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F1 News & Discussions => General F1 Discussion => Topic started by: cosworth151 on July 01, 2014, 04:07:35 PM
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Hopefully, this is just the opening salvo of Bernie's negotiations.
Bernie Ecclestone says that e won't renew the contract with Monza. "I don't think we'll do another contract," he said. "The old one was a disaster for us from a commercial point of view. After 2016, bye-bye."
Well, there's always the chance that he'll be in prison by then.
http://www.autoweek.com/article/20140701/f1/140709995#ixzz36EIDoFDe
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He has just sunk even lower in my estimation. I didn't think that this was possible.
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:o No Monza, sacrilege. :swoon:
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If you leave out Monza, you are shutting door to one of the richest legacy of F1. I hope they will negotiate some sort deal out of it.
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You never really know with Bernie, but let's consider a couple of things. Bernie stated that Ferrari is essential to F1; an Italian GP is essential to Ferrari. That would seem to indicate an Italian GP is essential to Bernie. While there are several other great tracks in Italy, none is up to F1 standards, nor are they likely to spend the money to become F1 level. Bernie of course, is eager to have races through the streets of the world's great cities, including Rome. The Mayor of Rome has supported the idea, but given the importance and fragility of Rome's iconic monuments, once around the Colosseum is highly unlikely. Even at another location a great deal of prep work would need to already have been done for a Rome GP. And if French politicians shot down a Paris GP, the Italians are likely to do likewise. So, this is probably an opening shot for more money and an upgrade to the venue. We'll see.
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The venue could sure use an upgrade, that's for sure. Let's hope it's a win-win deal. But like Cos says, Bernie will probably be in jail by then, or at the very least have nothing to do with F1. >:( >:(
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It sure could Scott, like proper toilets with washing facilities for a start.
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This might be a repeat of what happened with Silverstone a few years back. Bernie threatens to move the race in order to force the track owners into new facilities.
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This might be a repeat of what happened with Silverstone a few years back. Bernie threatens to move the race in order to force the track owners into new facilities.
Sounds like it to me.
I should think that finding investors in a new F1 track in Italy should be pretty easy to do. If no one else, surely Fiat would see the advantages.
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Italy isn't in great financial shape though, so while it may be a threat, I'm not sure whether the Italian government, or even private investors, are in a position to upgrade Monza's facilities at the moment.
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Keep in mind that Monza is actually a park and there are restrictions on what can be done to the facilities. Further, there is a staunch opposition group that would like the track shut down. Not everyone thinks "Racing is Life".
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Italy isn't in great financial shape though, so while it may be a threat, I'm not sure whether the Italian government, or even private investors, are in a position to upgrade Monza's facilities at the moment.
I think it's safe to say that Italian economics isn't exactly my strong suit. However, given that Italy has more F1 teams than any other nation save the UK, and has previously hosted two Grands Prix a season, surely there is an appetite for racing.
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Fiat is Ferrari and they own their own track. I'm not sure they would go out in support of Monza but I do agree they will want to keep F1 in Italy.
The problem with Italy is the corruption. There will be so many brown envelopes being passed around Bernie won't know which one to take; unless of course one is marked 'from The Family'.
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Italy isn't in great financial shape though, so while it may be a threat, I'm not sure whether the Italian government, or even private investors, are in a position to upgrade Monza's facilities at the moment.
I think it's safe to say that Italian economics isn't exactly my strong suit. However, given that Italy has more F1 teams than any other nation save the UK, and has previously hosted two Grands Prix a season, surely there is an appetite for racing.
You're right Jeri, the Tifosi will never allow the Bernie to take away their race, but I do think it would be a shame to move it from Monza. The track isn't the problem, and really, to update the facilities wouldn't take that many million. Fiat could do it just for good will.
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Keep in mind that Monza is actually a park and there are restrictions on what can be done to the facilities. Further, there is a staunch opposition group that would like the track shut down. Not everyone thinks "Racing is Life".
All true, and a very important point to remember. I even have an Italian friend who doesn't like Formula 1 and doesn't think it should race at Monza.
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After going to Catalunya this year and comparing that experience to Monza, there is really no comparison. Especially clear is the size and enthusiasm of the town you have to walk through on the long slog to the track. In Spain, they are all out there, full of flags and outdoor cafes trying to vacuum as much money out of your pockets (cheerfully) as they can, while in Monza, it is a drab little town, almost every store closed and blocked for race weekend (a couple of bars and one restaurant on the walk in if I recall correctly). On the walk to the track in Spain we were even able to buy a few lawn chairs at a price that was lower than the same chair in Barcelona itself. Too true that the locals look at the race weekend as a good time to get out of town, or at least batten the hatches and hide away...I can see there being little enthusiasm to retain the race, especially if it means spending any of their tax money.
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Drivers weigh in on Monza.
http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2014/07/03/f1-must-keep-popular-venues-like-monza-drivers/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+f1fanatic+%28F1+Fanatic+-+The+Formula+1+Blog%29 (http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2014/07/03/f1-must-keep-popular-venues-like-monza-drivers/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+f1fanatic+%28F1+Fanatic+-+The+Formula+1+Blog%29)
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Could Ferrari back Bernie?
http://www.worldcarfans.com/114070377611/mugello-could-step-in-amid-monza-problems---malago (http://www.worldcarfans.com/114070377611/mugello-could-step-in-amid-monza-problems---malago)
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It would be handy to have one's personal test track on the calender, wouldn't it? :nono:
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That way they could remotely deploy their super secret ion gun and kill off other teams engines. :crazy: :crazy: