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Title: corona virus and F1
Post by: Dare on February 27, 2020, 09:30:07 PM
Could be a shorter season that we hoped for


https://www.planetf1.com/news/f1-corona virus/
Title: Re: corona virus and F1
Post by: Jericoke on February 28, 2020, 02:02:42 PM
https://www.planetf1.com/news/f1-coronavirus/ (https://www.planetf1.com/news/f1-coronavirus/)

China - Cancelled ('postponed')
Australia - prepared to cancel
Vietnam - prepared to cancel

Teams brought fewer personnel to testing than normal.  Particularly Ferrari.  (I've seen the news, wouldn't the engineers be SAFER in Spain than Italy?)

Is there a minimum number of races to have an F1 season?
Title: Re: corona virus and F1
Post by: John S on February 29, 2020, 03:54:33 PM
https://www.planetf1.com/news/f1-coronavirus/ (https://www.planetf1.com/news/f1-coronavirus/)


Teams brought fewer personnel to testing than normal.  Particularly Ferrari.  (I've seen the news, wouldn't the engineers be SAFER in Spain than Italy?)


Think you'll find it was Ferrari being sensitive and showing they're trying to restrict infection travelling to Barcelona. There's a big unexplained pocket of Corvid-19 in Northern Italy.
Now where is Ferrari based - yup Northern Italy.

Title: Re: corona virus and F1
Post by: lkjohnson1950 on February 29, 2020, 06:48:15 PM
The Aussies are considering closing their borders, There is an outbreak in Viet Nam that has them thinking of closing their borders. If it worsens we could lose half the season.
Title: Re: corona virus and F1
Post by: Scott on March 01, 2020, 01:13:49 PM
The Swiss government has banned any gathering of more than 1000 people.  Hockey is now played to empty arenas and televised.  All upcoming trade shows have been cancelled, including Auto Salon Geneva.  Concerts and festivals.  They have closed University of Bern and my son is telling me the rumours are that his University in Zurich will likely be closed (he has one class with 600 students in it).  The company where I work has 3000 employees on one campus.  I expect there to be fairly drastic people management coming soon, for instance closing the employee restaurant.

Pretty drastic measures. 

I personally think the time has passed to preventing the spread.  Now the focus needs to be on treatment and a vaccine.
Title: Re: corona virus and F1
Post by: Dare on March 03, 2020, 05:32:24 PM
Seems like F1 is more concerned with having the races than
stopping the spread of the virus.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/exclusive-motor-racing-f1-cannot-170023164.html
Title: Re: corona virus and F1
Post by: lkjohnson1950 on March 03, 2020, 07:31:42 PM
Ferrari cancelled an 18 inch tire test due to Corona virus. World Superbike and Moto GP cancelled their Qatar races due to Qatar's travel restrictions on Italy.

https://www.racefans.net/2020/03/03/ferrari-cancels-thursdays-18-inch-tyre-test-due-to-coronavirus/ (https://www.racefans.net/2020/03/03/ferrari-cancels-thursdays-18-inch-tyre-test-due-to-coronavirus/)
Title: Re: corona virus and F1
Post by: Scott on March 03, 2020, 08:20:41 PM
Maybe, just maybe the season (and the rest of us) can be saved...

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/coronavirus-vaccine-moderna-human-testing/?fbclid=IwAR1zqRZAssSQqwxNmY_IeRjaTaj_HM-FFgr_Va1pleZj4ANtdK3HgZx3-mg#
Title: Re: corona virus and F1
Post by: Jericoke on March 03, 2020, 08:21:57 PM
Seems like F1 is more concerned with having the races than
stopping the spread of the virus.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/exclusive-motor-racing-f1-cannot-170023164.html

F1 is a multibillion dollar sport.  That money doesn't evaporate into the atmosphere, it pays engineers, cooks, track workers, souvenir stand operators etc.  Cancelling F1 does a lot of economic damage.

Now, obviously this has to be balanced with the damage to life that F1 could cause by being a vector to spread disease.  We don't NEED F1 to survive as a civilization, but we do need an economy to maintain the civilization we have.  F1 certainly creates a larger footprint on the world economy than most single sporting events.

