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F1 News & Discussions => General F1 Discussion => Topic started by: Chris Borg on September 16, 2009, 07:25:34 PM
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http://www.pitpass.com/fes_php/pitpass_news_item.php?fes_art_id=39028 (http://www.pitpass.com/fes_php/pitpass_news_item.php?fes_art_id=39028)
This sounds like a good move, any thoughts, anyone.
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:good: :good: :good:
Great decision, but they might want to delay the announcement until after the WMC hearing. I understand Max and DR don't exactly see eye to eye (and I'm not talking about their height differences). If Flav goes, at least the cigar chomping Richards will bring a bit of flair back (remember him sending up his personal helicopter to see how close the rain is during a race?). Plus he's got a good team behind him (ProDrive) to help fill the technical void from Symonds departure as well.
I hope it's true.
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I am of the opinion that Dave Richards will be the ideal replacement at Renault, and I agree with you that the man has got flair and a natural charisma. However the man has got quite a mountain to climb,with the driver line up as well as Engine development and I am sure that he will be a success.
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Someone on PitPass suggested that perhaps this is part of Renault's master plan...bring in Richards and once he is settled, sell him the team. It's a great way for him to get back into F1 without Max being able to do a thing to stop it.
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I can see the logic Scotty, Prodrive want in to F1, what better way to do it than to get Richards to be the top man at Renault first? It makes great sense and I think DR can be a great force for the team.
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Sorry to hear the other news, but this sort of makes up for it. Good Luck Dave Richards, smoke a cigar for me :good:
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Someone on PitPass suggested that perhaps this is part of Renault's master plan...bring in Richards and once he is settled, sell him the team. It's a great way for him to get back into F1 without Max being able to do a thing to stop it.
Sounds like a plan to me as well Scot.
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http://www.stopandgo.tv/news/formula-1/alain-prost-sempre-in-pole-per-la-successione-di-briatore-in-renault-david-richards-smentisce-le-voci/default.html (http://www.stopandgo.tv/news/formula-1/alain-prost-sempre-in-pole-per-la-successione-di-briatore-in-renault-david-richards-smentisce-le-voci/default.html)
The English in this article might not be perfect, but anyhow see what you guys make of it.
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I hope it is Prost maybe the time is right
for his return to F1.
Maybe he could be a test and reserve driver as
well to hold costs down
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I hope it's Richards. Prost was a great driver, but leave the managing to the managers. Plus Richards has the resources to bring along a technical team to make up for Symonds departure.
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I think there could be a place for the both of them if managed correctly. I've seen the Prost rumours but I think Davids has a better track record. However, if they had AP as some kind of driver manager or involved with strategy, la professeur could make a difference.
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I can understand why Renault would want to go with a great French champion. In light of how things went with Prost's own team, I think Richards would be a better choice.
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http://www.f1technical.net/news/13366?sid=a21d8a17d63d11b1358d89acbdb606fa (http://www.f1technical.net/news/13366?sid=a21d8a17d63d11b1358d89acbdb606fa)
It seems as though Prost is the Favourite to take over at Renault.
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I don't read it that way. I read it as Prost waiting to be handed the keys, but nobody has called yet. I think the story about Richards being seen going in and out of Enstone as far more credible and likely. Richards would bring far more experience and a massive technical team. I don' think that a story Prost has manufactured shows anything but his expected coronation.
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I don't read it that way. I read it as Prost waiting to be handed the keys, but nobody has called yet. I think the story about Richards being seen going in and out of Enstone as far more credible and likely. Richards would bring far more experience and a massive technical team. I don' think that a story Prost has manufactured shows anything but his expected coronation.
I haven't read the stories, as you point out, we're talking about speculation and self promotion. Is it possible for Richards and Prost to work together? Certainly most teams operate with one guy at the top, and then the guy below him is really in charge. Prost brings the name, the history, the 'glamour' of F1, while Richards would bring in the expertise of running a team.
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2 big egos = chaos. I can't see Richards working with Prost. Ross was OK with Todt, Newey with Dennis, but there are sad endings too, like Gascoyne with just about anyone. After retirement from driving, the only thing Prost has shown is now NOT to run a team. I think if Renault give it to him just because of who he is would be foolish. The last thing they need is someone suddenly in control a budget 5 times as big as the one he couldn't deal with the first time. Richards has proven he can turn a team around.
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I don't really know much about Dave Richards (or Prost, for that matter).
I did do a little reading though. There would be a certain amount of poetry for Richards to replace Flavio at Renault, given that he replaced Flavio at Bennetton...
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Both had teams detonate below them in the past.
But Richards had his chances screwed by Honda.
Prost did his himself.
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Both had teams detonate below them in the past.
But Richards had his chances screwed by Honda.
Prost did his himself.
There are a lot of lessons to be learned from failure.
Maybe one or both men have had those lessons.
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There are a lot of lessons to be learned from failure.
In fact the only time one is learning is from failure.
It's not really failure, it's a learning opportunity.
Miss it at your peril.
