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F1 News & Discussions => F1 Drivers => Topic started by: guest3164 on June 21, 2018, 07:46:57 PM
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Headline kind of says it all. I wonder if that will be the end of Kimi in F1, I do hope not though.
https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/136898/ferrari-ready-to-replace-raikkonen-with-leclerc (https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/136898/ferrari-ready-to-replace-raikkonen-with-leclerc)
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Well Kimi can't expect to race forever and Ferrari need a succession plan for Vettel sooner or later.
Interesting they mention the price of hiring Danny Ric as too high, guess even the big teams are looking at cost savings going forward.
Reckon "il Commendatore" would posthumously give his blessing as he always felt that it was his cars, particularly his engines, that won the races not the drivers. :D
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Wow, if Ferrari don’t want to spend money on a proven winner vs a gamble on a rookie, F1 is really in a dark place. I don’t think they would need to shell out like the McLaren offer, I bet DR would practically take Kimi’s reported $10m salary to wear the red uniform.
I like Leclerc, but I think jumping too early into the Ferrari will be a gamble for his career as well.
Hope it’s just a silly season rumour.
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Leclerc looks like a sponsors dream and it
appears he can drive too. I'm finally admitting
as much as I hate that Kimi isn't gonna produce.
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No, I agree there is little point to Ferrari keeping Kimi (though he’s proven he can bag a podium especially when Vettel’s race goes south). I just think it’s premature to throw Leclerc in the Ferrari.
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Just a thought, is this a spoiler put out by the Scuderia in an attempt to talk Riccardo's price down.
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I think replacing Kimi with Leclerc would be a mistake, too. I wonder if price is the real reason for not going after DannyRic. Maybe Vettel doesn't want a competitive team mate.
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Ever since Schumacher, Ferrari has had the strategy of hiring winners. Given that has only given them one championship (and a 'lucky' one at that), I think it's time to change up their approach. Villeneuve joined Ferrari after a single race. Lauda had earned a total of 2 career points in F1.
If Ferrari hires DR (or Hamilton or Bottas) and they don't win the championship that season, heads will roll. On the other hand, if they hire LeClerc and they don't win a championship, they've still got time to grow.
Honestly, I don't see a race winner replacing Kimi for 2019, unless it's someone who wins their first race in 2018. (Or Max. I think Ferrari would take Max.)
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As touched on above, I think there could be a lot of "Call my Bluff!" going on in F1 right now. Teams want the best driver for the least money, drivers want the best drive for the most money. It's clear which newcomers to F1 are underperforming and it's also clear which drivers are set to ask for the big bucks, so I wouldn't be surprised if there are a lot of fake indications passed along to the sport media, simply to shake the sand to the right corner of the box!!!
Right now, I still think Ocon, Gasly and Leclerc (and possibly Sainz Jr.) are "tasty" propositions for top future drives!!! .. while the likes of Hulk, Romain and Checo could simply turn into F1 Journeymen.
Best Regards,
Cal :)
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Leclerc spun twice yesterday. Ferrari would not be happy if that was race conditions...
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Charles is the second time in 8 years that all Ferrari's efforts to have a home-grown driver development scheme have produced a driver that could plausibly be put into the race team in some sort of capacity. Most of their drivers end up falling by the wayside in the junior series because there's little funding component in their scheme. They will be keen to show the performance-orientated approach to driver development works.
However... ..."ready" only means that it is a possible swap. Ferrari are a naturally cautious squad. I still think that unless Kimi spectacularly messes up or retires of his own accord, all this statement means is that if one of the Ferrari drivers was injured, Ferrari would put Charles into the car without hesitation (they would surely have signed a contract with Sauber that made that relatively easy to do). Furthermore, Kimi is capable of being a good backup driver who is also able to obey team orders without question or further comment - a valuable thing for a team that insists on asymmetric team arrangements.
It is that Charles will get a second year at Sauber, or possibly one at Haas, while Raikkonen gets a farewell tour. Maybe, in the end, it'll depend on how much Ferrari trusts chance.
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I still think that unless Kimi spectacularly messes up or retires of his own accord, all this statement means is that if one of the Ferrari drivers was injured, Ferrari would put Charles into the car without hesitation
I think that's about the size of it, although Charles is continuing to produce on race day and well, Kimi isn't ... apart from the last outing in France!
We all talk about the "Number 2 Driver" ... as Bottas clearly is to Hamilton and Kimi is to Seb, but should Charles land a Ferrari seat in the next year or two, I think he would be challenging Seb all the way.
Best Regards,
Cal :)
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I still think that unless Kimi spectacularly messes up or retires of his own accord, all this statement means is that if one of the Ferrari drivers was injured, Ferrari would put Charles into the car without hesitation
I think that's about the size of it, although Charles is continuing to produce on race day and well, Kimi isn't ... apart from the last outing in France!
We all talk about the "Number 2 Driver" ... as Bottas clearly is to Hamilton and Kimi is to Seb, but should Charles land a Ferrari seat in the next year or two, I think he would be challenging Seb all the way.
Best Regards,
Cal :)
Must take a lot to impress you Cal. 4 podiums, a 4th and a 6th this year. Bahrain retirement was a team error, Spain his engine blew. What's the guy got to do?
I think if LeClerc was handed the keys to the Ferrari there would be far less consistent finishes than that. He has impressed absolutely, but I think he has some learning before he would be challenging Vettel very often.
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I still think that unless Kimi spectacularly messes up or retires of his own accord, all this statement means is that if one of the Ferrari drivers was injured, Ferrari would put Charles into the car without hesitation
I think that's about the size of it, although Charles is continuing to produce on race day and well, Kimi isn't ... apart from the last outing in France!
We all talk about the "Number 2 Driver" ... as Bottas clearly is to Hamilton and Kimi is to Seb, but should Charles land a Ferrari seat in the next year or two, I think he would be challenging Seb all the way.
Best Regards,
Cal :)
Must take a lot to impress you Cal. 4 podiums, a 4th and a 6th this year. Bahrain retirement was a team error, Spain his engine blew. What's the guy got to do?
I think if LeClerc was handed the keys to the Ferrari there would be far less consistent finishes than that. He has impressed absolutely, but I think he has some learning before he would be challenging Vettel very often.
True Scott ... Kimi has had a lot of failures beyond his control, but I think Leclerc will mature nicely this season, as he has all the ingredients to be in a top team once he gains more experience. He may not be ready for a top drive in 2019, but should he keep progressing as he is now, surely he won't miss out on a top drive, like many mid pack drivers have done in the past??
BTW, It does take a LOT to impress me Scott. For instance, I could sit and watch foam insulation being applied all day long, or the infinity mirror trick, that's a belter!! ... how about them apples eh?
Best Regards,
Cal :)
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Always been a big Kimi fan. I think he is still in the top 4 drivers on the grid. I only rate Vettel, Alonso and Ricciardo above Kimi.
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No Hamilton?
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Always been a big Kimi fan. I think he is still in the top 4 drivers on the grid. I only rate Vettel, Alonso and Ricciardo above Kimi.
Me too. I think Kimi may have had a win or two if
Ferrari let him
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No Hamilton?
Kimi’s better IMO...Hamilton’s gotten lucky with the cars he’s been in.
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Kimi was fearless. Last lap crash at German GP due to
suspension failure
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fMhCRXyG2_E
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I think Kimi's problem is that he is just too apolitical and doesn't get involved in that side of the sport. He is content to just get in the car and drive the hell out of it. It possibly means he has missed out on more opportunities to win Championships, but he is still an outstanding driver who, if allowed, would win multiple races. Just now he is in Vettel's team and has to play second fiddle.
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I think Kimi's problem is that he is just too apolitical and doesn't get involved in that side of the sport. He is content to just get in the car and drive the hell out of it. It possibly means he has missed out on more opportunities to win Championships, but he is still an outstanding driver who, if allowed, would win multiple races. Just now he is in Vettel's team and has to play second fiddle.
To some degree, that's about the size of it Luke!
We have two Finns, playing second fiddle to teammates who may not be quite as impressive in a mid field team, while we currently have mid field drivers who are already impressive, ready to deliver in a top team!!
Best Regards,
Cal :)
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This week the rumour is Kimi to McLaren. In my opinion that would open up a seat for DR at Ferrari (I still don't think Ferrari would really hire Leclerc at this stage. They might only agree to a one year contract if DR were to join, but I think they would be idiots not to sign him if he came calling).
I would like to see Kimi at McLaren (again). :good: :good:
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This week the rumour is Kimi to McLaren. In my opinion that would open up a seat for DR at Ferrari (I still don't think Ferrari would really hire Leclerc at this stage. They might only agree to a one year contract if DR were to join, but I think they would be idiots not to sign him if he came calling).
I would like to see Kimi at McLaren (again). :good: :good:
Kimi: Sauber -> McLaren -> Ferrari -> Lotus -> Ferrari -> McLaren -> Sauber?
Sounds good Scott?
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:good: :good:
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If Kimi completes the whole "mirror drives system" ... he will end up back at Sauber ... and will still lament on the radio about getting these stupid slow drivers out of the way!!! :DD
Best Regards,
Cal :)
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Just caught this article ...
http://www.kunalsf1blog.com/inside-line-f1-podcast/leclerc-verstappen-comparison-f1-performances-who-is-better/ (http://www.kunalsf1blog.com/inside-line-f1-podcast/leclerc-verstappen-comparison-f1-performances-who-is-better/)
This will please Max ... and Kimi!!!
Best Regards,
Cal :)
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OK, whoever came up with the latest version of the rumour (swapover after summer break) is having a lark. This sounds exactly like the sort of silly rumour Eddie Jordan would spread at a media breakfast if he spotted his colleagues looking tired and bored...
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Just caught this article ...
http://www.kunalsf1blog.com/inside-line-f1-podcast/leclerc-verstappen-comparison-f1-performances-who-is-better/ (http://www.kunalsf1blog.com/inside-line-f1-podcast/leclerc-verstappen-comparison-f1-performances-who-is-better/)
This will please Max ... and Kimi!!!
Best Regards,
Cal :)
Kimi couldn't give a you know what. I don't even think he reads F1 press. Just give him a car to race in and leave him alone.
...and nobody, but nobody laments endlessly about getting cars out of the way more than Max. If Kimi complains about it, it's because he was unnecessarily blocked. If Max complains about it, it's because he can see a car way off in the distance.
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Very true. I think Max suffers from I am the Greatest, why don't you see that? syndrome