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Author Topic: Barrichello's future at Brawn already in doubt  (Read 3787 times)

Offline Dare

Barrichello's future at Brawn already in doubt
« on: July 12, 2009, 05:08:57 PM »
Rubens should remember how fortunate he was to even have a ride
this year and put a sock in it


Sunday 12th July 2009   PlanetF1

Team bosses past and present have questioned whether Rubens Barrichello will continue as a Brawn driver after his astonishing outburst against the team following the German GP.

As they dissected the Barrichello rant in the BBC studio, both Sir Frank Williams and Eddie Jordan offered strong criticism of the Brazilian.

"I thought it was just appalling," declared Jordan, who was Barrichello's team boss during his active days in F1. "He has brought the team into disrepute. It is a very sad situation."

Williams' words were, unsurprisingly given his position in the sport, more measured, but he described Barrichello's criticism of Brawn as "a red-card job".

Pressed on whether he would dismiss Barrichello if the veteran was his driver, Williams replied: "I would swallow my pride and try to make it up. But it couldn't be tolerated again."


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Offline John S

Re: Barrichello's future at Brawn already in doubt
« Reply #1 on: July 12, 2009, 05:59:19 PM »

I think poor old Rubens sees conspiracy where there is none, but his outburst is unforgivable.

Other teams have made much bigger mistakes on stategy, if that is what this is, on a regular basis this season; so sh*t happens and Rubens needs to get a grip.

I don't think the strategy was wrong seeing how the Brawns ate through their tyres and they had a fuel rig problem as well. Rubens failed to make headway in his 2nd & 3rd stints so he is as much to blame for the lower points finish. Jens just seems to be able to put in that little bit extra when it is critical and thats why he is out in front in the WDC. All in all I think 5th and 6th is the best they could have got today.

Team bosses understand the hot headed reactions from young inexperienced drivers, or close WDC contenders, over this sort of thing but with his maturity Rubens should know better.

He will probably see the season out with Brawn but after this he can expect the whole team to unite around Jens to make sure he becomes WDC. Rubens has probably made sure that what he is complaining about will now come to be his regular treatment.


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Offline Scott

Re: Barrichello's future at Brawn already in doubt
« Reply #2 on: July 12, 2009, 09:44:40 PM »

Team bosses understand the hot headed reactions from young inexperienced drivers, or close WDC contenders, over this sort of thing but with his maturity Rubens should know better.


I suppose Rubens has been one of the more immature drivers 'post race' during his entire career.  At Ferrari he certainly had a contract that forbid him from nay-saying the team (I think both he and Schumi did, and had their comments analyzed by that pretty blonde always holding the voice recorder beside them during interviews), but ever since leaving Ferrari he has been one of the whiniest drivers on the grid whenever the slightest thing didn't go his way.  

Ross has shown that he has far more class than Rubens by not simply dismissing him as a whiner and outright declaring that they will not be having any negotiations with him this year for any further contracts...however like you, I agree that he may well be thinking that privately.

When I saw Button warming his tires while keeping up to Rubens just before Rubens last pit stop, I was chuckling to my buddy that Rubens is going to be really p*ssed when Button passes him during the pit stops...and sure enough, he was.  Poor Ruby.  Now go and retire...or better yet, quite next race and let them throw the Ant in there as tail gunner.  He'll appreciate everything the team does for him, unlike Barrichello.
« Last Edit: July 12, 2009, 09:51:23 PM by ScottyD »
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Offline Jericoke

Re: Barrichello's future at Brawn already in doubt
« Reply #3 on: July 13, 2009, 12:48:25 AM »
I'm sure Rubens will land at a new team.

Who wouldn't want a GP winner at a discount rate?

As for any unfortunate outbursts, those will be seen as 'any press is good press' by a last place team.

Offline Willy

Re: Barrichello's future at Brawn already in doubt
« Reply #4 on: July 13, 2009, 01:36:52 AM »
Time for Rubens to slip quietly back to Brazil and teach karting to the kids.
Ross will drop him at the end of the season for sure and I doubt he will get a seat next year.

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Re: Barrichello's future at Brawn already in doubt
« Reply #5 on: July 13, 2009, 08:43:48 AM »
Rubens' outbursts were a bit embarrassing, but I guess it is somewhat inevitable he feels paranoid given his Ferrari years.  It is all just a bit unfortunate.  His team made a mistake (although I can think of more serious mistakes by other teams made this season- my lot especially have had a fair few c*ck-ups) but once again he seemed to lack pace when he needed it whereas Button would put down the big laps when it counted. 

