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Title: Hinchcliffe Indy crash
Post by: Dare on May 20, 2015, 04:37:37 AM

Lucky to be alive,another cargoes airborne....they need
to look at the design flaw


http://fox59.com/2015/05/19/report-james-hinchcliffe-suffered-massive-blood-loss-in-crash-during-indianapolis-500-practice/
Title: Re: Hinchcliffe Indy crash
Post by: F1fanaticBD on May 21, 2015, 01:54:08 PM
Few decades ago this could have been very fatal, Ronnie Peterson perished with similar sort of injury, but now a days with improvement of emergency care, people not only walk away but return to the racing in a minimal time.
Title: Re: Hinchcliffe Indy crash
Post by: Dare on May 21, 2015, 09:42:18 PM
BD I was a big Peterson fan and I ran across the
article on his last GP.It's a good read and it shows how
close the drivers,owners,mechanics,and all involved in
F1 were.

http://www.ronniepeterson.se/subc/eng/m78.html
Title: Re: Hinchcliffe Indy crash
Post by: F1fanaticBD on May 22, 2015, 11:39:54 AM
BD I was a big Peterson fan and I ran across the
article on his last GP.It's a good read and it shows how
close the drivers,owners,mechanics,and all involved in
F1 were.

http://www.ronniepeterson.se/subc/eng/m78.html

Brilliant post Dare, it really seems from another world, another time. They raced for the sake of racing, nothing else mattered much.
Title: Re: Hinchcliffe Indy crash
Post by: cosworth151 on May 22, 2015, 12:24:11 PM
Good find, Dare. As BD said, it was a different time. It was still more sport than big business.

Another irony: There have been two American WDC's. The year Mario won, his teammate was Peterson. Peterson was killed that year in a shunt at Monza.

The other American WDC was Phil Hill. The year he won, his teammate was Wolfgang von Tripps. von Tripps was killed that year in a shunt at Monza.
Title: Re: Hinchcliffe Indy crash
Post by: F1fanaticBD on May 22, 2015, 12:35:09 PM
Good find, Dare. As BD said, it was a different time. It was still more sport than big business.

Another irony: There have been two American WDC's. The year Mario won, his teammate was Peterson. Peterson was killed that year in a shunt at Monza.

The other American WDC was Phil Hill. The year he won, his teammate was Wolfgang von Tripps. von Tripps was killed that year in a shunt at Monza.

And a chilling co-incident, they both were extremely fast and seen as future world champion.
Title: Re: Hinchcliffe Indy crash
Post by: J.Clark on May 22, 2015, 02:46:42 PM
More here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qvtAq7K0uYo
Title: Re: Hinchcliffe Indy crash
Post by: cosworth151 on May 22, 2015, 03:24:12 PM
Robin Miller talks about the real heroes of the story - the Holmatro IndyCar Safety crew. The crash sounds even worse than it did at first. Miller says that the suspension arm penetrated both of Hinch's legs and lodged in his pelvis.

http://www.racer.com/more/viewpoints/item/117004-miller-safety-team-saviors-do-it-again
Title: Re: Hinchcliffe Indy crash
Post by: lkjohnson1950 on May 23, 2015, 08:58:15 AM
It's a toss up between Indy and NASCAR as to who has the better safety teams, I give a slight edge to the Indycar boys. Both certainly leave all other series in the dust.
Title: Re: Hinchcliffe Indy crash
Post by: Scott on May 27, 2015, 08:23:42 PM
It's a toss up between Indy and NASCAR as to who has the better safety teams, I give a slight edge to the Indycar boys. Both certainly leave all other series in the dust.

The oval excuse doesn't hold up either.  Both NASCAR and Indycar race on road courses and the medical team response is a fraction of F1's.  F1 with all its money should have at least 5 fully equipped emergency trucks with all extraction and medical equipment at their fingertips.  Just because Merc gives Bernie or the FIA (or both) doesn't mean it makes sense to have a hot rod as the medical car that doesn't have room to hold anything.  Fly them to every race at Bernie's expense.
Title: Re: Hinchcliffe Indy crash
Post by: lkjohnson1950 on May 28, 2015, 06:57:44 AM
Apparently the major problem was that the arm severed a major artery and James nearly bled to death. Another kudo to Indycar safety for arriving and acting quickly enough to prevent that.
Title: Re: Hinchcliffe Indy crash
Post by: cosworth151 on June 03, 2015, 03:11:53 PM
The Holmatro safety crew tells what they did:

http://www.racer.com/more/viewpoints/item/117465-miller-deliverance-the-amazing-rescue-of-james-hinchcliffe
Title: Re: Hinchcliffe Indy crash
Post by: Jericoke on June 03, 2015, 04:22:31 PM
The Holmatro safety crew tells what they did:

http://www.racer.com/more/viewpoints/item/117465-miller-deliverance-the-amazing-rescue-of-james-hinchcliffe

It is amazing these people who prepare for the worst, hope they never have to do their job, and yet remain calm, professional and can execute lifesaving actions easier than I can order a pizza.

I also like the comparison with Zanardi (thankfully for Hinch not a complete copy of injuries).  I remember reading that Zanardi had lost so much blood they called for a priest.
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