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Author Topic: cost of Perez's shunt  (Read 53027 times)

Offline Dare



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Offline lkjohnson1950

Re: cost of Perez's shunt
« Reply #1 on: May 28, 2024, 03:25:16 AM »
How much of that is money already spent for spares hanging on the wall or stored on a shelf or in a drawer back at HQ? Does he mean out of pocket or removed from inventory? Do they not have to count the spare monocoque if they don't use it?
Lonny

Offline John S

Re: cost of Perez's shunt
« Reply #2 on: May 28, 2024, 12:52:58 PM »
When they use a spare monocoque Lonny they have to build another spare in case of further shunts, so it hardly matters whether cost of spare is in budget or not because price of one monocoque will be added come what may. 

Presumably all teams run a contingency amount in budget for happenings like this, too many big shunts though will lead to loss of money for newly developed parts eventually in a season. Could make the difference between winning a championship in a really competitive year.

We haven't seen a down to the wire season yet in new cost cap era. Maybe it happens this year.  :DntKnw:
Racing is Life - everything else is just....waiting. (Steve McQueen)

Offline Jericoke

Re: cost of Perez's shunt
« Reply #3 on: May 28, 2024, 07:07:08 PM »
It's certainly tough to put a dollar value on these things, as you're paying for manpower more so than materials.  The cars need to be broken down and rebuilt between races anyway.  Who knows how many Monaco parts were planned to be on the Canada version of the RBR?  How many reserve parts are there that need to be replenished?

I do think there might be a way to create non cap fund for repairing cars.  Like all teams, or FOM or FIA pays into it and that's how teams pay for repairs (for crashes that were officially 'not their fault').  Any left over funds at the end of the season go into FIA's charitable endeavors.  It allows teams to focus on development, and make sure they're paying their staff as much as they can, rather than holding on to a reserve that presumably goes back to whoever owns the team when not spent.

Offline lkjohnson1950

Re: cost of Perez's shunt
« Reply #4 on: May 28, 2024, 07:29:18 PM »
Don't know if they still do it, but teams used to build Monaco only front suspension parts because the hairpin is so tight they needed more lock than at any other track.
Lonny

Offline lkjohnson1950

Re: cost of Perez's shunt
« Reply #5 on: May 28, 2024, 07:31:11 PM »
Just had a thought, Max has been really unhappy with his car, so do they build the new one for him and give Perez his old one?
Lonny

Offline Alianora La Canta

Re: cost of Perez's shunt
« Reply #6 on: May 30, 2024, 06:21:49 PM »
Just had a thought, Max has been really unhappy with his car, so do they build the new one for him and give Perez his old one?

1) Perez has good lawyers
2) They have diametrically opposite driving styles
3) Perez is likely to be unhappier with Verstappen's cast-offs than his own, given they're the same basic spec
4) Perez isn't complaining about his car, but other factors (such as his luck, traffic and not always making the best of his opportunities)
Percussus resurgio
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Offline John S

Re: cost of Perez's shunt
« Reply #7 on: May 31, 2024, 07:49:50 PM »
Just had a thought, Max has been really unhappy with his car, so do they build the new one for him and give Perez his old one?

1) Perez has good lawyers
2) They have diametrically opposite driving styles
3) Perez is likely to be unhappier with Verstappen's cast-offs than his own, given they're the same basic spec
4) Perez isn't complaining about his car, but other factors (such as his luck, traffic and not always making the best of his opportunities)

Oh you forgot to mention Numero Cinco, Alia.  :D

5) Perez is not on same level of performance to Max so can't handle his cast offs.  :DD
Racing is Life - everything else is just....waiting. (Steve McQueen)

Offline Alianora La Canta

Re: cost of Perez's shunt
« Reply #8 on: June 04, 2024, 08:09:23 PM »
Oh you forgot to mention Numero Cinco, Alia.  :D

5) Perez is not on same level of performance to Max so can't handle his cast offs.  :DD

Considering Perez prefers understeer and Max oversteer, this is quite plausible.
Percussus resurgio
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