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Re: Barrichello's future at Brawn already in doubt
« Reply #6 on: July 13, 2009, 09:00:43 AM »
There is absolutely no excuse for Rubens. Even in minor teams there is a golden rule, never blame the team in public.
I have always liked Rubens but I honestly believe he should be fired for this outburst. I'm out of touch with who the current Brawn test driver is, but they could put the test driver or any one from a list of aspiring young talent or indeed some old hands like Davidson in that car as a clear number 2 to Button and still have a good chance of getting the Constructors championship.

Offline Scott

Re: Barrichello's future at Brawn already in doubt
« Reply #7 on: July 13, 2009, 09:26:54 AM »
There is absolutely no excuse for Rubens. Even in minor teams there is a golden rule, never blame the team in public.
I have always liked Rubens but I honestly believe he should be fired for this outburst. I'm out of touch with who the current Brawn test driver is, but they could put the test driver or any one from a list of aspiring young talent or indeed some old hands like Davidson in that car as a clear number 2 to Button and still have a good chance of getting the Constructors championship.
They don't have a test driver, but Ant is the official reserve driver, so they wouldn't even have to do up a contract.
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Re: Barrichello's future at Brawn already in doubt
« Reply #8 on: July 13, 2009, 09:43:44 AM »

oh my:

"....bye bye blackb....Barrichello!"
"In a Democracy, civil dissent and even disobedience is a responsibility and a duty. Indeed, the extent dissent is tolerated is in itself a test of a Democracy."

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Offline cosworth151

Re: Barrichello's future at Brawn already in doubt
« Reply #9 on: July 13, 2009, 12:56:34 PM »
Ant was there on the BBC with Eddie Jordan and David Coultard when they were talking with Sir Frank. I was waiting for a voice from off-camera to say, "Ant, phone call for you from Ross."

Sir Frank did say that Barrichello "sounds like a driver that doesn't have a ride next season."

One thing on Rubens' behalf: At that time, right after the race, I'm not sure he knew about the fuel rig failure. Right after the stop, he was on the radio saying that he thought that they had fueled him to the end of the race.
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Re: Barrichello's future at Brawn already in doubt
« Reply #10 on: July 13, 2009, 01:28:54 PM »
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One thing on Rubens' behalf: At that time, right after the race, I'm not sure he knew about the fuel rig failure. Right after the stop, he was on the radio saying that he thought that they had fueled him to the end of the race.

Even so, he was being paid a lot of money to drive a very good car into the points. He should have kept his mouth shut or at the very least checked the facts first.

Offline johnbull

Re: Barrichello's future at Brawn already in doubt
« Reply #11 on: July 13, 2009, 11:24:44 PM »
I think Ross summed it all up in his own inimitable style when he informed Rubens that he had the 11th fastest lap time - not quite the pace to win G Ps.
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Offline mrkjf

Re: Barrichello's future at Brawn already in doubt
« Reply #12 on: July 14, 2009, 08:22:07 AM »
No excuse for the outburst in public,to overtake in Germany is a task in itself and i believe that Button was weeving to let Rubens that the team expect him to move over and it had nothing to do with keeping heat into the tyres,it wasnt the parade lap now was it.He couldnt pass Rubens on the track so the TEAM set him up on pit stop stratergy.
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Offline Scott

Re: Barrichello's future at Brawn already in doubt
« Reply #13 on: July 14, 2009, 10:50:51 AM »
Maybe while he was behind Rubens, Button thought it was almost like a parade lap.  I seriously think he was warming his tires for the upcoming two laps he had to put in to pass Rubens in the pits.
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Offline John S

Re: Barrichello's future at Brawn already in doubt
« Reply #14 on: July 14, 2009, 01:31:28 PM »

Most teamates who are holding the other guy up realise that they have to move over unless they will be giving away points from a leading position in the championship, it's a no brainer surely. Especially when there is a potential threat from cars behind catching and taking the both of them, it's a team game after all.

The only exceptions of course is when the team boss want's a particular driver to win to please the sponsors, Eddie Jordan favoured this style along with Ferrari and no doubt others.
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