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F1 News & Discussions => General F1 Discussion => Topic started by: John S on November 22, 2018, 03:55:41 PM

Title: F1 team Haas seeks to attack Force India via intellectual rights technicality
Post by: John S on November 22, 2018, 03:55:41 PM

Haas seem to be arguing that using cars built for previous owners breaches the no third party use rule.

Haas has not felt the love from F1 'powers that be' over no income or prize money for 2 years. They signed up to this style of entry so should they now complain? 

Sour grapes or smart operators???? 

https://www.crash.net/f1/news/910915/1/haas-f1-lodges-protest-against-force-india

Title: Re: F1 team Haas seeks to attack Force India via intellectual rights technicality
Post by: Jericoke on November 23, 2018, 02:48:48 PM

Haas isn't wrong on the details here.  We all know that F1 is about pushing the details to the limits.

We also know that Haas hasn't been treated fairly by other F1 teams, so I can't blame them for 'paying it forward'.

However, mostly this is another example of how absurdly F1 is run, the rules to prevent 'fly by night' operations prevent any meaningful investment in the sport.  Haas would suffer considerably if F1 couldn't field enough cars to race, yet the only way for that to happen is to bend the rules.

Title: Re: F1 team Haas seeks to attack Force India via intellectual rights technicality
Post by: cosworth151 on November 23, 2018, 03:28:24 PM

I can't blame Haas for playing the rule book, either. The stewards have done their be sure that Haas doesn't finish ahead of Renault in the standings.

Title: Re: F1 team Haas seeks to attack Force India via intellectual rights technicality
Post by: Alianora La Canta on November 29, 2018, 09:46:24 PM

This appeal was never going to work directly, because the rule only bans two teams from using the same IP simultaneously. It says nothing about the use of such IP serially...

What this is doing (and has done) is demonstrate that Force India's claim to Column 1 money rests on an exception arrangement. Haas is trying to get itself the same exception arrangement, which would be worth $60 m to it.