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but he only just survives
nothing on formula1 com yet, but i got this from Al Beeb
Max Mosley has won a vote of confidence to stay on as president of motorsport's governing body, the FIA.
More than a third of delegates did not back the Englishman at Tuesday's meeting in Paris but he won 103-55.
Mosley called the vote following a newspaper report that he took part in a "Nazi-style orgy" with prostitutes, though he denied Nazi connotations.
US delegate Robert Darbelnet said he was disappointed with the outcome and may withdraw his country's membership.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/formula_one/7430939.stm
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The self interested have triumphed. What an awful day for the FIA.
Do these people think everyone is just going to forget about this mess now? Do they think that the people who have refused to be seen in public with Max are now going to be happy to appear with him? Do they think he can do his job in a darkened room where no-one ever needs to set eyes on him again.
The man cannot function!!!!!!!!!!
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Pathetic. Watch for a breakaway of F1 from the FIA spearheaded by Bernie (oh, the irony).
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It looks like the breakaway has already started. The bigger clubs with the most money look like setting up on their own. Well done Max and the minnows you have made a complete mess of this.
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/67958
Germany's national motoring body, ADAC, has been the first major organisation to react to Max Mosley's victory in today's confidence vote, saying they regret the result.
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/67959
Dutch motoring body president Guido Van Woerkom said he was unhappy but not surprised about the outcome of today's confidence vote against FIA president Max Mosley.
Van Woerkom believes Mosley benefited from the votes of smaller clubs, but he reckons the bigger bodies were against him.
"Well, we've known Max for a long time. He is always pushing the arguments against him away and he is promoting his own arguments," he added.
"And he has a lot of contacts with the smaller clubs and what we have seen in the general assembly is that more or less the smaller clubs are in favour.
"But when you look to the bigger clubs, the AAA (USA), the triple A in Australia, the JAF (Japan) of 70 million members, the ADAC in Germany, the NWB in the Netherlands, they all are against. So when you count the members behind the members then I don't think he will succeed."
Van Woerkom suggested some clubs are now likely to withdawn all involvement with the FIA, following ADAC's example.
"Yes, well, I am now away to have a lunch with those clubs and maybe that is the outcome of that discussion," he said.
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Perhaps this sums up the FIA. Max has not only survived in this organisation but actually grown in importance. All this, in spite of a long list of stupid decisions, questionable tatics and personal prejudices. The FIA obviously do not care what spectators, teams or sponsors think.
I couldn't care less what this idiot does in his private life but together with all of his other dodgy dealings it proves he is not fit to represent an international organisation of any kind.
Think back to some of the pompous opinions he openly expressed about Ron Dennis! How dare he sit in judgement of anyone when his own life is a disgrace.
Perhaps a new splinter group would be a breath of fresh air for Motor Sport.
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I wonder how the national sporting bodies will react to this. Here in the US, it's The Automobile Competition Committee of the United States (ACCUS). Two of ACCUS's biggest members, IRL and USAC, are under the control of Tony George. Tony isn't exactly Max's best buddy. IMSA will prob. go along with him, since their ALMS has become closley tied with IndyCar.
The other major block is the France family holdings (NASCAR, Grand Am). Any more, they tend to follow the cash.
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Sir Jackie Stewart is £50 richer because of Max's victory:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/main.jhtml?xml=/sport/2008/06/02/smgars102.xml
Seriously, JPS makes some very good points about Max's ability to represent the sport being badly compromised.
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from:-
http://www.formula1.com/news/headlines/2008/6/7869.html
After Tuesday’s Extraordinary General Assembly (EGA), the FIA released the following statement:
"During the EGA held in Paris today, the FIA Member Clubs voted on a motion of confidence in the FIA President. The FIA membership voted as follows:
For the motion: 103
Against the motion: 55
Abstentions: seven
Invalid votes: four
"Voting in the EGA was made by secret ballot. Votes were counted in private by the FIA legal department in the presence of four scrutineers, selected by the EGA from a list of Delegates proposed by the Chairman of the meeting (the President of the FIA Senate).
"The entire voting procedure was supervised by an external Huissier de Justice (French state-appointed public witness)."
Paris, 3 June, 2008.
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Is Max the yellow guy, or the purple guy? :o
Seriously - this is a great summation:
'The FIA member clubs will be asked to vote not so much on his suitability to rule but the inability of anyone else to perform the critical task of safeguarding the future of the governing body.