What I AM curious about, let's say that Ferrari and Alpha Tauri aren't allowed to race.  Certainly if Ferrari pays to ship equipment to no race, it's no big deal.  What about Williams or Haas?  If they're paying to ship to races that don't happen, what's going to happen to them as a business?  Would the FIA consider operating non-championship races?  Would teams go for it?

I'm further curious what an F1 race weekend looks like with 'minimal personnel'.  The FIA might be able to find some genuine cost savings once we see what Ferrari deems 'essential' for operating a race weekend.
Title: Re: corona virus and F1
Post by: lkjohnson1950 on March 03, 2020, 08:52:29 PM
NASCAR has a rule this year limiting the number of people teams can bring to a race.
Title: Re: corona virus and F1
Post by: lkjohnson1950 on March 06, 2020, 07:33:20 PM
The Rome ePrix has been cancelled due to Coronavirus. It's the second cancellation for the series and the first major cancellation in Europe.

https://www.racefans.net/2020/03/06/coronavirus-causes-first-major-race-cancellation-in-europe-as-formula-e-scraps-rome-eprix/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+f1fanatic+%28RaceFans+-+Independent+Motorsport+Coverage%29 (https://www.racefans.net/2020/03/06/coronavirus-causes-first-major-race-cancellation-in-europe-as-formula-e-scraps-rome-eprix/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+f1fanatic+%28RaceFans+-+Independent+Motorsport+Coverage%29)
Title: Re: corona virus and F1
Post by: lkjohnson1950 on March 06, 2020, 07:36:01 PM
In addition, Bahrain organizers are limiting ticket sales.

https://www.racefans.net/2020/03/05/bahrain-gp-organisers-restricting-ticket-sales-in-response-to-coronavirus/ (https://www.racefans.net/2020/03/05/bahrain-gp-organisers-restricting-ticket-sales-in-response-to-coronavirus/)
Title: Re: corona virus and F1
Post by: lkjohnson1950 on March 06, 2020, 07:52:34 PM
It's only very indirectly related to F1, but Coronavirus is leveling the airline industry. Cathay Pacific is one of the hardest hit, but losses of 100 billion or more are predicted worldwide. It has a knock-on effect as airlines are delaying or cancelling orders for new airplanes, hurting Airbus and already compromised Boeing.

https://airlinerwatch.com/cathay-pacific-group-grounds-half-of-its-fleet-due-to-lack-of-demand/ (https://airlinerwatch.com/cathay-pacific-group-grounds-half-of-its-fleet-due-to-lack-of-demand/)
Title: Re: corona virus and F1
Post by: cosworth151 on March 06, 2020, 09:49:29 PM
One of the biggest annual sports events here in Ohio has been hit by fear of the outbreak. The Arnold Sports Festival (as in Arnold Schwarzenegger) has been forced to cancel the Sports Expo part. The events will go on but without spectators. Only the parents of competitors under 17 will be admitted. This is by order of the State of Ohio. This will be a major hit to businesses in Columbus.

For more info, click on the State Order tab on their site:

https://www.arnoldsportsfestival.com/
Title: Re: corona virus and F1
Post by: lkjohnson1950 on March 06, 2020, 11:57:04 PM
SXSW, a major Movie, Music and art Festival in Texas has been cancelled.

https://www.sxsw.com/2020-event-update/ (https://www.sxsw.com/2020-event-update/)
Title: Re: corona virus and F1
Post by: Dare on March 07, 2020, 12:17:34 AM
A friend told me the release of the  new James Bond
movie has been delayed till later this year
Title: Re: corona virus and F1
Post by: Scott on March 07, 2020, 04:08:33 PM
A friend told me the release of the  new James Bond
movie has been delayed till later this year

Yeah, why?  Pushed from April to November.  I don’t really understand that one.  If anything they should release it as a pay per view so people self-quarantining can at least enjoy it at home.

And what’s with the run on toilet paper?  People have gone mad.  Saw an ad for a roll of toilet paper in Australia for $3999, but you get a free diamond ring.
Title: Re: corona virus and F1
Post by: cosworth151 on March 07, 2020, 04:21:42 PM
I couldn't understand why they were releasing it in April. They always release Bond movies in November. I remember this because they usually come out the week of my birthday.  ;)

Seriously, they had to cancel the pre-release publicity tours in China, Japan & South Korea. The last Bond flick, Spectre, made 78% of its revenue in the international market.
Title: Re: corona virus and F1
Post by: Monty on March 09, 2020, 09:22:27 AM
Quote
I couldn't understand why they were releasing it in April. They always release Bond movies in November. I remember this because they usually come out the week of my birthday. 

