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Title: Williams reveal new car
Post by: Dare on February 17, 2018, 01:32:28 AM
I like it

http://www.skysports.com/f1/news/12433/11200056/williams-reveal-significantly-different-2018-f1-car
Title: Re: liams reveal new car
Post by: cosworth151 on February 17, 2018, 05:59:03 AM
I like it, too. I see it still has a bit of a shark fin.
Title: Re: liams reveal new car
Post by: Irisado on February 17, 2018, 11:25:36 AM
It looks very ugly to me.  I dislike the recent trend of adding fins and other bits and pieces to engine covers.  The FIA banned such additions the last time that it got out of hand.  I think that they need to do so again.
Title: Re: Williams reveal new car
Post by: Scott on February 19, 2018, 02:14:50 PM
I think most of the reveal is about the livery, since the car that shows up on the grid tends to be quite different with regard to fins and flicks.

I've always liked the Martini livery more than anything Williams has done in the past decade.
Title: Re: Williams reveal new car
Post by: guest3164 on March 11, 2018, 12:15:35 PM
Would I be biased in saying it is my favourite car on the grid?
Title: Re: Williams reveal new car
Post by: Scott on March 11, 2018, 03:42:44 PM
Would I be biased in saying it is my favourite car on the grid?

Probably  :crazy: :crazy:
Title: Re: Williams reveal new car
Post by: guest3164 on March 11, 2018, 03:56:30 PM
Would I be biased in saying it is my favourite car on the grid?

Probably  :crazy: :crazy:

Ah well :good:
Title: Re: Williams reveal new car
Post by: guest3164 on March 14, 2018, 01:54:18 PM
Lowe has come out today pretty much saying the car has fairly big issues with stability in the corners.  Not good at all.
Title: Re: Williams reveal new car
Post by: Scott on March 14, 2018, 04:51:20 PM
Yeah, he's not the guy you want to have complaining about the car.  ::)
Title: Re: Williams reveal new car
Post by: guest3164 on March 14, 2018, 07:59:07 PM
I might change my name to RedBullfan for 2018 at this rate  :o
Title: Re: Williams reveal new car
Post by: Calman on March 15, 2018, 11:38:53 PM
I've always had a soft spot for Williams (Mansell/Hill/Coulthard era until present), but I fear they may have another tough season ahead of them and may fall mid grid or worse on most race weekends.

The question is, will Stroll attempt to cement the No.1 Driver status, or will Sirotkin dominate proceedings, once he has a few race outings under his belt?

All the best,
Cal :)
Title: Re: Williams reveal new car
Post by: John S on March 16, 2018, 09:53:11 AM
I've always had a soft spot for Williams (Mansell/Hill/Coulthard era until present), but I fear they may have another tough season ahead of them and may fall mid grid or worse on most race weekends.

So basicly just like last year, the year before that and the one before that then.  :DD
Title: Re: Williams reveal new car
Post by: guest3164 on March 17, 2018, 02:10:37 PM
So long as Sirotkin is in the seat and politics don't take over, I see him beating Stroll pretty comfortably very early on in the season.  I am just not sure (sadly as a fan of the team) that Stroll will progress enough this season.
Title: Re: Williams reveal new car
Post by: Calman on March 18, 2018, 08:23:17 PM
So long as Sirotkin is in the seat and politics don't take over, I see him beating Stroll pretty comfortably very early on in the season.  I am just not sure (sadly as a fan of the team) that Stroll will progress enough this season.

I totally agree! ... I may have mentioned elsewhere (if not on this forum?) ... that I can quickly see Sirotkin becoming the No.1 driver at Williams.  Stroll may improve to some degree, but he doesn't have that typical F1 killer instinct and Sirotkin may outperform him on a regular basis in the season ahead.

All the best,
Cal :)
Title: Re: Williams reveal new car
Post by: John S on March 19, 2018, 12:18:59 PM
I'm not so sure Sirotkin will get the better of Stroll. Lance was put in F1 by his Father too early sure, however he did show flashes of top driving last season. This season he will be better prepared both in his mind and physically, I'm putting my money on Stroll outscoring Sergei this term.



