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Author Topic: The F1 movie: More on tech helping make it, budget, & real race action included.  (Read 2468 times)

Offline John S

Using best camera tech and in race footage to give new movie an authentic feel plus budget helped by on car sponsors says film maker.

Wonder though if it will get cinema release along with Apple TV release, or will most of us have to wait another year to view it?

Well worth a read on link below though:-

https://www.motorsportmagazine.com/articles/single-seaters/f1/how-brad-pitts-f1-film-was-made-the-cameras-locations-and-budget/


Racing is Life - everything else is just....waiting. (Steve McQueen)

Offline Dare

Most of the time here on streaming apps the movie shows
first at theaters then depending on how it did at the box office
it becomes available to rent or buy a month later. Then to see on
a streaming sitea little later.
Mark Twain once opined, "it's easier to con someone than to convince them they've been conned."

"When a rich man robs a poor man, it is called business. When a poor man fights back, it's called violence."
Mark Twain

Offline Jericoke

Most of the time here on streaming apps the movie shows
first at theaters then depending on how it did at the box office
it becomes available to rent or buy a month later. Then to see on
a streaming sitea little later.

The streaming service produced movies have been a little squirrelly about giving their movies wide movie theatre releases.  If the movie underperforms, then bad word of mouth means people might skip it on streaming too.  Further, part of the reason they make the movies is to get people to sign up for the streaming service itself.

Even having Brad Pitt is no guarantee of the movie getting a wide release.  Wolfs with Pitt and George Clooney was meant to have a wide theatrical release, and at the last minute Apple pulled it, giving it a limited release (probably contracts they couldn't get out of) and focused on a streaming release.  I was planning to see the movie, but I haven't watched it yet.  If Apple wasn't excited about it, why should I be?

Given F1 has a lot of hands in the pot, it might be harder for Apple to change their release strategy.  Liberty has a lot to gain from a wide release bringing attention to the sport.  Lewis Hamilton is a mega brand, and if Apple jerks him around, other mega athletes will notice and decide accordingly when they're approached to be involved in large media projects.

For those interested in Cinema/Economic history, there used to be something called 'The Studio System' where a single company would make movies and then show them exclusively at their own chain of theatres.  They had exclusive contracts with talent to only make movies for them.  The (American) government declared the system illegal, but we're very very close to having the same system in place now with streaming services.

Offline cosworth151

It makes me wonder if might some of the racing scenes might not look so good being show on a big theater screen.

Back in 1966 John Frankenheimer made use of rebodied Formula Junior cars in his classic racing film Grand Prix. A Lotus 20 that had been used as a Yamura (what Hondas were called in the film) was a regular at car shows around here for several years. It wore its original Lotus body at that time. If memory serves the owner at the time also had the movie body in his possession.
“You can search the world over for the finer things, but you won't find a match for the American road and the creatures that live on it.”
― Bob Dylan

Offline Jericoke

It makes me wonder if might some of the racing scenes might not look so good being show on a big theater screen.

Back in 1966 John Frankenheimer made use of rebodied Formula Junior cars in his classic racing film Grand Prix. A Lotus 20 that had been used as a Yamura (what Hondas were called in the film) was a regular at car shows around here for several years. It wore its original Lotus body at that time. If memory serves the owner at the time also had the movie body in his possession.

I know this might get me kicked from the site, but I've yet to see Grand Prix, despite hearing so much about how fantastic it is.

There's no reason I haven't seen it other I just haven't made the time to.  If it's half as good as Frankenheimer's Ronin then I know I'll love it.

(I've noticed that movie reviews bring a lot of views to the site, I don't know if those are bots, or just from 'The Algorithm'.  I should watch and review Grand Prix, since interest in it is bound to grow as the release for F1 comes near.

Offline Dare

Most of the time here on streaming apps the movie shows
first at theaters then depending on how it did at the box office
it becomes available to rent or buy a month later. Then to see on
a streaming sitea little later.

The streaming service produced movies have been a little squirrelly about giving their movies wide movie theatre releases.  If the movie underperforms, then bad word of mouth means people might skip it on streaming too.  Further, part of the reason they make the movies is to get people to sign up for the streaming service itself.

Even having Brad Pitt is no guarantee of the movie getting a wide release.  Wolfs with Pitt and George Clooney was meant to have a wide theatrical release, and at the last minute Apple pulled it, giving it a limited release (probably contracts they couldn't get out of) and focused on a streaming release.  I was planning to see the movie, but I haven't watched it yet.  If Apple wasn't excited about it, why should I be?

Given F1 has a lot of hands in the pot, it might be harder for Apple to change their release strategy.  Liberty has a lot to gain from a wide release bringing attention to the sport.  Lewis Hamilton is a mega brand, and if Apple jerks him around, other mega athletes will notice and decide accordingly when they're approached to be involved in large media projects.

For those interested in Cinema/Economic history, there used to be something called 'The Studio System' where a single company would make movies and then show them exclusively at their own chain of theatres.  They had exclusive contracts with talent to only make movies for them.  The (American) government declared the system illegal, but we're very very close to having the same system in place now with streaming services.
Mark Twain once opined, "it's easier to con someone than to convince them they've been conned."