Seriously, they had to cancel the pre-release publicity tours in China, Japan & South Korea. The last Bond flick, Spectre, made 78% of its revenue in the international market.

I read that there are so many film releases planned, a date that doesn't clash with some other major film is as rare as a pack of toilet tissues on a UK supermarket shelf. For the Bond film, China was considered possibly the most important market so delaying the release was a worthwhile risk.
Title: Re: corona virus and F1
Post by: lkjohnson1950 on March 09, 2020, 09:13:14 PM
Insider's view of OZ and the coronavirus.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5tTlWtI_eXM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5tTlWtI_eXM)
Title: Re: corona virus and F1
Post by: Dare on March 09, 2020, 10:25:02 PM
We just had our first related case here.
Title: Re: corona virus and F1
Post by: lkjohnson1950 on March 10, 2020, 02:09:36 AM
Arizona has 6 cases, including 1 near me. Health Director expects it will spread like flu. She's GOP so she's playing down the seriousness of it.
Title: Re: corona virus and F1
Post by: Dare on March 10, 2020, 02:37:18 AM
Arizona has 6 cases, including 1 near me. Health Director expects it will spread like flu. She's GOP so she's playing down the seriousness of it.


Always politics have to be throw in. Wouldn't it be
a nice world if people chose a candidate for who he or she
is and not what party their representing
Title: Re: corona virus and F1
Post by: cosworth151 on March 11, 2020, 03:11:29 PM
SRO just announced that the GT World Challenge race scheduled for Monza next month is cancelled due to the Coronavirus outbreak. Sadly, I doubt it will be the last cancellation.

https://www.gt-world-challenge-europe.com/news/1727/statement-from-sro-motorsports-group-
Title: Re: corona virus and F1
Post by: Alianora La Canta on March 12, 2020, 12:01:30 AM
I've just been sent home from my new job because I've started coughing, have fever and started getting confused. Two of my colleagues are, I suspect, going to be told not to come back to work tomorrow for the same reason. My part of Derbyshire has zero confirmed cases of coronavirus, possibly because I've just taken the online triage test for it and got told I both should, and should not, visit my GP to find out if I have it. (I'm going to call some other people in the morning).

El Salvador's closed its borders to all foreigners today, Italy's banned non-essential staff from going into work and Vietnam's revoked visa waivers for anyone coming from the UK or several other nations with known significant coronavirus outbreaks. This pandemic is going to be worse than I thought, and I think it will end with it becoming endemic (at that point, the risk of travel will get recalculated and seasons will get going again).

For now, I think F1 will have race 1 in Melbourne and race 2 in Europe. And I'm not even sure it will be Spain or the Netherlands...
Title: Re: corona virus and F1
Post by: lkjohnson1950 on March 12, 2020, 01:36:13 AM
Get tested, and I hope you feel better soon.
Title: Re: corona virus and F1
Post by: Dare on March 12, 2020, 12:28:27 PM
https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/28887560/nba-suspends-season-further-notice-player-tests-positive-coronavirus
Title: Re: corona virus and F1
Post by: Scott on March 12, 2020, 12:52:08 PM
Mclaren’s out.

https://youtu.be/Nh3KisgXVWo
Title: Re: corona virus and F1
Post by: cosworth151 on March 12, 2020, 02:36:53 PM
The FIA-WEC just cancelled their 1000 mile race at Sebring for originally scheduled for next weekend. It was an undercard race for the 12 Hours of Sebring. The cancellation was in response to Trump's travel ban:

“This decision was not made lightly," said WEC CEO Gerard Neveu in a statement. "Our teams and officials place great value on racing at Sebring in front of its enthusiastic and knowledgeable fans. While this cancelation has been forced upon us because of the travel restrictions from Europe to USA, WEC remains committed at all times to the health and welfare of its teams, officials and race fans. Further, the quality of every aspect of a WEC race event is at the heart of everything that we do and will never be compromised.”

