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Re: British GP at Donnington from 2010
« Reply #15 on: July 06, 2008, 06:54:48 PM »
Donington are going to have a real job getting their track done in time

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Re: British GP at Donnington from 2010
« Reply #16 on: July 08, 2008, 12:39:50 PM »
taking all the excellent postings on this thread methinks something is quite rotten in the State of Donington!
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Re: British GP at Donnington from 2010
« Reply #17 on: July 08, 2008, 06:43:44 PM »
bernie has said that if donington is not ready in time then there will be no british race

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Re: British GP at Donnington from 2010
« Reply #18 on: July 08, 2008, 07:23:51 PM »
This is just Bernies way of getting rid of the British Grand Prix, Donnington has a heck of a lot of work to do and Bernie is betting that it won't be done in time.
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Re: British GP at Donnington from 2010
« Reply #19 on: July 08, 2008, 07:28:00 PM »
it seems like bernie isn't confident about the races he puts on

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Re: British GP at Donnington from 2010
« Reply #20 on: July 09, 2008, 10:31:02 AM »
Basically, we have a very ambitious venture capital company that may have overestimated its capabilities.
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Re: British GP at Donnington from 2010
« Reply #21 on: July 09, 2008, 06:55:19 PM »
Like I said earlier in the thread it's Brands Hatch take 2  :crazy:
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Re: British GP at Donnington from 2010
« Reply #22 on: July 10, 2008, 09:47:36 AM »
Like I said earlier in the thread it's Brands Hatch take 2  :crazy:

I'm calling it another Bernie Bluff.

I can't realistically see the British GP going anywhere but Silverstone.

Would somebody please explain to me what it is that Bernie really wants. Or can't he even answer that one himself.
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Re: British GP at Donnington from 2010
« Reply #23 on: July 10, 2008, 10:09:44 AM »
Like I said earlier in the thread it's Brands Hatch take 2  :crazy:

I'm calling it another Bernie Bluff.

I can't realistically see the British GP going anywhere but Silverstone.

Would somebody please explain to me what it is that Bernie really wants. Or can't he even answer that one himself.

easy to answer JB - another boring herman TILKE $200 Millions plus, designed track in some hellish country that has money to burn 'coz they don't give a fig for their downtrodden subjects and would rather cough up plenty of dosh to Bernie, thinking this somehow makes them a power and a country worthy of recognition.

And of course the 'stunted one' gets a cut of the cost of the new facility plus much increased fees for bringing the 'circus' to a grateful regime.

follow the money..ooops....shekels mate and to hell with the glorious legacy, spirit and history of F1:

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Re: British GP at Donnington from 2010
« Reply #24 on: July 10, 2008, 11:41:35 AM »
johnbull, Bernie wants money. Simple. He doesn't care about the rest.
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Re: British GP at Donnington from 2010
« Reply #25 on: July 10, 2008, 12:58:49 PM »
Bernie has spotted a mug who thinks he can put a race on at a circuit that can't hand the crowd at a World Series by Renault race.  The mug has signed a contract that he will no doubt have to pay Bernie a few million to get out of and at the same time Bernie's mate Tilke gets to pick up a few quid and Bernie gets to apply pressure to the BRDC.

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Re: British GP at Donington from 2010
« Reply #26 on: July 10, 2008, 01:35:20 PM »
I love Silverstone and consider it to be the home of the British GP, however, Bernie has fired enough warning shots across their bow for them to do something about the circuit and yet it remains the same.

If Donington has backing of £100m over the next 5 years then we really could see a circuit to rival the likes of Bahrain etc, and personally I would welcome that. It will be interesting to see Donnington's 'Master Plan' as I for one would love to know exactly what they're proposing.
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Re: British GP at Donnington from 2010
« Reply #27 on: July 10, 2008, 02:03:08 PM »
They've still got to get it past the council, and that will be almost as difficult for Donington as it was for Silverstone.
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Re: British GP at Donnington from 2010
« Reply #28 on: July 10, 2008, 03:22:13 PM »
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I love Silverstone and consider it to be the home of the British GP, however, Bernie has fired enough warning shots across their bow for them to do something about the circuit and yet it remains the same.

I agree that Silverstone is the real home of the British GP but I can't really agree that it 'remains the same'. They spent millions on the access roads, car parks, run-off areas. It is a vastly improved track. Although I don't actually like Silverstone it offers better facilities than any other track in the UK and in all honesty it is much better than many of the European tracks that still hold GP's.
Although Donnington is a great track for the moto GP, I can easily believe that it will require £100million to bring it up to F1 standards and in doing this it may ruin the track for the bikes. This brings into question how Donnington will make money in the future. It's biggest income at the moment comes from Moto GP, BSB and BTTC. If in trying to win the F1 GP it loses the moto GP it will be financially no better off. How will it ever pay-off the £100million debt. As a business Donnington will be so heavily geared I can't see how it could survive.

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Re: British GP at Donnington from 2010
« Reply #29 on: July 10, 2008, 05:51:18 PM »
Good points Monty, the access roads have been greatly improved from years gone by. I still have nightmares from thousands of cars driving through small villages trying to get in and out after a race.  :(

Has the parking improved? I was one of the poor spectators who (nearly) got suck in the mud a few years back. Silverstone invited me as a guest last year (sadly not for the GP) and whilst I got the grand tour I didn't see any improvements in parking, just the usual fields roped off with string. Having said that, I have never been to a circuit with anything substantially better.

I totally agree that it remains one of best circuits in the UK for facilities, but I also believe it is not good enough to represent the 'Home of Motorsport' when the F1 circus comes to town. Things have moved on and I desperately wish they would improve things and keep F1 at Silverstone, but alas I think this ship may have sailed in Bernie's eyes. Many European circuits may suffer the same fate if they do not invest wisely and keep up with the eastern countries.

The important thing is we keep a British GP, (imagine the national anthem playing in the background), and I for one will support it no matter where it is held. We should be proud of our motorsport heritage and set an example for the rest of the world to follow.

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