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Author Topic: Turkish GP on US TV  (Read 5178 times)

Offline Jericoke

Re: Turkish GP on US TV
« Reply #15 on: June 03, 2009, 02:59:21 PM »
Clearly we have completely different experiences of American F1 fans.  The vast majority that I have met will only watch NASCAR/IRL if there is nothing else on.  They are proud of their chosen sport, considering that it sets them a cut above the run-of-the-mill motor sport fan (not my fault - that is exactly how they describe it to me), and every one of them enjoys getting up at ridiculous times of the night to watch a GP.


And those are the fans that Fox wants.  If Speed carries the race early, those fans might as well watch the NASCAR/IRL race in the afternoon instead of Fox, why watch the same race twice?

Offline Chameleon

Re: Turkish GP on US TV
« Reply #16 on: June 03, 2009, 03:22:08 PM »
Fox, Speed, it's all the same company - why should they care which channel the fans watch as long as they do watch?  Fox's coverage, being delayed, is driving me to the net, however.
Never mind me - read http://f1insight.madtv.me.uk/ :D

Offline cosworth151

Re: Turkish GP on US TV
« Reply #17 on: June 03, 2009, 03:31:28 PM »
Many US fans, including me, have to find F1 on the web every race. The only cable system in my town doesn't offer Speed. Satellite TV really isn't an option where I live, either.
“You can search the world over for the finer things, but you won't find a match for the American road and the creatures that live on it.”
― Bob Dylan

Offline Jericoke

Re: Turkish GP on US TV
« Reply #18 on: June 03, 2009, 05:07:00 PM »
Fox, Speed, it's all the same company - why should they care which channel the fans watch as long as they do watch?  Fox's coverage, being delayed, is driving me to the net, however.

TV ratings are important:  they dictate how much they can charge advertisers to pay for commercial programming.

If Fox's ratings for F1 are too far below those for NASCAR, they might scrap showing F1 altogether and put on another Cheater's Island reality show.  That's why they can't allow the audience to split across 2 channels at different times.

They're aware that hard core fans will stream from somewhere else, they've decided there's not enough to worry about it.

The goal is to grow F1 in the USA, and right now, that means getting as many people to watch the race in the afternoon as possible.

Offline Chameleon

Re: Turkish GP on US TV
« Reply #19 on: June 04, 2009, 03:34:06 PM »
Fox, Speed, it's all the same company - why should they care which channel the fans watch as long as they do watch?  Fox's coverage, being delayed, is driving me to the net, however.

TV ratings are important:  they dictate how much they can charge advertisers to pay for commercial programming.

If Fox's ratings for F1 are too far below those for NASCAR, they might scrap showing F1 altogether and put on another Cheater's Island reality show.  That's why they can't allow the audience to split across 2 channels at different times.

They're aware that hard core fans will stream from somewhere else, they've decided there's not enough to worry about it.

The goal is to grow F1 in the USA, and right now, that means getting as many people to watch the race in the afternoon as possible.

Not logical, I'm afraid, Jeri.  If Fox are not concerned with the (allegedly) small number of F1 fans who will stream the live video elsewhere, it is no skin off their nose if they cater for such fans by allowing Speed to show the race live.  Since the rest of the motor racing viewers will not watch at such ungodly hours, they are still available to be inveigled into watching at the hour Fox chooses to show the GP.  Everybody wins and the ratings for both channels are maintained.

And that is my point - there is no sensible reason why Speed should not screen the race live while Fox goes after the casual viewers a few hours later.  Fox succeeds only in alienating the existing viewers with their time delay and I am convinced that is because they do not understand the F1 market.
Never mind me - read http://f1insight.madtv.me.uk/ :D

Offline Jericoke

Re: Turkish GP on US TV
« Reply #20 on: June 04, 2009, 03:53:12 PM »
Fox, Speed, it's all the same company - why should they care which channel the fans watch as long as they do watch?  Fox's coverage, being delayed, is driving me to the net, however.

TV ratings are important:  they dictate how much they can charge advertisers to pay for commercial programming.

If Fox's ratings for F1 are too far below those for NASCAR, they might scrap showing F1 altogether and put on another Cheater's Island reality show.  That's why they can't allow the audience to split across 2 channels at different times.