As of now, the rest of the scheduled events are still on.
Title: Re: corona virus and F1
Post by: Scott on March 12, 2020, 06:48:25 PM
Well, that’s that...

https://www.bbc.com/sport/formula1/51849163
Title: Re: corona virus and F1
Post by: Scott on March 12, 2020, 06:50:22 PM
We’ll all soon be self quarantined with nothing to watch.
Title: Re: corona virus and F1
Post by: John S on March 12, 2020, 07:05:49 PM
We'll just have to sit back and enjoy this instead.  ;)

https://youtu.be/QFKUtDQsk_4



Title: Re: corona virus and F1
Post by: cosworth151 on March 12, 2020, 07:50:47 PM
The rest of Sebring has been moved to November 11-14.
Title: Re: corona virus and F1
Post by: Dare on March 12, 2020, 08:18:01 PM
SEC men's basketball tournament cancelled.  Going to
be a sorry time for sports this spring.
Title: Re: corona virus and F1
Post by: cosworth151 on March 12, 2020, 08:36:25 PM
IndyCar & SRO GT4/TCR races at St. Petersburg Florida will run this weekend on a condensed schedule with empty stands. Final schedule TBA:

http://www.gpstpete.com/news/245-joint-statement-from-indycar-and-green-savoree-racing-promotions
Title: Re: corona virus and F1
Post by: sprite on March 12, 2020, 11:17:42 PM
Well, it looks like the race is off:

https://www.theage.com.au/national/coronavirus-updates-live-australian-grand-prix-to-be-called-off-as-virus-spreads-20200313-p549ml.html
Title: Re: corona virus and F1
Post by: cosworth151 on March 14, 2020, 03:51:08 PM
One of my favorite comic strips, Harley, summed it up pretty well. Sorry for posting a link instead of the actual picture. Every time I try to post an attachment it goes off to cyber Never Never Land.

https://www.gocomics.com/harley/2020/03/11
Title: Re: corona virus and F1
Post by: Alianora La Canta on March 14, 2020, 05:37:09 PM
Get tested, and I hope you feel better soon.

Can't get a test - per NHS policy, only people requiring A&E, which requires passing the triage test (online or via medical triage) get tests in the UK. Even if I went to hospital, I'm well enough to look after myself (albeit I'd have to stay away from work even if this wasn't communicable, because I lose concentration quite a bit, have neckache and need extra sleep). So I'm opting not to risk weakening the immune system of those who would encounter me if I went that path. Instead I am staying home, avoiding everyone and being thankful I have an understanding employer.

By understanding, I mean this was the conversation we had when I called in sick the first time:

"Good morning. I'm [me] and unfortunately I need to call in sick today because I am self-isolating."

"Good move. Have you got Netflix?"

"No, but I have internet and books, also some food, so I'll be OK. By the way, [Colleague #1] and [Colleague #2] were also coughing and may call in later [I work the late afternoon/evening shift at the moment]."
 
"Thanks, we'll let everyone know. Let's all stay safe. Have a good day :)".

The conduct of F1 embarrasses me. WHO protocol is clear: anyone in close contact with a known coronavirus carrier has to self-isolate for 14 days (with medical supervision if needed). The paddock does not seem to be doing so. Despite the fact that the entire paddock was mingling with one another for a day before this test occurred. The near-half-day it took to do what was always going to be necessary once the positive test appeared (including a pretence that teams had any sort of say in a 3rd-party force majeure situation!) was dangerous and has severely harmed F1, Liberty and the FIA.

(I'm primarily inclined to blame the latter; it had a crisis cell specifically for this scenario, and it turns out they didn't know Emergency Handling 101. At least Liberty has the excuse that its specialism is money, not rules).
Title: Re: corona virus and F1
Post by: Willy on March 14, 2020, 08:50:14 PM
We all have to look at the bigger picture and realize that F1 draws a huge amount of people to watch it live and they are all in close enough contact to be in danger.
The teams do not operate or travel in a bubble and must use how many airports for their business?
I for one will not go anywhere near an airport now. They are just a Petrie dish full of bacteria, every one of them.
The FIA should look at how they can hold a vastly compacted season.
Title: Re: corona virus and F1
Post by: Alianora La Canta on March 15, 2020, 12:04:28 PM
I for one will not go anywhere near an airport now. They are just a Petrie dish full of bacteria, every one of them.
The FIA should look at how they can hold a vastly compacted season.

