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Title: Stroll to "Force India (or Whatever)"!
Post by: Jericoke on November 30, 2018, 05:56:04 PM
https://www.bbc.com/sport/formula1/46342907 (https://www.bbc.com/sport/formula1/46342907)

As the article points out, this is one of the least surprising things to happen in F1 in quite a while, given his father's ownership of Force India (or whatever they'll be called.)

There was one paragraph in the article that caught my eye:
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However, other than the odd highlight, he has been unconvincing in his two seasons so far and Williams are not unhappy to see him go, despite the tens of millions the Stroll family invested in the team.

Clearly with the season over, the editors have gone on vacation too.  I understand what Benson means to say, but only from the context of the entire story being old news.
Title: Re: Stroll to "Force India (or Whatever)"!
Post by: Calman on November 30, 2018, 10:59:51 PM
Yes, trying to spice up, boring, old, obvious news in all honesty!!

It's not exactly going to shake up the grid, or indeed, his own performance in the car.  I don't see Stroll ever becoming anyone more than a mid pack driver, so even with all the money and the early hype, it's nothing to write home about.

In 2019, I am keen to see the Renault partnership with Hulk and Danny Ric, Ferrari partnership with Seb and Leclerc ... and possibly even RBR partnership with Gasly and Mad Max!!!

Best Regards,
Cal :)
Title: Re: Stroll to "Force India (or Whatever)"!
Post by: cosworth151 on December 01, 2018, 02:26:20 PM
It does carry the idea of a "pay driver" to the extreme. Maybe they should rename it Force $troll. I wonder if Stroll can be bad enough for his dad to fire him.

I do worry what will happen to the team when the Stroll family gives up on Lance's racing career.
Title: Re: Stroll to "Force India (or Whatever)"!
Post by: Dare on December 01, 2018, 03:43:14 PM
A move to Indycar Cos.
Title: Re: Stroll to "Force India (or Whatever)"!
Post by: Jericoke on December 01, 2018, 04:10:40 PM
It's not exactly going to shake up the grid, or indeed, his own performance in the car.  I don't see Stroll ever becoming anyone more than a mid pack driver, so even with all the money and the early hype, it's nothing to write home about.

Stroll clearly wasn't ready for F1, but he has a podium and qualifying success.  He's one of the best starters on the grid.  He reminds me of Button, having the tools but taking time to put them together AND have a seat that he can win in.

2019 will be his make or break.  He's never going to have a better opportunity in F1 to prove what he can do.  He's lucky for sure, but he's got the opportunity, so we'll see what he's really capable of.
Title: Re: Stroll to "Force India (or Whatever)"!
Post by: Jericoke on December 01, 2018, 04:13:01 PM
It does carry the idea of a "pay driver" to the extreme. Maybe they should rename it Force $troll. I wonder if Stroll can be bad enough for his dad to fire him.

I do worry what will happen to the team when the Stroll family gives up on Lance's racing career.

Running an F1 team is a lot of work, but can be a lot of fun.  Hopefully Racing Point takes the challenge seriously and see it as more than a hobby for Lance.  NASCAR and IndyCar has teams run by former drivers who are better at running teams than racing cars, why not F1?
Title: Re: Stroll to "Force India (or Whatever)"!
Post by: Alianora La Canta on December 01, 2018, 04:56:58 PM
That sentence Jericoke quoted seemed like something I'd write on a bad day...
Title: Re: Stroll to "Force India (or Whatever)"!
Post by: guest3164 on December 01, 2018, 07:59:17 PM
I'm relieved he's not at Williams any more and I apologise to the Canadians here for that.  He starts well, then goes backwards and his qualifying is still appalling, losing out this season to Sirotkin for goodness sake.  If Perez doesn't beat him, I will be convinced it is due to the team working hard in Stroll's favour and that is sad to feel about a team that is full of hard racers.
Title: Re: Stroll to "Force India (or Whatever)"!
Post by: John S on December 01, 2018, 08:53:40 PM
I'd have thought a better name than Racing point would be 'the F1 Strollers'.  ;)
Title: Re: Stroll to "Force India (or Whatever)"!
Post by: lkjohnson1950 on December 02, 2018, 01:59:25 AM
 :o   :DD :DD
Title: Re: Stroll to "Force India (or Whatever)"!
Post by: Dare on December 02, 2018, 03:24:28 AM
I'd have thought a better name than Racing point would be 'the F1 Strollers'.  ;)


I think I might like F1 Stroll & Son's
Title: Re: Stroll to "Force India (or Whatever)"!
Post by: Calman on December 02, 2018, 08:28:52 PM
Stroll & Son's is starting to sound like the business next door to Trotter's Independent Traders (T.I.T.) in Peckham!  :DD