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Yeah, I said the same thing above, I reckon there could be a place for the two of them if their positions are properly defined and they stick to them. Leave Richards and his team to the technical stuff and keep Prost as a good will ambassador boosting up Renault F1's rather battered image.
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http://www.pitpass.com/fes_php/pitpass_news_item.php?fes_art_id=39079 (http://www.pitpass.com/fes_php/pitpass_news_item.php?fes_art_id=39079)
Temporary Management Team at Renault.
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It says this management structure will remain until the end of the season, so I guess they have decided that they don't need to go and hire someone right away. I think that is a shame since they will need a leader to start next year's car in the right direction. With Symonds gone, I am not sure Bell is up to it along with his new duties. I think they should have promoted Bell to Head of Tech (whatever title they want to give that job) and bring in someone new to chat with the reporters and deal with the daily stuff at the track.
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It certainly won't be easy for Bell, I'd have assumed that the press will be all over the Renault garage over the weekend to interview him and just generally film the garage. I can understand the decision though to stick with who you know for the remainder of the season.
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New rumours around DR and a possible buy out. I'd rather see him work for Renault, or at least keep them as an engine supplier (assuming they get their kinks worked out with the RBR problems).
http://en.f1-live.com/f1/en/headlines/news/detail/090925181139.shtml (http://en.f1-live.com/f1/en/headlines/news/detail/090925181139.shtml)
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From my point of view, I really want Renault to remain in at least an engine providing capactiy as well. DR I think is looking increasingly likely to have some place in the team.
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From my point of view, I really want Renault to remain in at least an engine providing capactiy as well. DR I think is looking increasingly likely to have some place in the team.
If the FIA is serious about 'engine equalisation', I wouldn't expect Renault to stay on as suppliers only. If you can't use your superior technology to win a race, why pin your reputation on designers/engineers you can't hold accountable?
(I'd prefer the FIA let the engine companies compete openly, while respecting the testing ban.)
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Well, the Renault engine is inferior to the Mercedes anyway so equalisation would be doing them a favour, without them having to invest any money in it, so why not hang around? Equalisation is about levelling the playing field (in theory) so in that sense there is a good chance that they would still be seen to be powering teams who may do well (or not, depending on the car itself). The good thing about supplying engines only is that you can then just say 'yeah, it's the team, they're rubbish, our engine is great but you just cannot see it' so it is a win win situation compared to actually fielding a works team that is not winning races.
Anyway, I said I wanted Renault in purely as I do not see many other viable options for Williams in 2010 and I really want to see those two names together again. I know it won't be a return to the early 1990s, but it would stilll look great to me!
Personally, I hate this engine stuff, for goodness sake let them just build the engines as best they can and as powerful as they can like the old days.
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Anyway, I said I wanted Renault in purely as I do not see many other viable options for Williams in 2010 and I really want to see those two names together again. I know it won't be a return to the early 1990s, but it would stilll look great to me!
If Renault leave completely the FIA wiil probably have to allow Merc to supply more teams so Frank and Patrick might just benefit.
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Or would they just go down the Cosworth route and force teams without engines to use them? I do not know. I was really tired when I wrote that post last night. Not been sleeping well lately :lazy:
I would ideally prefer a Mercedes engine in any car at the moment, they are so much better than the rest.
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Or would they just go down the Cosworth route and force teams without engines to use them? I do not know. I was really tired when I wrote that post last night. Not been sleeping well lately :lazy:
I would ideally prefer a Mercedes engine in any car at the moment, they are so much better than the rest.
I'm not sure that Cosworth could supply everyone if Renault pull out, anyway most existing teams would cry foul if they are forced to use Cosworth as two big engine suppliers will have left and Merc has indicated it could supply more teams.
On the question of your insomnia I can only sympathise.
- Oh and I hope that you can negotiate immunity with the FIA like Piquet for whatever you have been been up to. You know you can tell us all here on GPwiz, as long as it involves a juicy story about a big name - we all need cheering up! :DD :DD
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Sadly I've got no dirt on anyone who is on Max's hitlist, so the FIA rejected my attempts to negotiate immunity for any future offenses I commit. Maybe Wiz is a bit more lenient and I can get immunity here. Does he have a hit list? Perhaps I am on it >:D
You're right about Cosworth, I tend to think in the worst case scenario when it comes to the FIA lately. Whatever you think is the worst, it is rarely bad enough!!
Interesting to read Mercedes said today they have the capacity to provide more engines should they get permission to and the need arise.
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I'm not sure I'd call them "two big engine suppliers." At the time of their exits, both Honda and BMW were supplying only their own team.
I wonder if there's any chance that an independent could pick up the BMW (or Renault, if they leave) engine and put it back into production. It's been done before.
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I'm not sure I'd call them "two big engine suppliers." At the time of their exits, both Honda and BMW were supplying only their own team.
I wonder if there's any chance that an independent could pick up the BMW (or Renault, if they leave) engine and put it back into production. It's been done before.
Flav has a little experience at it and he seems to
have a little extra time at the minute