Avoid plane toilets especially. They've been found to harbour vast quantities of bacteria, including antibiotic-resistant strains, that will challenge anyone's immune system.
Title: Re: corona virus and F1
Post by: Andy B on March 16, 2020, 01:25:33 AM
From what I have read if after seven days you still have a temperature you then ring 111 (NHS) for advice and they will specify if you need testing.

As for aeroplane hygiene for quite a few years now after boarding we clean with sterile wipes the trays and anything plastic for where we will be for the duration of the flight. Never leave your seat without footwear especially to visit the toiletnand on returning to your seat wipe your hands with a clean wipe or gel. Since we started doing this we have not had any bugs while flying and have had more "That's a good idea" comment than negative ones.
Title: Re: corona virus and F1
Post by: Alianora La Canta on March 16, 2020, 10:40:05 AM
From what I have read if after seven days you still have a temperature you then ring 111 (NHS) for advice and they will specify if you need testing.

As for aeroplane hygiene for quite a few years now after boarding we clean with sterile wipes the trays and anything plastic for where we will be for the duration of the flight. Never leave your seat without footwear especially to visit the toiletnand on returning to your seat wipe your hands with a clean wipe or gel. Since we started doing this we have not had any bugs while flying and have had more "That's a good idea" comment than negative ones.

The advice has changed twice since I fell ill.

On Wednesday, it was "call 111 to report in if you have flu-like symptoms and we will triage for testing over the phone". I noticed the triage tool wasn't administered when I rang early on Thursday morning, and the online tool I was told to go to said to both visit, and avoid, my GP for assessment (specifically, they wanted me to get tested for COVID-19 at the GP unless I had COVID-19, in which case I was to stay away from all medical facilities unless absolutely necessary).

On Friday, it changed to what Andy B describes.

This morning, it's changed to "don't call NHS 111 unless you are worried". They don't seem to be pretending to triage that way any more. Thankfully, they've also stated that even people who don't take tests must stay away from public places (including work) for 7 days after symptoms begin. Which I may need, as it looks like my contact at the agency is not present (reasons not specified - I hope I haven't given him whatever I've got) and the replacement is putting pressure on me to go back to work even though I still have a fever.

Only after I put the phone down did I realise why. Having declared myself still sick with symptoms today, I have now been ill for 5 days. That means, COVID-19 or no COVID-19, I became eligible for sick pay today... (It would have been yesterday, but Sunday was a non-working day; it counts to the total but proof only possible today. Anyone self-isolating for COVID-19 can get it on day 1, without the usual "waiting period", but it's not clear how sticky employers will be about paying it).

There's usually an exemption for people paid less than £118 a week (so employers don't have to give sick leave to anyone working minimum wage for fewer than 13 hours a week), but that's been removed today, enabling them to get statutory sick pay also. Different rules apply in agriculture. But I work in an office, so it looks like the agency will have to pay it to me. Oh dear...
Title: Re: corona virus and F1
Post by: lkjohnson1950 on March 23, 2020, 08:42:10 PM
Official statement from Chase Carey on plans for 2020.

https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/article.statement-from-f1-ceo-chase-carey-when-the-situation-improves-well-be-ready.605dLuJYFSuJlOw8E2T4F5.html?utm_medium=email&utm_source=Ogilvy&utm_campaign=20200323_SeasonAnnouncement_OptOut&utm_term=20200323_SeasonAnnouncement_OptOutv2 (https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/article.statement-from-f1-ceo-chase-carey-when-the-situation-improves-well-be-ready.605dLuJYFSuJlOw8E2T4F5.html?utm_medium=email&utm_source=Ogilvy&utm_campaign=20200323_SeasonAnnouncement_OptOut&utm_term=20200323_SeasonAnnouncement_OptOutv2)
Title: Re: corona virus and F1
Post by: Andy B on March 27, 2020, 07:57:49 AM
Keep positive Ali and let us know what your result is?
Fingers crossed for you.
Title: Re: corona virus and F1
Post by: Alianora La Canta on March 27, 2020, 09:50:44 AM
Thank you. I cannot, and could not, get a test because they're in very short supply, but I've been symptom-free for quite a while now. I am now one of the 1% of the English population who have signed up to volunteer for the NHS in its hour of need. This is a really impressive result, considering a lot of the English population aren't eligible (under 18, self-isolating/ill, working in healthcare professionally, not in possession of a smartphone - the volunteer service is managed via app) and many others are very time-limited (anyone looking after a family or in full-time essential/at-home work of any kind). The first wave of signees will likely be ready to call at-risk people, transport groceries, medication (and for people with appropriate security checks, people) on Monday morning. Note that volunteers don't have to sign up for everything (and in rural areas, people without their own transport can only call others) and volunteers have no minimum commitment - they can simply ignore anything that clashes with their other obligations.