Mosley has outlined a doomsday scenario should he be cast aside, in which the regulatory body loses their independence and, as a consequence, their authority. Only he can keep the ship afloat, he has argued. But Bernie Ecclestone, Formula One's commercial-rights holder, remains convinced that it is in the best interests of the sport for Mosley to go.'
Umm, so let me get this straight. If Max stays, the FIA will retain all its' power over the sport governance? Gee, to me it seems like if he stays, most of the FIA sports may just withdraw from FIA governance. Can't wait to see Bernie's response on this.
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I saw a piece at the weekend quoting JYS saying he had a £100 bet on Max winning.
I thought the whole gist of Max's letter was that him contuing in the job was the only way the FIA would survive. Presumably now that this is patently not the case he will do the honourable thing and resign. :DD
Bernie put out a story this morning saying that if Max won he would stand again next year. Needless to say Max's henchmen immediately put out a piece saying he would definitely go. M money is on him standing again next year even if the FIA only has half a dozen members by then.
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My money is on him standing again next year even if the FIA only has half a dozen members by then.
That might be the only way he could win. ;)
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who does this nazi, trying to get indies whip, remind u of ?
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Well, well, the predictable naysayers and hand-wringing moralisers are out in droves still defending the positions they took since the story broke e.g. max will be out in a week etc ad nauseum, and now in their frustration are baying for blood unable to accept a decision and are spitting the dummy wholesale.
As for ADAC, AAA and others thinking of breaking away, what a miserable bunch of spineless whingers we have here. Tossing the dummy because the decision did not go the way they wanted. If there is no respect for a democratic vote then we have anarchy.
A pox on all their houses!
However, I do see the British Motor Sports Association has issued a statement it “… respects the decision of the FIA General Assembly concerning President Mosley and considers that it is now time to move on and for the sport to pull together…."
Hear, hear and bravo for one authority in the real world.
Hey Pleiades, where do ya get your comment "but he only just survives" when 103 of 169 delegates voted "yes" they had confidence in max? I think the wording "More than a third of delegates did not back the Englishman...” is a clumsy attempt to skewer the truth of almost two thirds of delegates actually did back him. If that were a result in any other election the correct description of the result would be a "bloody landslide"!
Steven Roy, max obviously functions very well; he is a political animal with well-honed survival skills after all. Methinks you are setting up your own coconuts just to knock them down. People will continue to be with him if only that money and power, like blood, are often a lot thicker than water.
In addition, I do hope max's wins litigation against the sleazy “News of the World” and I hope it shuts this useless waste of newsprint down, as the world will certainly be a much better place after its demise.
When the investigations finally unearth the low-lifes who were behind the obvious attempt to oust and discredit the FIA President, I for one am hoping they receive punitive punishment for their crimes. May I remind you they are the criminals not max! I subscribe to a well-established dictum of "just follow the money" and I think it will not be far from the corrupt F1 circus itself.
Bernie himself is now chest thumping and predicting dire circumstances if max continues as FIA President - all done just before the election in a blatant and clumsy attempt to influence, even intimidate the FIA voting members. I can but wonder if perhaps he is getting more than a little nervous and if so, the reasons for such apprehension?
Surely there is plenty of legally obtainable and publicly available information to damn max Mosley without having to stoop to something so base and tacky as this gross invasion of a person's right to a private life. I put it to you if we had an enemy determined to get something on us, how many of us would survive. Have we allowed other feelings about max and his sexual acts to cloud our judgement?
The actions of the 'News of the World' disgust me far more than max's apparent sexual predilections as their betrayal of ethical standards has far more implications in my life. All the hand-wringing that such a man is unfit etc and etc is akin to a hysteria of 'saintly' hypocrites whose moralising myopia has blinded them to see the real crime and the actual criminals.
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sennaman
its what they were saying on the radio, he probably needed to get a good majority of votes
but he'll be gone soon so who cares
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yes he did only just win
http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2008/06/03/max-mosley-wins-fia-vote-of-confidence/
he needed needed at least 89 of 177 available votes
He won with 103 votes to 55, with seven abstentions and four invalid votes.
if the 7 abstentions and 4 invalid votes went against him, that would mean he had 92 votes, a majority of 3
dosnt look very good for him
politicians abstein when they dont agree with whatever but dont want to vote against the government, and the spoiled votes were probably sum1 writing " u dirty old man"
so i stand by the comment :good: :good:
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The 24 clubs that wrote the letter to Max urging him to step down represent 89% of the motorists in the world affiliated with FIA supported motoring clubs. What that means is that if you add in the other 31 anonymous clubs that voted against him, you could certainly say that over 90% of the FIA represented motorists had their delegates vote AGAINST Max. He can bask in the glory of this win for a while, but like Steven said, when there are a half dozen clubs left in the FIA, will it really matter?
