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Author Topic: Now had the Covid Vaccination jab  (Read 2251 times)

Offline Andy B

Re: Now had the Covid Vaccination jab
« Reply #15 on: April 25, 2021, 10:20:52 PM »
Switzerland has completely botched the vaccine rollout. 

Here in NZ the rollout is soooooooo slow and then it's reported that 5700 vaccine doses have been wasted by people not turning up!
I find that remarkable why would you not turn up?
For perspective 5700 is a significant number with a population of 5 mill.
Once you have retired every day is a Saturday!

Offline Jericoke

Re: Now had the Covid Vaccination jab
« Reply #16 on: April 26, 2021, 01:47:36 AM »
Switzerland has completely botched the vaccine rollout. 

Here in NZ the rollout is soooooooo slow and then it's reported that 5700 vaccine doses have been wasted by people not turning up!
I find that remarkable why would you not turn up?
For perspective 5700 is a significant number with a population of 5 mill.

The rollout in Ontario (the Canadian province I live in) is being done on a location by location basis. So you can sign up with as many locations as you want, then you go to the first one that says they have a shot ready for you.  In theory, I could get thirty calls in one day saying they're ready for me.  All 30 shots would sit and wait until I show up, or cancel.  I haven't heard of any being wasted, but I assume it's a matter of time before those numbers start to come out.

(We also had an all day outage of one of our biggest phone companies, so it was hard to book appointments, which required telephone confirmation)

Offline Alianora La Canta

Re: Now had the Covid Vaccination jab
« Reply #17 on: April 26, 2021, 09:16:52 AM »
Switzerland has completely botched the vaccine rollout. 

Here in NZ the rollout is soooooooo slow and then it's reported that 5700 vaccine doses have been wasted by people not turning up!
I find that remarkable why would you not turn up?
For perspective 5700 is a significant number with a population of 5 mill.

Several reasons I've heard (I'd like to clarify beforehand that I believe every single one is either something a reasonable system and reasonable health service users should have anticipated... ...or complete tosh):

- You got it from somewhere else (some systems have had problems with people being auto-issued duplicate invites, others with no good way to back out of an appointment if received earlier)

- You can't make the appointment issued and there's no way to reschedule (the UK has had this to some extent - particularly with people unable to get time off work at short notice - but has a system to ensure doses are unlikely to be wasted)

- You think you don't need it now (NZ has lifted most of its restrictions, and in the UK even small increases in freedom have led to disproportionately large decreases in the perceived threat level/importance of COVID-19)

- You are worried about vaccine escape and potentially futility (wrongly, since no variant has total escape and some have zero vaccine escape).

- You've seen the UK officially leave pandemic status due to vaccines, look at the fact it has had numerous other COVID-related problems, assume this is one more inaccurate statement and wonder what disaster's being hidden this time (I've seen this from some non-UK contacts)

- You aren't ready psychologically for the vaccine (some people want more information about the vaccine to be comfortable taking it, either because they don't have/know how to effectively use the internet for this purpose or due to the vaccine being an emergency-use rather than mainline vaccine (thus having more question marks on certain matters e.g. long-term effects). Some GPs have taken to calling everyone who misses an appointment or indicates they wish to miss it, to have a 10-20 minute conversation about it. This has so far (anecdontally) been 95-97% effective in persuading people to accept and attend vaccine appointments).

- You are anti-vaxx (about 8% of people in the UK are anti-vaxx in general, but usually the general population doesn't care much due to herd immunity). Probably not the main factor in NZ, else I'd expect a lot more appointments to have been missed (5700 is not even 1% of the population, and I think NZ's had more than 1% worth of first doses).
Percussus resurgio
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Offline Andy B

Re: Now had the Covid Vaccination jab
« Reply #18 on: April 27, 2021, 10:09:09 PM »
Ali.
The 5700 is just <1% of the population but you have to take into account that only 2% are vaccinated, it is reasonable to assume a percentage would not have made the appointment for a good reason but I am led to believe that if a call is received to say you cannot make it then that dose can be used on anyone who want's it. It probably is a case that because we are and have been Covid free for so long there is a lethargy to peoples approach.
My wife and I, very royal, have ours booked for the 11th May and I expect to be given the date of the second at that time.