They're aware that hard core fans will stream from somewhere else, they've decided there's not enough to worry about it.

The goal is to grow F1 in the USA, and right now, that means getting as many people to watch the race in the afternoon as possible.

Not logical, I'm afraid, Jeri.  If Fox are not concerned with the (allegedly) small number of F1 fans who will stream the live video elsewhere, it is no skin off their nose if they cater for such fans by allowing Speed to show the race live.  Since the rest of the motor racing viewers will not watch at such ungodly hours, they are still available to be inveigled into watching at the hour Fox chooses to show the GP.  Everybody wins and the ratings for both channels are maintained.

And that is my point - there is no sensible reason why Speed should not screen the race live while Fox goes after the casual viewers a few hours later.  Fox succeeds only in alienating the existing viewers with their time delay and I am convinced that is because they do not understand the F1 market.

Of course they don't understand the F1 market.  You don't get far in American broadcasting with obscure sports.

They've got one chance to get it right, and they think that means the most viewers at once.  When you're trying to convince someone who doesn't get it, you have to use their language.  In TV that means ratings, period.  One show has to have the highest ratings possible.  You can't combine ratings for two shows on two channels, even if it's the same show and the same owner.

Offline Chameleon

Re: Turkish GP on US TV
« Reply #21 on: June 04, 2009, 06:10:14 PM »
You're right, of course, but that doesn't mean I can't yell at Fox for their stupidity!
Never mind me - read http://f1insight.madtv.me.uk/ :D

Offline Jericoke

Re: Turkish GP on US TV
« Reply #22 on: June 04, 2009, 06:20:54 PM »
You're right, of course, but that doesn't mean I can't yell at Fox for their stupidity!

Write them a postcard.  It's my understanding that they take it seriously when someone puts pen to paper and actually spends money on a stamp.

They don't open letters though (ever since that Anthrax thing)

Offline lkjohnson1950

Re: Turkish GP on US TV
« Reply #23 on: June 04, 2009, 08:01:06 PM »
I believe it also has something to do with the fact that Bernie charges extra for each time you broadcast the race. To go live and on tape would cost more.

Lonny
Lonny

Offline Dare

Re: Turkish GP on US TV
« Reply #24 on: June 04, 2009, 08:22:53 PM »
I'm not sure about this year but Speed used to show it live
and time delayed on Sunday with a occassionally showing
during the week
"The
democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those
who are
willing to work and give to those who would not."
--
Thomas
Jefferson

Offline Jericoke

Re: Turkish GP on US TV
« Reply #25 on: June 04, 2009, 09:20:45 PM »
I believe it also has something to do with the fact that Bernie charges extra for each time you broadcast the race. To go live and on tape would cost more.

Lonny

In Canada we get the European races live at 8 AM, and the Asian races live in the middle of the night, with a repeat at 8 AM.  Brazil comes on live at 1PM.  My favourite race, I get to sleep in ;-)

Offline cosworth151

Re: Turkish GP on US TV
« Reply #26 on: June 05, 2009, 12:24:20 PM »
Several year ago, Fox Sports Network would re-broadcast the races on Sunday evening.

Speed will re-broadcast the Fox races the following Tuesday at 13:00 EDT. If they do it like last year, that broadcast will include Peter Windsor's pre-race walk about.

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They don't open letters though (ever since that Anthrax thing)

I thought it was just that nobody at Faux Network could read.  :crazy:
“You can search the world over for the finer things, but you won't find a match for the American road and the creatures that live on it.”
― Bob Dylan

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Re: Turkish GP on US TV
« Reply #27 on: June 07, 2009, 02:45:47 AM »
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Offline Willy

Re: Turkish GP on US TV
« Reply #28 on: June 08, 2009, 07:55:27 PM »
I stand corrected.....they did show an edited version of the post race interviews.

But, I still want to see Peter sticking his mic in Flavio's face and asking about Alonso's fuel load.

An what the hell is that story about Scott Speed possibly coming back to F1? Only as a tire warmer I hope!!!

Offline lkjohnson1950

Re: Turkish GP on US TV
« Reply #29 on: June 09, 2009, 06:46:39 AM »
USF1 has promised American drivers, who else is there?

Lonny
Lonny

 


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