Say Wiz, can you check and see if Sennaman's computer is in an FIA building in Paris? Methinks he is actually Max.
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SennaMan,
If the major clubs breakaway what is left. A bunch of clubs who get money from the FIA. All the donors are about to leave the building.
You claim he functions very well. Did he function well in Bahrain? Were you impressed with the way he launched his racing against racism project in Barcelona while he was hiding in Jordan? Did he function well in Monaco when no-one not even Ferrari were prepared to be seen in public with him?
His justification for staying was that he was the only person who could save the FIA. I think he just might have been wrong about that.
Members of any club have the right to leave and set up their own club if they are unhappy about the way the club is being run or portrayed. It doesn't matter if it is the local golf club or the FIA. The clubs that finance the FIA and which represent 80 to 90% of its individual members are unhappy with Max being in charge so they look like they will choose to leave. That is their right. Do you think it is right that Max puts his own self interest above the future wellbeing of the FIA? Do you think that because in a secret ballot people who stand to gain from him holding on to his position voted for him that all the problems around him will go away?
He could not function yesterday. He will not be able to function tomorrow. He will never be able to function again.
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All power to Max for surviving the vote which most people, including me, thought would go against him.
I think it's a bit extreme to say he is unable to function, the present situation does limit his public appearances it's true but there is much more to the office of President than that.
Yes it may be true that the big clubs represent huge chunks of the population but that does not make the result of the vote undemocratic since the rules for voting are clearly defined in the constitution. Maybe some of the big clubs should have voiced their disapproval of the voting system before now and used their might to make it more proportionaly representative instead of just assuming the vote would go against Max. They seem to have failed the great public they claim to represent.
Max may just be proving a point with this vote and will step aside in the next few weeks, I feel sure even he realises there is no real winner from this, but he will still retain bragging rights.
Lets not forget Max has pushed through enormous safety gains for Motor Sport and motoring in general since the deaths of Senna, Ratzenburger, et al. The introduction of these costly measures have often been strongly opposed by the teams. Perhaps we should ask some of the drivers who have had massive shunts in the last couple of years how they feel about these safety changes Max forced through.
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Every time anyone looks to justify Max's existence we get the safety thing thrown up. There had not been a fatality at a race meeting in the 12 years before Imola 94 and only one driver had died in an F1 car in testing. Max's contribution to safety has been massively overstated. To repeat a question I have asked 1000 times. If you were FIA president going to work on 2nd May 1994 is there any way you would not have made safety you priority? Had Max really been interested in safety Senna would not have died at Tamburello because Max would have reacted to the ample evidence from the Piquet and Berger accidents at the same corner. It was sheer neglect by Max and his predecessor that caused Senna's death but all I ever read is Max made motor racing safe.
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My 2 cents worth.
Max survived... of course I'm not happy he is still there. My views on why Mr Mosely shouldn't be there stem from the fact that, he was recorded behaving in a manner that many people find deploreable. Now people like Sennaman crap on about invasion of privacy and it having no bearing what so ever on Moselys ability to perform the job. He is a public figure and public figures will always have their lives under the microscope, that is something that happens. Now if part of your job is being in the media's eye, or dealing with various clubs and teams that no longer wish to deal with you because something in your personal life has changed their view of you as a person, then you are no longer able to perform your job 100%. That is just a simple fact of human nature and life.
Now I can't stand Mosely as much as anyone else, I believe he has the right to act any way he likes in his private life, however if he was STUPID enough to allow evidence of the more distasteful parts of his private life to exist and even worse, have it's security compromised, then he get's everything he deserved. As for running the FIA, I believe that technically he is competent, not exceptional, but competent. But now, due to embarrassment or something else, he is getting others to make public appearences for him, this means he isn't doing the full job and as such, he should show us that he has motorsport and the FIAs interests in mind, by resigning.
Personally I don't care for conspiracy theories, NOTW is just a 'news' service like any other, I don't see people like Sennaman jumping up and down that major papers in the U.K. follow the royals around and report every aspect of their lives, or, papers the world over chasing celebrities, people like him aren't calling for these papers to be closed, so before you can accuse everyone of being hipocrites, make sure you look in that mirror too Sennaman.