"When a rich man robs a poor man, it is called business. When a poor man fights back, it's called violence."
Mark Twain

Offline Dare

Most of the time here on streaming apps the movie shows
first at theaters then depending on how it did at the box office
it becomes available to rent or buy a month later. Then to see on
a streaming sitea little later.

The streaming service produced movies have been a little squirrelly about giving their movies wide movie theatre releases.  If the movie underperforms, then bad word of mouth means people might skip it on streaming too.  Further, part of the reason they make the movies is to get people to sign up for the streaming service itself.

Even having Brad Pitt is no guarantee of the movie getting a wide release.  Wolfs with Pitt and George Clooney was meant to have a wide theatrical release, and at the last minute Apple pulled it, giving it a limited release (probably contracts they couldn't get out of) and focused on a streaming release.  I was planning to see the movie, but I haven't watched it yet.  If Apple wasn't excited about it, why should I be?

Given F1 has a lot of hands in the pot, it might be harder for Apple to change their release strategy.  Liberty has a lot to gain from a wide release bringing attention to the sport.  Lewis Hamilton is a mega brand, and if Apple jerks him around, other mega athletes will notice and decide accordingly when they're approached to be involved in large media projects.

For those interested in Cinema/Economic history, there used to be something called 'The Studio System' where a single company would make movies and then show them exclusively at their own chain of theatres.  They had exclusive contracts with talent to only make movies for them.  The (American) government declared the system illegal, but we're very very close to having the same system in place now with streaming services.


Gladiator 2 was made by a major studio and was shown on Paramount+ a few months after it screen release. Avatar 2 was another
Mark Twain once opined, "it's easier to con someone than to convince them they've been conned."

"When a rich man robs a poor man, it is called business. When a poor man fights back, it's called violence."
Mark Twain

Offline John S

That's what I love about GPWizard, everyone steams in about the sad state of affairs in the Film/Streaming business or talks about previous F1 movie 'Grand Prix' & no one so far has mentioned the new longer video preview of the up coming F1 film.  :D

What a strange lot we are, - but it's so cool.  :good: 
Racing is Life - everything else is just....waiting. (Steve McQueen)

Offline Jericoke

That's what I love about GPWizard, everyone steams in about the sad state of affairs in the Film/Streaming business or talks about previous F1 movie 'Grand Prix' & no one so far has mentioned the new longer video preview of the up coming F1 film.  :D

What a strange lot we are, - but it's so cool.  :good:

We're F1 fans.  Trailers and previews are like pre season testing:  might give a hint of what's to come, but nothing exciting compared to the main event!

Offline cosworth151

One thing is starting to worry me about this thing. They make a big point of comparing it to their recent film Top Gun: Maverick. Right after the original Top Gun hit big they announced that they were going to do a racing movie. We all got very excited, jumped on the release of every trailer, etc. It was Days of Thunder. About the only good thing I can say about it is that it was better than Stallone's CART movie Driven.
“You can search the world over for the finer things, but you won't find a match for the American road and the creatures that live on it.”
― Bob Dylan

Offline Jericoke

One thing is starting to worry me about this thing. They make a big point of comparing it to their recent film Top Gun: Maverick. Right after the original Top Gun hit big they announced that they were going to do a racing movie. We all got very excited, jumped on the release of every trailer, etc. It was Days of Thunder. About the only good thing I can say about it is that it was better than Stallone's CART movie Driven.

I will not apologize for enjoying Days of Thunder.  The relationship between Michael Rooker's and Tom Cruise's characters to this day makes me feel that's how racecar drivers feel about each other.  Mortal frenemies.

(I've never seen Driven.  But watching an indycar* drive through the open streets of Toronto in the trailer told me enough.)

*Yes, I know it's a CART car and tehnically not an IndyCar.  In Toronto that class of racing was known as IndyCar at the time, since the name of the race remained 'Molson (Toronto) Indy', even though it was a CART race and not an IRL race.  Whatever legalese open wheel racing had in the USA didn't seem to affect Canada.

Offline Dare

One that I thought was good but overlooked was Winning with Paul Newman
Mark Twain once opined, "it's easier to con someone than to convince them they've been conned."

"When a rich man robs a poor man, it is called business. When a poor man fights back, it's called violence."
Mark Twain

Offline cosworth151

Absolutely agree with you about Winning, Dare. In some ways it is to Indy racing what Grand Prix is to F1. Many of the actual drivers of day are featured in it. Besides IMS, it also has racing scenes at Road America, Indy Raceway Park (now Lucas Raceway) and the legendary Riverside International Raceway. It also features some USAC Stock Car Series racing.

It's also had a major effect on racing. Paul Newman turned out to be a very good race drive, fell in love with racing and started Newman-Haas Racing with Carl Haas.
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Note about Driven - It was supposed to be about F1. Bernie took one look and said no way. So did NASCAR, IRL (IndyCar) and ALMS (IMSA). CART/Champ Car finally said yes. However, you'll notice that most of the main characters are based on F1 folk of the day. That why the team owner played by Burt Reynolds is in a wheel chair. Did you ever picture The Bandit as Sir Frank?  :confused:
“You can search the world over for the finer things, but you won't find a match for the American road and the creatures that live on it.”
― Bob Dylan

 


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