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Author Topic: High fuel prices are a benefit!  (Read 1773 times)

Offline Wizzo

High fuel prices are a benefit!
« on: July 10, 2008, 12:58:42 PM »

Brown says soaring fuel prices are for our own good!  >:D

Gordon Brown thinks that record fuel costs and driving taxes will benefit motorists in the long run, it has been reported. The Prime Minister also wants to get all petrol-driven cars off Britain’s roads by 2020.  :fool:

He is taking a high-risk strategy at the G8 Summit in an attempt to show that Britain can lead the way on green motoring issues. Part of his plan is apparently to push for all vehicles to be electric or hybrid within 12 years. :DD

He is also standing behind the idea that high taxes on motorists and spiralling fuel costs will be an affective way of stopping people driving petrol cars. This appears to suggest that he is still in favour of controversial plans to impose high taxes on the most polluting cars, while letting low emissions vehicles dodge duty.

The strategy risks alienating Brown even further from British drivers who are already suffering from huge fuel bills. Paul Watters of the AA said: ‘Motorists are already suffering from very high prices – this just piles on the pain.’

The Prime Minister is also understood to be looking to teach motorists ‘eco-driving techniques’ that will bring down fuel consumption. He said: ‘I think the combination of car licence and petrol costs could, if we develop the new technology, be to the benefit of car drivers.’  :crazy:


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Offline Ian

Re: High fuel prices are a benefit!
« Reply #1 on: July 10, 2008, 08:14:09 PM »
Once again the phrase springs to mind


         " WILL NOBODY RID US OF THIS TROUBLESOME "
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Offline Alianora La Canta

Re: High fuel prices are a benefit!
« Reply #2 on: July 12, 2008, 05:23:56 PM »
Slight problem. He's also pushing up the price of rail travel massively, the bus system is virtually non-existent outside the cities and most non-urban places are not designed with walking in mind (at least to get to shopping, work and other essential tasks) so we can't afford to not use cars either.

Also, Britain is not even close to having the infrastructure it needs to run electric or hybrid cars (though hydrogen-based charge-at-home car conversions (with video) have just been launched), so getting even a majority of the cars switched over in 12 years is overambitious. Some people go 5-7 years between cars, and certainly in my household we generally use cars that are over 10 years old at the time of purchase. Buying a new car is out of the question.

Without effective alternatives, nothing will stop petrol-driven cars from remaining ubiquitous. Gordon Brown, not all of us lives and works in Central London...
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Offline Neil.P

Re: High fuel prices are a benefit!
« Reply #3 on: July 12, 2008, 06:54:50 PM »
The tax on my 2002 Clio is going up £50 next spring to about £260 a year. In total 9 million people are going to be worse off paying their new "green" car tax. Wonder how long it is before all out anarchy breaks out in this country - or has it already started :DntKnw:

Neil.P :(
« Last Edit: July 12, 2008, 07:00:20 PM by Neil.P »

Offline Ian

Re: High fuel prices are a benefit!
« Reply #4 on: July 12, 2008, 07:17:19 PM »
Thats the lying scumbag government we have for you Neil. What was it Brown said " The majority of car owners will be better off. " Sounds like Hitler when he said he wanted ' piece', a piece of everything. Sorry, 'scumbag' is too nicer word for them.  :sick:
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Offline Neil.P

Re: High fuel prices are a benefit!
« Reply #5 on: July 12, 2008, 07:24:41 PM »
We're in a right state Ian. Gordon should pack his bags mate. Unless I've got it all wrong?

Anybody on here got anything positive to say about our Gordon?

Neil.P

Offline Ian

Re: High fuel prices are a benefit!
« Reply #6 on: July 12, 2008, 07:32:34 PM »
Oh yes. He is POSITIVELY a lying, untrustworthy, reverse Robin Hood, another POSITIVE, he makes me sick  :sick:
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Online Dare

Re: High fuel prices are a benefit!
« Reply #7 on: July 12, 2008, 10:49:51 PM »
They don't want fuel prices to come downmthey
will find any excuse to keep fuel prices high or
raise them.Now if we could find out who
                THEY are

Our country has been sitting on its ass  for
30 yrs not doing a thing about fixing the
problem of our foreign oil dependency,now
what?
Mark Twain once opined, "it's easier to con someone than to convince them they've been conned."

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Re: High fuel prices are a benefit!
« Reply #8 on: July 13, 2008, 03:50:48 AM »
And all the while these political leaders are driving or being driven in gas-guzzling cars.

What bloody hypocrites. Just like the leaders at last weeks G8 meeting pontificating about how we must all eat less while gorging on nine course menus of the finest delicacies.

When will we ever learn and see them for what they really are?   
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Offline Wizzo

Re: High fuel prices are a benefit!
« Reply #9 on: July 13, 2008, 10:58:24 AM »
What annoys me is the so called 'green tax' that Neil mentioned, this is for cars that aren't so eco friendly as the rest.

My car is a typical offender in this category, I have had my car two years and have achieved 19mpg on average. Its not good, I know that and I admit, but we all have a choice and my choice is to pay a small fortune in tax to our Government every year in fuel tax.

If a typical 'eco car' does 57mpg then I'm paying 3 times the tax on fuel that an eco car driver would - why should I have my road tax increased as well!!??!!

If its a green tax, where is this green money being spent?
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Offline Alianora La Canta

Re: High fuel prices are a benefit!
« Reply #10 on: July 13, 2008, 12:49:00 PM »
The other thing is that Gordon Brown proposed a tax on all cars made before 2001 because there's no carbon emissions certificate for them. So even though my dad's car, at 33mpg, is considerably cleaner than the Wiz's, the new tax for that is £311 due to its list price (it was previously much cheaper because of the carbon wasn't taken into account. There isn't really an alternative, since we can't afford a newer car, and our family only just gets away with running only one car (Mum runs a company which requires several trips away from home and the only way Dad can get to his workplace is by car).
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Offline Ian

Re: High fuel prices are a benefit!
« Reply #11 on: July 13, 2008, 10:11:08 PM »
The green tax Wiz, goes on MP's second homes, decorating them, new kitchens, the most expensive tv's, I could go on all night about this, but I won't, I'll encompass it all in one word........CORRUPTION
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