness in mental arithmetic. The adult who wishes to seriously address this would need a Level 1 Mathematics course (typically taken by people who aren't ready for the GCSE).
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    Offline lkjohnson1950

    Re: Hamilton Speaks Out on the State of F1
    « Reply #19 on: July 17, 2019, 03:26:53 AM »
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  • Lewis had something to say about track choice. He doesn't like Zandvoort.

    https://www.gptours.com/gr_news/f1-selecting-tracks-for-money-not-racing/
    Lonny

    Offline Jericoke

    Re: Hamilton Speaks Out on the State of F1
    « Reply #20 on: July 17, 2019, 03:01:31 PM »
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  • Lewis had something to say about track choice. He doesn't like Zandvoort.

    https://www.gptours.com/gr_news/f1-selecting-tracks-for-money-not-racing/

    Ideally every track would be both easy for fans to access AND provide great racing.

    Reality is, having both isn't always possible.  Ideally if you put on a good show, people will go out of their way for it. 

    Indianapolis is a good sized city, but it's not a major population center, yet they run the largest single sporting event (in terms of bums in seats) in the world.  People will travel to see a good race.

    The 'Max stands' at races all over the world are filled every weekend.  People will travel to see the drivers they want to see.

    Put on a show that people want to see.  Have drivers/teams/personalities that people want to see, and they'll go wherever the F1 circus goes.

    Offline cosworth151

    Re: Hamilton Speaks Out on the State of F1
    « Reply #21 on: July 17, 2019, 03:20:16 PM »
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    It is believed he is referring to Zandvoort

    It doesn't say that he actually said Zanvoort. I wonder if he's actually talking about the street circuit at Hanoi. Street circuits are known for their poor quality of racing.

    Indy is within easy driving distance of well over half of the U.S. population. It's also a hub of the Interstate Highway system.
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    Offline lkjohnson1950

    Re: Hamilton Speaks Out on the State of F1
    « Reply #22 on: July 17, 2019, 10:21:09 PM »
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  • At the time the 500 was created, Indy was an auto manufacturing center as well.
    Lonny

    Offline Alianora La Canta

    Re: Hamilton Speaks Out on the State of F1
    « Reply #23 on: July 18, 2019, 09:57:41 PM »
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  • Silverstone is not easy to get to for someone relying on public transport on F1 weekend, because the bus service stops in Towcester 4 miles away all weekend. (I can walk that and have done so on WEC Sundays, when the same thing happens, but lots of people can't). On the other hand, it's a doddle to get to for anyone with a car, ever since the A43 bypass (nicknamed "Eddie Jordan's driveway" when it first opened) opened in 2003.

    Spa is of course a classic example of a race that is a nightmare to get to on public transport but has awesome racing. Sao Paulo is no better, for all that it's in the middle of a city, because said city was not designed with public transport in mind.

    Monza is easy to access but often becomes a fight of the best engine. Monaco is also easy, but often becomes a fight of the best concentrator. Spain is easy to access, but tends to be a battle of the best all-rounder.

    The Red Bull Ring is, to me, a good example of a place that often has decent racing and is also reasonably accessible with public transport. Montreal can take a bow because it is arguably an even better example on both counts. The Hungaroring wouldn't be, except that there are free official F1 buses that take people to the bottom of the hill where the main entrance is situated.

    Technically, the Max stands are advertised as "Red Bull" stands, aren't reserved by Red Bull or any entity associated with them. and don't ban other supporters from using them. The Hungaroring one, for example, is quite popular with non-Max fans because it's the cheapest grandstand available and has a good view of the last corner complex. It's just that Max fans are well-organised and are apt to mass-book as soon as the spaces become available. Hence the mass of orange. (I'm pleased to report the ones I met at the Hungaroring were good to talk to last year. I've also seen a tweet that a Leclerc fan in the de facto Verstappen grandstand last race, where all the fans were happy for each other at the appropriate parts of the battle).
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    Offline cosworth151

    Re: Hamilton Speaks Out on the State of F1
    « Reply #24 on: July 19, 2019, 03:25:39 PM »
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  • Indy is very accessible. Public transport was good & there were many reasonably priced (in F1 terms) motels within a couple of miles.

    The budget motel I stayed at for the Indy USGP's was an easy walk to the track, with Speedway Donuts conveniently located about halfway. Still, I'd drive Thursday, Friday & Saturday so I could use the car as "base camp."
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