I'm now off on a two day motorcycle ride. Bye for now.
Once you have retired every day is a Saturday!

Offline Dare

Re: Now had the Covid Vaccination jab
« Reply #19 on: April 29, 2021, 01:22:18 AM »
Many people here in the US aren't getting their second shot.
They may have fears about it or figure if everyone else gets
there's I'll be safe anyway. Same for mask wearing. There a
inconvenience but if it keeps you safe what's the harm.
"The
democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those
who are
willing to work and give to those who would not."
--
Thomas
Jefferson

Offline cosworth151

Re: Now had the Covid Vaccination jab
« Reply #20 on: April 29, 2021, 02:11:23 PM »
A large number of the folks I know around here are still saying that the pandemic is a fake because Trump & Fox News say it is.
“You can search the world over for the finer things, but you won't find a match for the American road and the creatures that live on it.”
― Bob Dylan

Offline lkjohnson1950

Re: Now had the Covid Vaccination jab
« Reply #21 on: April 29, 2021, 04:30:07 PM »
There is no cure for willfully stupid.
Lonny

Offline Alianora La Canta

Re: Now had the Covid Vaccination jab
« Reply #22 on: April 29, 2021, 04:52:54 PM »
Potentially 1/3 of the doses wasted is a lot, in that case.

Here, doses for people who cancel are used on whoever can get there on short notice. If GPs can't give it to someone both local and eligible, they'll give it to someone local but not techically eligible. As a result, most shots that weren't given to someone missing an appointment ended up in people's arms, just not always the planned ones.

Parts of New Zealand are rural and might have difficulty getting people in at short notice, though. Especially with a "lethargy to people's approach".

Enjoy the motorbike ride!
Percussus resurgio
@lacanta (Twitter)
http://alianoralacanta.tumblr.com (Blog/Tumblr)

Offline Andy B

Re: Now had the Covid Vaccination jab
« Reply #23 on: April 30, 2021, 04:56:20 AM »

Enjoy the motorbike ride!

A great ride 670 kms over two days I need to go more often!
Once you have retired every day is a Saturday!

Offline Dare

Re: Now had the Covid Vaccination jab
« Reply #24 on: April 30, 2021, 11:28:23 PM »
A large number of the folks I know around here are still saying that the pandemic is a fake because Trump & Fox News say it is.


I know the type. One told me I probably had the
flu. Too bad those aren't the ones that  catch it.

Their the same ones that think the election was rigged.
Maybe his highness will be tied up in court for years to come
"The
democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those
who are
willing to work and give to those who would not."
--
Thomas
Jefferson

Offline Ian

Re: Now had the Covid Vaccination jab
« Reply #25 on: May 04, 2021, 11:13:29 PM »
Thank gawd had both of mine.  :yahoo:
An aircraft landing is just a controlled crash.

Offline Scott

Re: Now had the Covid Vaccination jab
« Reply #26 on: May 05, 2021, 06:56:02 PM »
I get my first on Friday  :yahoo: :yahoo:
The Honey Badger doesn't give a...

Offline Alianora La Canta

Re: Now had the Covid Vaccination jab
« Reply #27 on: May 27, 2021, 06:14:29 PM »
Forgot to mention: got my first jab a week last Saturday. I had Pfizer, and had to have oxygen for a few minutes afterwards.

Second dose at the end of July.
Percussus resurgio
@lacanta (Twitter)
http://alianoralacanta.tumblr.com (Blog/Tumblr)

Offline cosworth151

Re: Now had the Covid Vaccination jab
« Reply #28 on: May 28, 2021, 02:02:12 PM »
Here in Ohio, the governor has started the Vax-A-Million program. any Ohioan who has had at least one shot may register. People 18 years and older can win $1 million. Folks 14-17 can win a full, 4 year collage scholarship. There will be one drawing for each group per week for 5 weeks.

Yes, I am registered!

https://www.ohiovaxamillion.com/
“You can search the world over for the finer things, but you won't find a match for the American road and the creatures that live on it.”
― Bob Dylan

Offline lkjohnson1950

Re: Now had the Covid Vaccination jab
« Reply #29 on: May 28, 2021, 05:09:32 PM »
A friend of mine in California says they have a similar thing going on.
Lonny

 


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