I think it's a really good idea. As long as we don't try to pile into the shops at the same time!
Title: Re: corona virus and F1
Post by: lkjohnson1950 on April 10, 2020, 08:59:57 PM
F1 is cancelling it's contracts with cameramen for 2020. Huge restructuring means old deals no longer apply. Might this actually be the beginning of the end of F1 2020?

https://www.racefans.net/2020/04/10/f1-cancels-2020-deals-with-camera-staff-but-that-doesnt-mean-the-season-is-off/ (https://www.racefans.net/2020/04/10/f1-cancels-2020-deals-with-camera-staff-but-that-doesnt-mean-the-season-is-off/)
Title: Re: corona virus and F1
Post by: Jericoke on April 13, 2020, 04:45:09 AM
F1 is cancelling it's contracts with cameramen for 2020. Huge restructuring means old deals no longer apply. Might this actually be the beginning of the end of F1 2020?

https://www.racefans.net/2020/04/10/f1-cancels-2020-deals-with-camera-staff-but-that-doesnt-mean-the-season-is-off/ (https://www.racefans.net/2020/04/10/f1-cancels-2020-deals-with-camera-staff-but-that-doesnt-mean-the-season-is-off/)

The sooner everyone takes this seriously, stays isolated, and lets the virus run itself out, the sooner we can get back to the 'real world'.

We certainly won't have a 2020 season in any way we had hoped, but I hold out hope that there will be F1 racing this year.
Title: Re: corona virus and F1
Post by: Dare on April 13, 2020, 05:12:06 AM
F1 is cancelling it's contracts with cameramen for 2020. Huge restructuring means old deals no longer apply. Might this actually be the beginning of the end of F1 2020?

https://www.racefans.net/2020/04/10/f1-cancels-2020-deals-with-camera-staff-but-that-doesnt-mean-the-season-is-off/ (https://www.racefans.net/2020/04/10/f1-cancels-2020-deals-with-camera-staff-but-that-doesnt-mean-the-season-is-off/)

The sooner everyone takes this seriously, stays isolated, and lets the virus run itself out, the sooner we can get back to the 'real world'.

We certainly won't have a 2020 season in any way we had hoped, but I hold out hope that there will be F1 racing this year.



Agreed,many people I know act like it's all a hoax.
Title: Re: corona virus and F1
Post by: John S on April 13, 2020, 03:35:11 PM
F1 is cancelling it's contracts with cameramen for 2020. Huge restructuring means old deals no longer apply. Might this actually be the beginning of the end of F1 2020?

https://www.racefans.net/2020/04/10/f1-cancels-2020-deals-with-camera-staff-but-that-doesnt-mean-the-season-is-off/ (https://www.racefans.net/2020/04/10/f1-cancels-2020-deals-with-camera-staff-but-that-doesnt-mean-the-season-is-off/)

The sooner everyone takes this seriously, stays isolated, and lets the virus run itself out, the sooner we can get back to the 'real world'.

We certainly won't have a 2020 season in any way we had hoped, but I hold out hope that there will be F1 racing this year.



Agreed,many people I know act like it's all a hoax.

Unfortunately I can see why 'Teens & Twenties might regard this as just another problem heaped on them by the 'Baby Boomers' - that's us!  Here in Britain they have seen house ownership get beyond most average means for under 35s, wages stagnate at below inflation adjusted levels for some years and the old age pensions and old age care bills rocket as we live longer and longer. All they can see is bigger tax bills and less goodies ahead.   

From their point of view they're having to stop enjoying life when there is negligible risk to their own lives (according to the medical stats). I think we need more focus on the sacrifice being made by the younger generation for us old'ns.

Hey perhaps they should award medals for the under 35s after this is over, sure give special ones to heroes - lifesavers etc - but a general one for the rest, like a campaign medal during other wars. 

     
Title: Re: corona virus and F1
Post by: Alianora La Canta on April 13, 2020, 09:18:23 PM
Agreed,many people I know act like it's all a hoax.