As always, I mean no offence to anyone, and I could be wrong in my views. It's all just my opinion.
Rom
P.S. And like a wise 7 year old boy once said to me "opinions are like assh*les, everyone has one, and they ALL stink"
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It was Max's mishandling of the consequences of his extracurricular activities, rather than the activities themselves, that caused me to call for his dismissal. To judge from grandprix.com, the main reason why people voted for Max was the threat of instability - in other words, they were defending their organisation as a whole rather than Max himself. And since it was Max who was telling them there was an external threat, it's safe to say that it was fear rather than an approval of Max's capabilities that primarily influenced the voting.
The abstentions and invalid votes are basically ignored - they do not influence the decision and are assumed to agree with whatever is decided. Given that a majority was needed to win, they were effectively a weak vote against the one of confidence.
As to the safety thing, I would say that in the early years Max was very good (not just on safety, but on banning electronics in F1 and laying the foundations for Euro-NCAP) but that after the second term of office ended, he gradually lost his way. The first major sign being the ill-advised rule changes of 15 January 2003 (of which only parc fermé remains in the rule book, nearly everything else lasting only one year) and getting worse each time he tried to change anything. He started out a great president and eventually became the awful one before us now. The thing is that the FIA weren't supposed to be voting on whether Max was a great President. They were meant to vote on whether he would be a good President going into the future - or at least a bearable one. With Max's public power seriously curtailed and him stating in the letter to the FIA clubs that he was there for the big stuff as opposed to the day-to-day running of the group, I would suggest that the FIA cannot afford to bear Mosley as president.
I have seen no evidence that the News of the World deliberately lied or was recklessly wrong in its opinion (which it would have to have done in order for a full-blown lawsuit to work), but to be fair I never saw the video either (nor do I want to).
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My opinions (which as Rom would say may be wrong etc, etc.)_
Max is the President - it was teams of people below him who suggested rule changes, safety measures, etc. and he fronted those ideas. Quite rightly he would then take the glory or the rotten fruit if they were successful or failures but he certainly did not make motor racing safer single handed.
He has however unilaterally attacked teams and personalities within the sport with no mandate from the FIA (Ron Dennis, Sir Jackie Stewart, etc.).
He was also primarily responsible for taking the Stepneygate affair beyond all rational levels apparently to score against Ron Dennis.
He has admitted to using prostitutes, he accepts that he was at an S/M orgy, his only claim against the newspaper was that the orgy did not have Nazi connotations (oh well that's alright then. It's OK for the President of World's leading motor racing federation to have the morales of a sewer rat while trying to promote the sport to some of the most religious regions on the planet!).
The man is a rotten apple. Many of us on this forum have been saying so for a long while. The fact that he didn't even have the decency to step down immediately his private life brought the sport into disrepute says everything about the man's arrogance and lack of respect for the sport.
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I'm of two minds about the vote. One one hand, I think Max's private life his his own business. I wouldn't even necessarily call it immoral. It certainly doesn't amount to a cause for his removal.
On the other hand, Max's term at the helm of the FIA has been a disaster. Just in the past few years, we've had the over reaction to the Stepney affair, the personal attacks on people like Stewart and Dennis, the fiasco at Indy in 2005 and, worst of all, the sweetheart deal with Bernie. Most of the advances that have happened during his term, like the safety issues, were mostly the products of The Technical Working Group, the GPDA and others.
Max need to go, and go quickly. He is a blight on the sport. Just not for this reason.
As with Rom and others, it's just my opinion.
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Sir Jackie was knighted in 2001 because he put saftey before popularity.
Please excuse my ignorance, but wtf has Max done?
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I am surprised at your ignorance pleiades. Max made Bernie rich and if the stories are to be believed Max then allegedly mad Max rich.
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Hey guys, this is starting to get personal, not good. :nono:
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I agree Ian... let's agree that we are all passionate about this subject... we are never all going to agree on all the fine points...
No matter which way you lean on the votes and the story.... it's over now... he stayed.
Rom
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I am surprised at your ignorance pleiades. Max made Bernie rich and if the stories are to be believed Max then allegedly mad Max rich.
I think it was a joke, Ian.
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lets save our hate for james allen :crazy:
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lets save our hate for james allen :crazy:
I'm with you all the way! :yahoo:
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Of course it was a joke. The previous line was 'excuse my ignorance.....'