Title: Re: Williams reveal new car
Post by: Scott on March 19, 2018, 04:00:04 PM
In almost any sport that matters (Hockey, Skiing and Curling), us Canadians tend to beat the Russians, so why not F1  :crazy: :crazy:
Title: Re: Williams reveal new car
Post by: guest3164 on March 19, 2018, 06:20:57 PM
I am by no means a Stroll basher (sounds more polite than a Lance basher) and thought he has a decent rookie season.  I just get this kind of 'Rosberg' vibe from Sirotkin.  But I am notoriously rubbish when it comes to predicting how Williams will do. 
Title: Re: Williams reveal new car
Post by: Calman on March 19, 2018, 07:58:40 PM
Hmm, yes "Lance Basher" sounds like a Medical malpractice case to me! lol

Seriously though, it's boils down to "Have Williams got it right or disastrously wrong in 2018?".   You can tell the Stroll fans when you hear comments on how little he was behind the experienced Massa, but on the flip side, Massa was standing on the retirement line, so Stroll "should" be significantly faster as the "talented rookie" ... regardless of the current performance of the car, agree?

I feel that Sirotkin may have a shaky start to the season, but over a season, I expect him to do better than Stroll in his first season - and as I have mentioned before, would not be surprised if Sergey become the No.1 driver at Williams.

All the best,
Cal :)
Title: Re: Williams reveal new car
Post by: guest3164 on March 26, 2018, 04:49:12 PM
Not sounding good at all from this article:

https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/135046/williams-urviving-not-racing--stroll (https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/135046/williams-urviving-not-racing--stroll)
Title: Re: Williams reveal new car
Post by: Alianora La Canta on March 26, 2018, 10:42:05 PM
I was expecting Williams' start to be shaky.

I was not expecting it to stand or fall on a hamburger wrapper...
Title: Re: Williams reveal new car
Post by: Calman on March 26, 2018, 10:47:57 PM
Worrying times for Williams!

I hope Stroll doesn't become outspoken like Villeneuve? ... as the fragile balance between Lance & Sergey as the two rookies in the race seats could leave Williams wondering "WHAT DID WE DO???" ... mind you, Kubica is ready, should Williams realize that their season is falling apart by the summer break!?!?

All the best,
Cal :)
Title: Re: Williams reveal new car
Post by: Scott on March 27, 2018, 06:38:34 AM
I hope Stroll doesn't become outspoken like Villeneuve?

But of course Stroll is financially invested in Williams, so he may have that right to criticise the management of his Dad's cash.  JV was just arrogant and a whiner.
Title: Re: Williams reveal new car
Post by: guest3164 on March 27, 2018, 07:47:36 AM
It is tricky regarding how far Stroll can push.  Of course, in one sense he is a customer, buying a service from Williams, but if I remember it correctly, Williams hold the cards regarding his contract so maybe he cannot push too far as there are not an abundance of teams now that need a still unproven driver, even with his vast cash supply. 

Still, the weekend was a disaster and it now seems likely that the races to come are going to be equally as painful.  The sandwich bag incident for Sirotkin, what are the odds of that?
Title: Re: Williams reveal new car
Post by: John S on March 27, 2018, 12:43:57 PM
The sandwich bag incident for Sirotkin, what are the odds of that?

About the same as 2 Haas cars having badly fitted wheels I reckon.  ;)
Title: Re: Williams reveal new car
Post by: guest3164 on March 27, 2018, 01:50:49 PM
About the same as 2 Haas cars having badly fitted wheels I reckon.  ;)

I have my tin foil ready to create a fetching headpiece.   :crazy:
Title: Re: Williams reveal new car
Post by: Alianora La Canta on March 27, 2018, 07:28:29 PM
About the same as 2 Haas cars having badly fitted wheels I reckon.  ;)

I have my tin foil ready to create a fetching headpiece.   :crazy:

Tin foil would make a better sandwich wrapping...
Title: Re: Williams reveal new car
Post by: guest3164 on March 27, 2018, 08:00:47 PM
I live by two simple rules:

1- Tin foil for headwear
2- Clingfilm for sarnies

 :D
Title: Re: Williams reveal new car
Post by: John S on March 27, 2018, 10:43:07 PM
I live by two simple rules:

1- Tin foil for headwear
2- Clingfilm for sarnies

 :D

And...
 3 - Cardboard inside your shoes when there's a hole.  ;)

Title: Re: Williams reveal new car
Post by: guest3164 on March 27, 2018, 10:44:27 PM

And...
 3 - Cardboard inside your shoes when there's a hole.  ;)

Now that has blown my mind  :o
Title: Re: Williams reveal new car
Post by: John S on March 27, 2018, 10:57:57 PM

And...
 3 - Cardboard inside your shoes when there's a hole.  ;)

Now that has blown my mind  :o

Sorry Luke I mixed up your list with my own.  :fool:
 
When you've walked Silverstone, Donnington and Snetterton perimeters trying to find the best place to view motor racing from you'll probably add 3 to your list.  :D
Title: Re: Williams reveal new car
Post by: guest3164 on March 28, 2018, 09:44:49 AM