Still?!? I thought denying the existence of COVID-19 was impossible by this point! It's become the leading cause of death in some parts of the world...

I've heard of people mistaking it for flu or chicken pox, but to claim it's literally nothing is absurd.

Side note: I'm not sure how many of you are aware, but some of the drivers are trying to raise money for the WHO's COVID-19 response in an eSports series called "Race For The World". Various participants are streaming via Twitch with donation buttons under the relevant videos, and there's also a Tiltify donation page. As I type, they've managed to raise $35,671.30 (https://tiltify.com/+race-for-the-world/racefortheworld). Next race is 6 pm CEST (which I think is 5 pm BST, though the start times have been a bit relaxed) tomorrow. I know eSports are not everyone's cup of tea here, but it's still good to see that the drivers are trying to help.
Title: Re: corona virus and F1
Post by: John S on April 14, 2020, 10:08:34 AM
Agreed,many people I know act like it's all a hoax.

Still?!? I thought denying the existence of COVID-19 was impossible by this point! It's become the leading cause of death in some parts of the world...

I've heard of people mistaking it for flu or chicken pox, but to claim it's literally nothing is absurd.


What people believe is a tricky subject Alia, some still swear the earth is flat for instance.

My own view on this covid-19 virus is that history may judge the response differently than we expect.

This period may be remembered not for the huge number of deaths from the virus but rather for the wrecking of the world economy, with possible starvation and strife in many parts later down the line.

Lets hope the cure being prescribed by our leaders is not worse than the virus itself.   
Title: Re: corona virus and F1
Post by: Alianora La Canta on April 14, 2020, 05:21:42 PM
What people believe is a tricky subject Alia, some still swear the earth is flat for instance.

My own view on this covid-19 virus is that history may judge the response differently than we expect.

This period may be remembered not for the huge number of deaths from the virus but rather for the wrecking of the world economy, with possible starvation and strife in many parts later down the line.

Lets hope the cure being prescribed by our leaders is not worse than the virus itself.   

If the 1918 flu is anything to go by, history will remember the deaths, the counter-reactions and the recession - all of which I believe will be remembered however leaders now act, but all somewhat hazily.
Title: Re: corona virus and F1
Post by: Andy B on June 08, 2020, 11:11:46 PM
Today, here in NZ, is the 39th day in NZ without any community transmission, 18th day without any new C-19 cases, We have no current cases, only 22 people have died and we went to Level 1 at midnight which means we have no social distancing and life returns to near normal as our boarders remain closed.
Title: Re: corona virus and F1
Post by: Jericoke on June 09, 2020, 02:03:53 PM
Today, here in NZ, is the 39th day in NZ without any community transmission, 18th day without any new C-19 cases, We have no current cases, only 22 people have died and we went to Level 1 at midnight which means we have no social distancing and life returns to near normal as our boarders remain closed.

Advantages of living in the middle of nowhere!  :tease:
Title: Re: corona virus and F1
Post by: cosworth151 on June 09, 2020, 03:00:30 PM
Or maybe Hobbits have immunity.  ;)
Title: Re: corona virus and F1
Post by: Alianora La Canta on June 09, 2020, 06:02:06 PM
It's reached the point where I had to buy new volumes for the Corona Journal because otherwise I'd have run out today.

COVID-19, go away please!
Title: Re: corona virus and F1
Post by: cosworth151 on June 10, 2020, 03:15:41 PM
Take heart, Ali. Here's what we've been waiting for!   :yahoo:

https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/article.hamilton-back-at-the-wheel-at-silverstone-as-he-prepares-for-title-defence.208Ol5tzmhBLaORP9AhjWx.html

Well, at least it's something good.

We're thinking about having a party on July 1st to celebrate this awful year being half over.
Title: Re: corona virus and F1
Post by: Andy B on June 10, 2020, 11:03:20 PM
Today, here in NZ, is the 39th day in NZ without any community transmission, 18th day without any new C-19 cases, We have no current cases, only 22 people have died and we went to Level 1 at midnight which means we have no social distancing and life returns to near normal as our boarders remain closed.