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It's all good guys... I was agreeing with Ian because of my statement... I feel it was overly aggressive to Sennaman... at the time I felt he was rather harsh in his statement and took it personally even though i wasn't mentioned... that's all
I can't wait for this canadian race though.... it's gonna be gooooooooood
Rom
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It's all good guys... I was agreeing with Ian because of my statement... I feel it was overly aggressive to Sennaman... at the time I felt he was rather harsh in his statement and took it personally even though i wasn't mentioned... that's all
I can't wait for this canadian race though.... it's gonna be gooooooooood
Rom
thanks Rom, I am quite relaxed about any perceived aggression as I welcome robust debate and passionate views even if some cannot keep within reasonable bounds of debating protocols.
However, if some of the members carefully reread my posting they will see I do not support max as FIA President at all, only this despicable way of getting rid of him - a sting operation involving illegal and gross invasions of privacy.
He and the FIA in many ways are an anachronism in this millennia - the "Stepneygate" and the consequent "Renault Spy Saga" decisions were an absolute disgrace to any concept of justice for example - and need to drastically reform their structure and processes or be consigned to the 'dustbin' of history.
I actually think max should be replaced within a much reformed FIA as dictatorships have no place anywhere in our world. This current saga may yet prove to be the start of much needed reform.
Also, which should be obvious from my earlier posting(s), I am vehemently against the "gutter press" that unfortunately seems able to operate with relative impunity especially in the UK, and I await the results of litigation against the NoTW newspaper with much interest.
If they win then God help us all as anyone could be a target of their and similar publications' muckracking.
We are indeed fortunate to be living in Australia Rom for this and many other reasons but that is indeed a matter for another forum.
Yeah, roll on the racing Rom.
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I think we can all agree that Max is a disaster for the sport and must go. The only disagreement is the how and why.
Like SennaMan, I think Max's personal life is just that, personal. I've seen too many good people driven from office over that kind of thing. Here in Ohio, we just had an excellent state Attorney General forced from office because he's been with a prostitute. And I won't even go into the Clinton matter.
The damage that Max has done to the sport during his tenure at the FIA is more than sufficient to boot his backside out of office and into the Old Despots' Home.
I mean no offense to anyone by this (except Max ;) ). Just my opinion.
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:good: No harm done, sorry lads I did'nt read them fully. :-[
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I think we can all agree that Max is a disaster for the sport and must go. The only disagreement is the how and why.
I agree too. Can he possibly feel comfortable with all these people taking the p*ss all the time, because that's exactly what is going to be happening.
Max's problem is that he is putting his own ego and personal grudges before the interests of F1, something he has been doing for years.
OK so now he has won the vote. He has proved a point. Now can he please p*ss off once and for all, before he created any more havoc.
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Let's nail this "his private life has no bearing on the matter" crap once and for all. Like it or not, the fact is that everyone's morality does affect the way they do their jobs.
Consider this:
You're the CEO of a bank and need a new general manager. Two guys apply; they are equal in qualifications but one is a convicted embezzler, the other a feller who has proved his honesty over and over again. Which one are you going to take on? And don't tell me you'd give it to the embezzler because he's done his time and deserves the chance to prove his rehabilitation. If you did, you'd be guilty of gross negligence, endangering the investments of your customers. Your job is to ensure that your investors get the best return on their money and not to endanger that money on well-intentioned but unnecessary risks.
In Max's case, whether or not the NOTW have been guilty of breaking the law in releasing details of his hobbies, his morality has been shown to be flawed in that he assisted in the exploitation of women for his personal lusts without regard for his standing as President of the FIA. He has been shown to put his own needs above those of the organization he is supposed to serve and we can expect that he will follow his own agenda in the performance of his job therefore. The NOTW revelations are most revealing in that they explain many of the apparently self-motivated decisions taken by Mosley in his governance of F1.
We may not like the gutter press and its methods but that is a separate issue. They have chosen to make money by pandering to the prurience of the many and they take their chances of litigation as a result. Their editor could be said to have done a fine job for Mr Murdoch in that he has found a story that shifts millions more papers, at least for a while. Once again, morality proves to be a deciding factor in how well a man does his job - in this case, it is an advantage to be so unconcerned about another's privacy.
But Max is not the editor of NOTW. He is the president of an international organization that needs to be seen as respectable and fair. His morality alone is sufficient disqualification for the job.
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I agree with you Cham, unfortunately at this time a majority of the FIA council doesn't.