Sorry Luke I mixed up your list with my own.  :fool:
 
When you've walked Silverstone, Donnington and Snetterton perimeters trying to find the best place to view motor racing from you'll probably add 3 to your list.  :D

Now, I actually wish I had walked around those tracks looking for a good view.  Silverstone I was able to stroll straight on into with my ticket and the only time I've done Donington was for the Download Festival.  Still, I did make sure I took a pilgrimage to some of the famous parts of the track whilst others were busy with random (and often bad) bands.
Title: Re: Williams reveal new car
Post by: Alianora La Canta on March 28, 2018, 11:26:31 PM
I live by two simple rules:

1- Tin foil for headwear
2- Clingfilm for sarnies

 :D

In this case, "better" means "less likely to fly off the sandwich and into anyone's radiator" ;)
Title: Re: Williams reveal new car
Post by: guest3164 on March 29, 2018, 07:58:28 AM

In this case, "better" means "less likely to fly off the sandwich and into anyone's radiator" ;)


I guess then we would not have the curious problem of a melted bag!
 :DD
Title: Re: Williams reveal new car
Post by: guest3164 on May 11, 2018, 07:40:00 AM
Car designer Ed Wood has left the team due to 'Personal Reasons'.  Hope everything is okay with him but I am not surprised this has happened, more surprised it didn't happen earlier to be honest given the wholesale changes that have taken place at Williams in recent seasons.
Title: Re: Williams reveal new car
Post by: Calman on May 11, 2018, 05:08:13 PM
Do we now miss the Patrick Head & Pat Symonds days at Grove???

All the best,
Cal :)
Title: Re: Williams reveal new car
Post by: guest3164 on May 11, 2018, 08:50:12 PM
I'd be happier with the podiums of a couple of years ago under Symonds, but I long for the Championships of the Head years. 
Title: Re: Williams reveal new car
Post by: Robem64 on May 14, 2018, 04:36:00 PM
Add this to the long list of things wrong!
https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/sirotkin-had-very-painful-seat-problem-in-spanish-gp-1037389/?s=1 (https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/sirotkin-had-very-painful-seat-problem-in-spanish-gp-1037389/?s=1)

As I was at the Spanish GP it was painful to see how impossible the Williams car is to drive - I think both drivers did well to get the cars to the end....slipping and sliding all over the place right from the off. didn't seem to matter which tyres or what state the tyres were in either. Truly awful to handle.
Title: Re: Williams reveal new car
Post by: cosworth151 on May 14, 2018, 07:46:39 PM
Is Sergey trying to say that this season's Williams is a pain in the ***?
Title: Re: Williams reveal new car
Post by: Alianora La Canta on May 14, 2018, 09:48:56 PM
If so, he is saying it quite successfully :)
Title: Re: Williams reveal new car
Post by: guest3164 on May 30, 2018, 06:10:35 PM
Dirk de Beer has stepped down as Head of Aerodynamics at Williams, I guess he has fallen on his sword. 

https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/136402/williams-aero-head-steps-down-from-role (https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/136402/williams-aero-head-steps-down-from-role)
Title: Re: Williams reveal new car
Post by: Calman on May 30, 2018, 06:15:57 PM
Dirk de Beer has stepped down as Head of Aerodynamics at Williams, I guess he has fallen on his sword. 

https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/136402/williams-aero-head-steps-down-from-role (https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/136402/williams-aero-head-steps-down-from-role)

Yup! ... the inevitable outcome for any F1 team who used to be "up there" and are now "way down there".

All the best,
Cal :)
Title: Re: Williams reveal new car
Post by: Jericoke on May 30, 2018, 08:29:46 PM
Dirk de Beer has stepped down as Head of Aerodynamics at Williams, I guess he has fallen on his sword. 

https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/136402/williams-aero-head-steps-down-from-role (https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/136402/williams-aero-head-steps-down-from-role)

Yup! ... the inevitable outcome for any F1 team who used to be "up there" and are now "way down there".

All the best,
Cal :)

They mention that they may have a bug in their simulator software.

There's another thread that discusses using common parts to save money in F1.  If each team is creating their own simulation software, that's got to be tremendously expensive, and would probably be a huge advantage to a team that can hire an extra developer to get rid of the bugs that Williams may have.
Title: Re: Williams reveal new car
Post by: Calman on May 31, 2018, 01:48:56 AM
... so, sounds like they have 99 bugs and have uncovered 1 of them!

Desperate days at Williams.  Will they even reach the grid in the next few years???

All the best,
Cal :)
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