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Title: Monaco
Post by: Monty on May 21, 2015, 10:13:01 AM
Watching FP1 on Sky (work is over rated anyway!). Hamilton and Vettel look like they are in a class of their own. They are consistently banging in times considerably quicker than anyone else.
Hamilton is 0.4 ahead of Vettel and Vettel is a further 0.5 ahead of Kimi. Rosberg is close to Kimi but then there is another half second back to Massa.
Button's car has suffered from the same ERS problem and he only got out with 20minutes to go!
Title: Re: Monaco
Post by: Steve A. on May 21, 2015, 10:26:56 AM
Looks like Button is in for a troubled season, shame to go out on a low if it is his last season. Pray for rain during qauli,  to mix it up a bit and maybe make it a bit more of a race. I just hope it's not a procession.

Title: Re: Monaco
Post by: J.Clark on May 21, 2015, 02:26:59 PM
 :crazy: :crazy: :crazy: Max putting his .1 seconds behind Lewis in Free Practice 1.
1.  Hamilton   Mercedes   1m 18.750
2.  Verstappen    Toro Rosso   1m 18.899
3.  Ricciardo   Red Bull   1m 19.086
4.  Vettel      Ferrari   1m 19.134
5.  Sainz Jr      Toro Rosso   1m 19.245
6.  Maldonado   Lotus    1m 19.454
7.  Kvyat      Red Bull   1m 19.520
8.  Raikkonen   Ferrari   1m 19.679
9.  Rosberg      Mercedes   1m 19.762
10. Massa      Williams   1m 19.766
11. Alonso      McLaren   1m 19.791
12. Button      McLaren   1m 20.202
13. Grosjean   Lotus    1m 20.274
14. Perez      Force India   1m 20.619
15. Hulkenberg   Force India   1m 20.784
16. Nasr      Sauber   1m 20.857
17. Bottas      Williams   1m 20.917
18. Ericsson   Sauber   1m 21.219
19. Stevens   Manor    1m 23.234
20. Merhi      Manor    1m 23.404
Title: Re: Monaco
Post by: Monty on May 21, 2015, 02:38:27 PM
Hamilton went almost a second faster in FP2 before the rain came. He was fast in the rain as well!
I think it will be a Mercedes benefit unless something happens in qualifying (like your team mate cheating by ruining your fast lap!).
A wet qualifying would certainly be interesting but the forecast for Saturday is good.
Title: Re: Monaco
Post by: John S on May 21, 2015, 08:58:47 PM
Looks like Button is in for a troubled season, shame to go out on a low if it is his last season.

All this talk of Jens last season is rubbish IMHO, he's got a two year contract with Macca so he'll be there come Aus GP 2016.

 
Title: Re: Monaco
Post by: Irisado on May 21, 2015, 10:34:43 PM
It was a very uneventful practice today.  I hope that the meeting livens up on Saturday and Sunday.  If it rains, it would make things interesting, but apparently the chances of that are receding.

Still, things can always happen at Monaco, so I'm going to be optimistic.  Let's hope for a slightly mixed up grid and an evenful race.
Title: Re: Monaco
Post by: J.Clark on May 22, 2015, 02:50:08 PM
This is interesting view for particularly for those who have never been to Monaco.  The barriers are in place obviously, but this is what normal traffic looks like, even when there is no race.

https://www.facebook.com/massafelipe19/videos/vb.406696696171136/457020924472046/?type=2&theater
Title: Re: Monaco
Post by: Ian on May 22, 2015, 05:37:38 PM
Good one J.C, pretty tight eh.  :good:
Title: Re: Monaco
Post by: cosworth151 on May 22, 2015, 06:35:38 PM
Very cool, J.C. REminded me of the one Tiago Monteiro did for the 2006 season dvd. The track is the same.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=taRQu3bHm0E

Some of us oldsters remember that, up until about 10 years ago, most team garages were up in the hills. The drivers drove their cars down to the track every morning & back up every night.
Title: Re: Monaco
Post by: cosworth151 on May 22, 2015, 07:35:58 PM
A little something to get you all in the mood.

Monaco 1960:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9IrZ5q9BOFc

...and 1965:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uKb9FixAFjw
Title: Re: Monaco
Post by: Steve A. on May 23, 2015, 09:31:32 AM
For anyone in the UK, there is a program on BBC 2 this afternoon at 4:10, Formula 1 Rewind. Showing coverage of the Monaco race over the years. Might be worth a look, I'll be recording it to watch later.
Title: Re: Monaco
Post by: Wizzo on May 23, 2015, 09:39:08 AM
Thanks DH1, I'll be recording that for sure.  :good:
Title: Re: Monaco
Post by: J.Clark on May 23, 2015, 11:19:34 AM
Thanks Cos - nice clips.