I personally find it hard to see a way forward for most parties without Max resigning and I'm keeping my fingers crossed that Max also realises this.
I'll wager that, after giving a little time for his detractors blood pressures to go through the roof, he will step down. He has needed, for his own peculiar view on life, to prove he can still call the shots. The trouble is there are only blanks left in the armoury
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I'm afraid I have to disagree with you, Cham. Embezzlment has a direct connection to banking. By defintion, embezzlment has victims. Private sexual activity has nothing to do with running the FIA. Since everyone involved were concenting adults, there were no victims. I see no moral issue here.
I'd be the first to say that Max needs to go, but he needs to go because of his abysmal job performance, not for this.
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Prostitution very often (though not always) has victims - the ones being paid to have sex are often exploited by their bosses in their line of work. However, Cos, I can see where the rest of your argument is coming from. Though Max's inability to handle the consequences of the matter after it reached the ears of the press speaks to his ability to handle any other controversial matter that may occur during his tenure as President (whether it is a person/ethical matter or not), and therefore it does fatally affect his ability to do the job, albeit in a rather circuitous manner (as opposed to Clive's example, where embezzlement itself affects the ability of the embezzler to competently do any job involving access to money).
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I'm afraid I have to disagree with you, Cham. Embezzlment has a direct connection to banking. By defintion, embezzlment has victims. Private sexual activity has nothing to do with running the FIA. Since everyone involved were concenting adults, there were no victims. I see no moral issue here.
I'd be the first to say that Max needs to go, but he needs to go because of his abysmal job performance, not for this.
Entirely with you on this, cosworth151 - and sooner the better for the sport we love mate!
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Private sexual activity has nothing to do with running the FIA. Since everyone involved were concenting adults, there were no victims. I see no moral issue here.
I Believe this falls under the heading of bringing the FIA into disrepute. Public moral codes are not necessarily what we all would like them to be and are a lot more conservative than we often believe, the furore and outrage suggests public morals do not yet condone this bizarre behavior.
I share the apprehensions of public figures being judged on their private lives but it does appear that the PR perception of this particular affair, for most businesses and organisations, is very negative and makes Max's position untenable.
Whilst what Max did may not be strictly illegal from his part, it may be that the other participants were acting illegally, the law in Britain makes a distinction between one sex worker and multiple sex workers at the same premises. Max like all public figures understands care must be excercised in your private life, it's not the deed but getting caught in the act that brings them down.
The conclusion therefore for the big majority of public figures is to refrain from activity that can lead to this sort of firestorm, it's this self denial that makes them worthy leaders.
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I think the fact that a high official indulges in Fantasies, S&M behaviour says a lot about that person's mental and character make up. I think most people should be judged in situations where they think they will not be found out or when they think they can get away. Will a man stop from forcible sex , if he thinks he can get away with it due to various circumstances ????
The fact that Max has to indulge in these escapades at his age itself is a clear indicator, that all is not well with him mentally as well as psychologically.
He may be capable of great harm if he is allowed to continue. The fact that he thinking that he will not be found out led him to indulge in his darkest fanstasies while maintaining a facade in his other social interactions. Do you know what he may be thinking ?
These are the type of people who perpetuated an age of horror when given free rein by a dictator and this proves that they exist among us.
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good points Raindancer
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That is exactly my point, Cozzy - a man's morality does have a direct bearing on the performance of his job. I know it's an old fashioned notion but that doesn't make it wrong. Examples of how things can go wrong when we appoint people to important positions regardless of their private lives (and so their morality) are all around us and form a major source of news for the gutter press these days. Being so broad-minded and desperate not to appear out of date, we try to to avoid the obvious - that, if a man is selfish, depraved, egotistical, interested in the humiliation of others, he will be the same man subject to the same lusts when at his desk in the office. This applies to Max and is almost certainly the root cause of his increasingly insane handling of the FIA since he shrugged off Bernie's influence.
None of us is perfect, that goes without saying. But, when a man admits that, not only has he been shown to be subject to lusts that require him to disregard the interests of others, but also that he has carried on these pursuits for forty years, one has to doubt his suitability for any position of prominence. The man should go for his incompetent governance of F1, yes, but his morality remains just as good a reason for his departure.
Incidentally, this is the beginning of a long debate that has nothing to do with F1 and everything to do with our personal beliefs. Dare we risk it? ;)
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It's simple. Do what you do, but don't get caught. If you get caught, behave like a man.