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I wonder who the last F1 friver was that came from a family without money. I'd say Lewis  and Fisichella is all I can remember

Surprisingly perhaps there are at least three other real non silver spoon drivers currently in F1:- Alonso, Bottas & Ocon. All of these came from families of very modest or working class means.

Piastri had a similar start to Hamilton with his father taking mechanic duties in his early Karting career, although there was enough money for Oscar to be privately educated.
Similarly Russell had parents of somewhat limited means, certainly not Stroll, Latifi or Norris deep pockets, his siblings were also involved in motor racing.
Perez family too were of modest means and his big backer, Hamilton McLaren/Mercedes style, was from Carlos Slim's Telmex racing team.
Tsunoda owes his single seater car career to Honda's Formula Dream project, it obviously required a good karting record. One presumes the family funded his Karting, at first at least.

Think even more surprisingly Max can be considered somewhat similar to Lewis, Sure his father was in F1 but it seems Jos' constant tutoring, connections and Max's blinding talent got him into karts & cars without big bucks needed. Jos probably spent most of any F1 wages he earned on partying rather than family development.  :D 
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General F1 Discussion / Re: Ted Toleman founder of F1 team has died at the age of 86.
« Last post by Dare on April 12, 2024, 08:14:13 PM »
R.I.P., Ted. You will be missed.

When we ask about where new drivers are going to find seats, I think of how many future greats started at teams like Tolman, Hesketh, Minardi and the like. F1 was also much more fun with the garagistes in the mix.

Ironically it was winning the Formula 2 championship that gave Toleman the idea and leg up to try his luck in F1.

I say ironically as in last few days we have learnt that the highly successful Prema Formula 2 stalwarts have had to look over the pond to Indy cars to get higher up the motorsport ladder.  :crazy:

Now with liberty closed shop there's almost no chance of F2 teams having a go in F1, even if they've supplied almost all the next generation of drivers to the F1 grid.
 


I wonder who the last F1 friver was that came from a family without money. I'd say Lewis  and Fisichella is all I can remember
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General F1 Discussion / Re: Alonso stays at Aston Martin & signs until 26 for F1 team.
« Last post by Dare on April 12, 2024, 08:12:03 PM »
Would Aston Martin want two Spanish drivers?
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Is Alonso in it for just the money now or does he genuinely believe Aston Martin is ascendant?  Or does he enjoy a guarantee of being better than his teammate?

Is that a rhetorical question Jeri? Seems plausible that all that & more could apply.  :D

Unless of course Sainz gets the second seat.  :DD
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R.I.P., Ted. You will be missed.

When we ask about where new drivers are going to find seats, I think of how many future greats started at teams like Tolman, Hesketh, Minardi and the like. F1 was also much more fun with the garagistes in the mix.

Ironically it was winning the Formula 2 championship that gave Toleman the idea and leg up to try his luck in F1.

I say ironically as in last few days we have learnt that the highly successful Prema Formula 2 stalwarts have had to look over the pond to Indy cars to get higher up the motorsport ladder.  :crazy:

Now with liberty closed shop there's almost no chance of F2 teams having a go in F1, even if they've supplied almost all the next generation of drivers to the F1 grid.
 
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Is Alonso in it for just the money now or does he genuinely believe Aston Martin is ascendant?  Or does he enjoy a guarantee of being better than his teammate?
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Or, maybe Pops will tire of it, sell out to Mario & kin and Andretti will have instant grid access with Alonso as a driver.

Hey, I can dream, can't I?  ;)
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R.I.P., Ted. You will be missed.

When we ask about where new drivers are going to find seats, I think of how many future greats started at teams like Tolman, Hesketh, Minardi and the like. F1 was also much more fun with the garagistes in the mix.
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General F1 Discussion / Alonso stays at Aston Martin & signs until 26 for F1 team.
« Last post by John S on April 12, 2024, 02:50:28 PM »
Now that's one more piece of the driver market sorted, since Fernando is staying for new era cars one more team off the list for Sainz - or is it? 

Anyone think Papa Stroll might replace his own son with another Spaniard? 

https://f1i.com/news/505070-alonso-extends-aston-martin-contract-until-2026.html
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