FP3:
1.  Vettel      Ferrari   1m 16.143
2. Rosberg      Mercedes   1m 16.361
3.  Hamilton   Mercedes   1m 16.705
4.  Ricciardo   Red Bull   1m 17.120
5.  Sainz Jr      Toro Rosso   1m 17.256
6.  Raikkonen   Ferrari   1m 17.401
7.  Kvyat      Red Bull   1m 17.471
8.  Button      McLaren   1m 17.767
9.  Verstappen    Toro Rosso   1m 17.788
10. Grosjean   Lotus           1m 17.806
11. Perez      Force India   1m 17.832
12. Maldonado   Lotus    1m 17.956
13. Hulkenberg   Force India   1m 18.102
14. Alonso      McLaren   1m 18.197
15. Bottas      Williams   1m 18.212
16. Massa      Williams   1m 18.242
17. Nasr      Sauber   1m 18.767
18. Ericsson   Sauber   1m 19.269

Great work from Vettel.
Nico looks stronger since his win.
Button did well too.
What the heck is going on with Williams???
19. Stevens   Manor    1m 21.093
20. Merhi      Manor    1m 22.225
Title: Re: Monaco
Post by: J.Clark on May 24, 2015, 10:58:16 PM
I guess with the passing of time, we will find out what happened to Massa.  It was never discussed during the race in the NBCSports coverage of what happened, other than perhaps we'll get to see a reply, which never came.

Lewis handled the interview fairly well I thought, all things considered.

I am happy for Nico and Vettel though.

Button has to be absolutely elated!
Title: Re: Monaco
Post by: Dare on May 24, 2015, 11:16:57 PM
Another F1 procession made a little more
watchable by the big pit stop for Lewis.

Nice to see Ferrari back though I wonder what Kimi's
problem is.Now this is only my personal opinion I
wouldn't be surprised to see Bottas in his seat next year.

I too wonder what happened to Massa?Well on to Canada
Title: Re: Monaco
Post by: J.Clark on May 25, 2015, 01:34:50 AM
Here is what happened to Williams.

http://www.williamsf1.com/racing/news/monacograndprix
Title: Re: Monaco
Post by: Steve A. on May 25, 2015, 09:46:58 AM
Bit of a crazy finish to the race, a wierd decision by Mercedes. The stewards decisions are again a bit inconsistent.  A penalty for Along but not for Ricciardo. Great to see Button picking up the first points for Maclaren,  a long road ahead but progress none the less.
Title: Re: Monaco
Post by: Alianora La Canta on May 25, 2015, 05:15:07 PM
The highlights got through the first 38 laps in 35 minutes (including the entire pre-show!), which said a lot. The only memorable events for me were Verstappen not noticing that Grosjean's car was acting weird (that was understandable given his inexperience, his car doing a tin-opener impression against the wall was not) and Mercedes forgetting how long the Monaco pit lane was.
Title: Re: Monaco
Post by: cosworth151 on May 25, 2015, 09:03:43 PM
the only possible justification I can see for Merc was the VSC call which changed quickly to SC. Under VSC, the cars would have maintained their intervals. Hamilton would have had enough time for the pit stop.
Title: Re: Monaco
Post by: Monty on May 26, 2015, 09:05:10 AM
Fairly awful race (as we would expect for Monaco). I was excited to see Button in the points and I wonder where he could have been if Rosberg hadn't ruined his Qualifying. It was a real shame to see the Williams performing so badly and then further compromised by bad luck.
Verstappen and Sainz showed some talent at a difficult track. I agree with other comments that Kimi is really underperforming and I cannot see him retaining his seat. Vettel (hard for me to say) drove brilliantly.
Hamilton's drive was probably the most dominant that I can remember. To drive that fast from lap one wold be good at any track but at Monaco it is nothing short of amazing. He was over 20seconds ahead of Rosberg in the same car on the same strategy! There was clearly only one moral winner and it wasn't Rosberg.
Title: Re: Monaco
Post by: lkjohnson1950 on May 27, 2015, 07:20:49 AM
Hamilton is faster than Nico, no doubt. If you were watching closely, he got most of his lead by being quicker in traffic than Nico, He has been a dynamic passer since he started in F1. It seems clear the Williams, by accident or design, is not a high down force car, it was bound to be troublesome at Monaco. I think it will return to form in Canada. Kimi has been much happier with this year's Ferrari, but they brought an update package to Barca that did not perform as expected. Kimi immediately began complaining about understeer again. If they can get the car as twitchy as he seems to want, he will produce results.
Title: Re: Monaco
Post by: Scott on May 27, 2015, 08:05:22 PM
The biggest smile I got in the race was hearing Kimi on the radio after Ricciardo pitted him just before the tunnel.  He said 'Did you see what he did there??  That was not very nice'. 

Wizzo, I think I might need a new Kimi quote mug.   :DD :DD :DD
Title: Re: Monaco
Post by: Scott on May 29, 2015, 08:58:43 AM
The biggest smile I got in the race was hearing Kimi on the radio after Ricciardo pitted him just before the tunnel.  He said 'Did you see what he did there??  That was not very nice'. 

Wizzo, I think I might need a new Kimi quote mug.   :DD :DD :DD

Found it...

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jodAhKMDxvc
Title: Re: Monaco
Post by: Irisado on May 29, 2015, 04:57:15 PM
The highlights got through the first 38 laps in 35 minutes (including the entire pre-show!), which said a lot. The only memorable events for me were Verstappen not noticing that Grosjean's car was acting weird (that was understandable given his inexperience, his car doing a tin-opener impression against the wall was not) and Mercedes forgetting how long the Monaco pit lane was.

My feelings exactly.  Those two incidents apart this was so tedious.  Monaco is meant to be hard on the cars and the drivers, yet hardly anyone made a mistake, and reliability was way too high.  It was a tedious procession, and that was very disappointing.
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