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Other Sports => Other Sports => Topic started by: lkjohnson1950 on October 16, 2018, 08:17:24 PM
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Formula E has begun testing their 2ND gen cars. Looks more like something you'd see at Le Mans than as an alternate to F1.
https://www.racefans.net/2018/10/16/pictures-formula-e-second-generation-car-begins-testing/felipe-massa-bra-venturi-formula-e/ (https://www.racefans.net/2018/10/16/pictures-formula-e-second-generation-car-begins-testing/felipe-massa-bra-venturi-formula-e/)
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Many of us thought that they could never come up with an uglier car than the Gen I Formula E. They have met & surpassed that mark.
Some of you remember the final version of the Can-Am. They put full body kits on F5000 (a.k.a. Formula Atlantic) cars. This looks kind of like a modern version of that idea.
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Well Formula E has now lost any notion of being an open wheel series.
Yeah deffo odd looking, not impressed at all. :(
I guess this stems from the problem of a same make series, you've got to have plenty of things it appears teams can fiddle with fettle in order to create a competitive difference. Shame is they probably can't - or shouldn't - alter any of the bodywork. :D
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Looks like it was designed by a Hotwheels modeller, or a PR committee.
They're not appealing to race fans, but trying to draw in new fans. New fans don't really care what a race car is 'supposed' to look like, just what will make them watch.
The problem is F1 fans aren't going to watch Formula E. Not that we don't want to (though that's true for many of us), but if we're interested in following multiple series, we already are. I can't watch F1, IndyCar, NASCAR, DTM, WRC, WEC and THEN add on Formula E.
I applaud Formula E. I think the idea that an F1 car MUST use an internal combustion engine is ridiculous, so if F1 isn't going to move into the present, it's a gap someone has to fill. However, until Formula E provides what F1 does: top drivers, top engineers, distinct cars/teams/technology, then I'm just not going to swap.
I'm definitely not going to swap if they won't at least pretend to be high tech F1 cars.
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Formula E is not for me, tried it but was bored very quickly. :nono:
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I'm happy that Formula E is being itself and not some other series. It shouldn't pretend to be "the next F1" - that's not a viable direction for a 21st century series. It would either be constantly in F1's wheeltracks or (if F1's direction proved to be wrong) straight into the same barrier. Mr Agag's rhetoric is not helpful to FE.
It's Mum's favourite motorsport series, and I find its races tend to be more exciting than the duller ones of F1's calendar (though not as exciting as F1's more exciting ones). Similarly, I believe a lot of its drivers are better than the likes of Ericsson and Stroll, but not in the class of, say, Perez and Riccardo. Not sure what hiding it on Quest TV (a fairly obscure free-to-air channel) rather than the better-known, if inconsistent, Channel 5, is going to do for its British viewing figures though.
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Formula E should race this car at COTA. They could paint the track orange. With the Hot Wheels launch ramp at Turn 1 it really would look like a Hot Wheels race.
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Formula E should race this car at COTA. They could paint the track orange. With the Hot Wheels launch ramp at Turn 1 it really would look like a Hot Wheels race.
I know you're trying to be silly, but I'd totally watch that.
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I can't get into electric cars much less electric race cars.If
God didn't want us to have petrol run cars he wouldn't have created
dinosaurs
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I had a ride in an Electric taxi cab the other week and it was pretty great, but that was largely because the cab had a mostly glass roof so the cab felt airy and light. The electric part was odd given how quiet it was.
FE I want to get into, I just can't. I think maybe it just lacks that 'soul' that a series which has existed for decades builds up. No legendary teams or drivers. Give it time and I hope I'll like it more.
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Personally I like the whole idea now. I owned an electric car 20 years ago and it was useless: 2,000 lbs of lead acid batteries; no heater; 30 mile range (much less if the headlights or windshield wipers were on); all day to recharge.
My opinion was that there was no future in battery powered electric vehicles, and I was the Engineering Manager of a high-tech battery manufacturer. Perhaps (!) my opinion was premature. To be fair, the car was built as a benchmark for the company's Hydrogen Fuel Cell power units which are successful and would be the future if Hydrogen could be more easily obtained.
I look forward to watching this racing series develop, surely it will help electric vehicles become more efficient and acceptable to the general public.
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I can't get into electric cars much less electric race cars.If
God didn't want us to have petrol run cars he wouldn't have created
dinosaurs
Some day you'll be crude underground :tease: :tease:
But we won't need oil anymore :P :P
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Around here, we call them coal powered cars. That's where the electric to charge them comes from here.
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Electric cars go down better here in the UK, perhaps because there are now entire days in the spring and autumn where Britain is powered entirely on non-fossil-fuel sources (they do cheat a bit and count nuclear power in that rating though). There's even a free charging point next to a local café for those preferring not to charge at home or otherwise running low.
However, none of that could avoid the obvious this race: too much wet sand off-line, plus total lack of preparation from some teams causing needless penalties, completely spoilt the race.
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I glanced at a headline regarding Massa and regulation penalties? ...
I have to admit, a part of me is curious, so I may watch an outing of Formula E, just to see how it feels and to see how wee Massa is coping over there!
Best Regards,
Cal :)
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However, none of that could avoid the obvious this race: too much wet sand off-line, plus total lack of preparation from some teams causing needless penalties, completely spoilt the race.
I tried to watch, I'm not sure I got the schedule right (the same site lists part of the weekend on Eastern Time, which is where I live and other parts at GMT) It felt like amateur hour, not top level racing, in terms of teams, driving (?!) and broadcast.
I thought for sure the driving would be top notch, so maybe the cars are hard to control, or they don't have enough practise, or something.
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They deliberately don't give the Formula E drivers as long as their F1 counterparts - for most rounds, practise, qualifying and the race all happen on the same day.
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I've been tempted to "check in" on Formula E once or twice - although, my gut feeling tells me I would not enjoy it. Other than F1, I occasionally watch DTM or Motocross, but becoming a regular viewer of Formula E, may be a bridge too far?
Best Regards,
Cal :)
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I watch FE races quite often as they are broadcast by a channel called Quest at a time when there's pretty much nothing else on. This doesn't mean I'm a fan, but its better than the endless list of so called reality TV.
Biggest problem for me is that there is too much artificial input.
Last year it was cars swapped half distance plus fan boost????? ::)
This year it's the insane change lane nonsense to get extra boost,
plus they still have fan boost. :crazy: :crazy: :crazy:
Most interesting thing in last race was the 2 leaders, from the same team, tripping over each other a few laps from home. |-( :swoon:
- Obviously they're rehearsing to take F1's team mate squabble limelight sometime in the years to come. :DD :DD :DD
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As a rule, I'll watch just about any form of motorsports. I watched a tractor pull on TV earlier today. I has no interest whatsoever in a "sport" that has things like Fan Boost.
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I have to admit, back in the early days of Sky TV, I used to watch Eurosport. Anything that had an engine and moved, I pretty much watched like a TV Slob. So, as you say, Tractors, Trucks, Cars, Bikes ... I watched 'em all .... which was nice.
I may tune into FE sometime soon, but it does sound a little silly (artificial) compared with F1.
Best Regards,
Cal :)