Best Regards,
Cal :)
Title: Re: Stroll to "Force India (or Whatever)"!
Post by: Dare on December 02, 2018, 11:27:37 PM
Sergio's seat may be at risk if Lance has any sibling or cousins interesting in
racing in F1
Title: Re: Stroll to "Force India (or Whatever)"!
Post by: John S on December 02, 2018, 11:36:09 PM
Chicco's seat really will be in serious doubt, at Racing point or any other team, if Lance outscores him this coming season.
Title: Re: Stroll to "Force India (or Whatever)"!
Post by: guest3164 on December 03, 2018, 07:34:31 AM
One thing in Sergio's favour is he brings a not inconsiderable amount of cash from Mexico that undoubtedly helps pay a chunk of the team's budget.  As long as that keeps coming and he doesn't kick up a fuss, I think he'll be kept on.
Title: Re: Stroll to "Force India (or Whatever)"!
Post by: Dare on December 03, 2018, 01:02:45 PM
One thing in Sergio's favour is he brings a not inconsiderable amount of cash from Mexico that undoubtedly helps pay a chunk of the team's budget.  As long as that keeps coming and he doesn't kick up a fuss, I think he'll be kept on.


You mean kicking up a fussby making lance look bad
Title: Re: Stroll to "Force India (or Whatever)"!
Post by: Alianora La Canta on December 03, 2018, 01:39:29 PM
I don't think there are any other F1-interested cousins in the Stroll family. Lance has a sister... ...who tried to become a singer. No idea what she does now.
Title: Re: Stroll to "Force India (or Whatever)"!
Post by: Dare on December 03, 2018, 01:44:56 PM
I don't think there are any other F1-interested cousins in the Stroll family. Lance has a sister... ...who tried to become a singer. No idea what she does now.


I didn't know I had a half brother until about 5 months
ago. Maybe Lance does too  ;)
Title: Re: Stroll to "Force India (or Whatever)"!
Post by: guest3164 on December 03, 2018, 03:12:33 PM
One thing in Sergio's favour is he brings a not inconsiderable amount of cash from Mexico that undoubtedly helps pay a chunk of the team's budget.  As long as that keeps coming and he doesn't kick up a fuss, I think he'll be kept on.


You mean kicking up a fussby making lance look bad


Pretty much, yup!
Title: Re: Stroll to "Force India (or Whatever)"!
Post by: John S on December 03, 2018, 04:52:29 PM
I don't think there are any other F1-interested cousins in the Stroll family. Lance has a sister... ...who tried to become a singer. No idea what she does now.

They're not related but I'm sure I read that Nicholas Latifi's dad had put money into Stroll's buyout pot - or was it another team - or both?  :confused:

If he's part of the consortium in time young Nic may join an all Canadian party at Racing Point.
Title: Re: Stroll to "Force India (or Whatever)"!
Post by: guest3164 on December 03, 2018, 05:39:44 PM

They're not related but I'm sure I read that Nicholas Latifi's dad had put money into Stroll's buyout pot - or was it another team - or both?  :confused:

If he's part of the consortium in time young Nic may join an all Canadian party at Racing Point.

Latifi put money into McLaren and has also clearly put a wedge into Williams given his son has been announced as Williams' reserve driver for 2019! 
Title: Re: Stroll to "Force India (or Whatever)"!
Post by: Jericoke on December 03, 2018, 08:15:42 PM

They're not related but I'm sure I read that Nicholas Latifi's dad had put money into Stroll's buyout pot - or was it another team - or both?  :confused:

If he's part of the consortium in time young Nic may join an all Canadian party at Racing Point.

Latifi put money into McLaren and has also clearly put a wedge into Williams given his son has been announced as Williams' reserve driver for 2019!

It is hard for Canadian racers to break into 'big league' racing.  We don't have any domestic series that garner attention, especially not open wheel.  Canadians have to travel to the USA, Europe or Asia to get their foot in the door, but we're seen as outsiders, the junior series are meant to promote local talent. 

Naturally in motorsport, money talks.  I'm not sure why we suddenly have Canadians paying to get into F1, I would expect paying to run in lower series and getting good results would gain attention in F1.  Coverage for Canadian racers in Canada is scant, so I'd never heard of Stroll pre Williams, nor Latifi until just today.

(I think the defecit in Canadian motorsport goes back to Greg Moore.  He probably would have ended up in F1 just as Jacques' career was winding down which would have kept nationwide interest in the sport high)
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