Advantages of living in the middle of nowhere!  :tease:

It's actually Middle Earth not nowhere!  :D
Title: Re: corona virus and F1
Post by: lkjohnson1950 on June 11, 2020, 02:48:51 AM
 :DD :DD :DD
Title: Re: corona virus and F1
Post by: Alianora La Canta on June 11, 2020, 02:17:53 PM
Take heart, Ali. Here's what we've been waiting for!   :yahoo:

https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/article.hamilton-back-at-the-wheel-at-silverstone-as-he-prepares-for-title-defence.208Ol5tzmhBLaORP9AhjWx.html

Well, at least it's something good.

If he and Mercedes can keep safe, that's a good thing. I'm worried about the lack of social distancing I've been seeing at certain kart tracks where training has been happening, and I don't want anyone taken out of the 2020 title before it's even started by being forced to miss a round through quarantine...

Good news: I now have cloth face masks, which means I can train for the town half-marathon properly (which may still happen - decision on that likely not to be taken until August, reckon).

Bad news: All events prior to September in my hometown have been officially cancelled, as well as some during September. I'm due to go to two concerts in September, one of which has already been rescheduled due to COVID-19. Also, discipline has broken down so badly in the local supermarkets that I now have to do an 8-mile round trip if I want to safely purchase a foodstuff that isn't frozen or in the town organic food shop (e.g. bread or milk).

Sorry I'm struggling to stay bubbly and happy.
Title: Re: corona virus and F1
Post by: Dare on June 12, 2020, 11:47:33 PM
Today, here in NZ, is the 39th day in NZ without any community transmission, 18th day without any new C-19 cases, We have no current cases, only 22 people have died and we went to Level 1 at midnight which means we have no social distancing and life returns to near normal as our boarders remain closed.

Advantages of living in the middle of nowhere!  :tease:


I think it's more of a gov't enforcing it's guidelines unlike in the US
with our wonderful leader.
Title: Re: corona virus and F1
Post by: lkjohnson1950 on June 13, 2020, 01:36:55 AM
You guys gonna manage to Ditch Mitch this time around?
Title: Re: corona virus and F1
Post by: Alianora La Canta on June 13, 2020, 11:41:24 AM
Ditch Minn?

[moved the rest of this post to a thread where it makes sense.]
Title: Re: corona virus and F1
Post by: Dare on June 13, 2020, 04:33:16 PM
You guys gonna manage to Ditch Mitch this time around?

I wouldn't bet the farm on it. Paul could go too
Title: Re: corona virus and F1
Post by: Andy B on June 13, 2020, 10:35:45 PM
Today, here in NZ, is the 39th day in NZ without any community transmission, 18th day without any new C-19 cases, We have no current cases, only 22 people have died and we went to Level 1 at midnight which means we have no social distancing and life returns to near normal as our boarders remain closed.

Advantages of living in the middle of nowhere!  :tease:


I think it's more of a gov't enforcing it's guidelines unlike in the US
with our wonderful leader.

The Kiwi population have been pretty compliant so not much government enforcement here.
Title: Re: corona virus and F1
Post by: Alianora La Canta on June 18, 2020, 01:42:28 PM
Interesting method of avoiding the social-distancing problems of loading a race car into, then out of, a lorry: Charles Leclerc drove the SF1000 from the factory (https://www.ferrari.com/en-EN/formula1/articles/ferrari-f1-season-2020-restart) to the track where it is to be tested... (He apologised for waking a few people up in the process (https://twitter.com/Charles_Leclerc/status/1273481201706250240)).
Title: Re: corona virus and F1
Post by: John S on June 18, 2020, 01:56:40 PM
Good stunt from Ferrari and good post Alia.  :good:

Reminiscent of Red Bull use of show cars.

Can't really have been his proper race car - ride height would surely make normal roads pretty tricky to navigate safely? :DntKnw: 
Title: Re: corona virus and F1
Post by: cosworth151 on June 18, 2020, 02:25:43 PM
I'd think the folks around Maranello would be used to sounds like that.  ;)
Title: Re: corona virus and F1
Post by: Alianora La Canta on June 19, 2020, 08:17:28 PM
Can't really have been his proper race car - ride height would surely make normal roads pretty tricky to navigate safely? :DntKnw:

Ride height was raised to enable it to be driven on public roads. Which makes sense, as cars have to be wheeled through paddocks at the start and end of race weekends (to get into/out of the lorries), and they don't have to adhere to the tarmac smoothness regulations that track and pitlane do.
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