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F1 News & Discussions => General F1 Discussion => Topic started by: Calman on April 12, 2019, 02:25:02 AM
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Apart from the questionable 1,000th GP, what can we expect the Chinese GP to serve up?
1) A "trouble-free" drive and win for LeClerc?
2) Hamilton continuing with his winning ways?
3) Max upsetting a Merc/Ferrari win?
4) Renault finally grabbing some top points - even a podium?
5) With Alfa's upgrades, maybe even a surprise result for Kimi?
6) A BORING!!! 1,000th GP from start to finish?
Best Regards,
Cal :)
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Some faux excitement at the track to try to really build up the hype which leads to a lot of awkward looking drivers.
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Maybe they will finally fill the grandstands?
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Goodness Scott, that is the most unlikely thing I've ever heard!
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Maybe they will finally fill the grandstands?
It is such a shame because the circuit is really good for spectators. There are huge numbers of Grandstands all with excellent views but they don't open half of them because there is no demand (plus many of them are not covered and when it gets hot in Shanghai you definitely want to be under cover!). I guess there are lots of reasons that the circuit doesn't get full but from my visit I think the main issues are that although Shanghai is a rich and cosmopolitan city, the circuit is a long way outside of Shanghai plus locals can't afford the entry fee.
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I'm looking forward to Charles continuing to trounce Vettel, Merc getting on proper terms with Ferrari and Danny Ric scoring his first points of the season.
Oh and young Albon getting more points for Toro Rosso, he's such a nice lad, his mum and Franz Tost - his boss & new mentor - will be thrilled. :good:
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Interesting to hear that several teams (including Ferrari) are already edging towards penalties due to power unit changes.
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Maybe they will finally fill the grandstands?
They will. They'll fill them with giant signs for the 1,000 F1 points race.
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Interesting to hear that several teams (including Ferrari) are already edging towards penalties due to power unit changes.
Yes, I also read that somewhere yesterday Monty!!
I really wish they would remodel the penalty system. Personally, I would prefer to see teams pick up 75% of penalties, without penalising the drivers (finishing positions/points) themselves.
It would be a tragedy, if say, by the end of the season, LeClerc is within touching distance of beating Vettel and picks up a penalty, which sees him start from the back (or close to it) on the final race of the season.
Best Regards,
Cal :)
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I’m with you Cal, I think the teams should be docked WDC points for technical infractions, like engine or gearbox penalties, unsafe releases etc, while drivers should only be penalized for driver infractions.
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I'd prefer penalties to be offset for race DNFs.
If you fail to finish a race outside the points because of power unit problems I'm of the opinion that you've already taken a penalty so fitting new parts should have some leniency, even if you take over your allowance of some parts.
This doesn't mean a complete new power unit can be bolted in, just new elements taking you over your allowance to get you back in the game. Taking a complete new power unit and all the ancillary parts would still attract penalty unless everything is totalled in DNF scenario.
I'm not so concerned about Team v Driver treatment, they win together or lose together. Team orders mean that teams can slow drivers down anyway so IMHO it's hard to argue the two aren't dependant on each other.
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It's a tough one really.
Drivers will always be selfish BLEEP BLEEPS! .... but commentators, pundits and everyone with a microphone, always laments on "It's all about the Team", so all these weekends which pass on through, with this decision or that decision, we are constantly reminded when "team orders" are whispered, that the Team comes first.
So ... that's why I personally think that more penalties should land in the team's lap, not necessarily the driver, unless it's purely an incident triggered by a driver's poor judgement on the track.
Hey, as a side note, aren't we well overdue on witnessing a NUTTER RUNNING DOWN THE TRACK!!!! ... I mean, it's a big occasion this weekend, surely we need that extra dimension during the Chinese, 1,000th GP??
Best Regards,
Cal :)
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Did anyone pluck for Verstappen losing his temper and insulting the other drivers? He was a little unhappy at being overtaken on his final warm up lap meaning he ended up missing the cut off point. Inevitably it led to him throwing his toys out the pram.
Article found here:
https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/142732/verstappen-blasts-rivals-after-missing-final-q3-run (https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/142732/verstappen-blasts-rivals-after-missing-final-q3-run)
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Very interesting qualifying actually if you look at it. The top 10 especially are lined up team by team and you can see the gaps are 'generally' tight in the inter team battles (one exception, Verstappen/Gasly again). Is China the track that really shows the cars strengths over the drivers?
Bottas -> Hamilton- 0.023
Vettel -> Leclerc- 0.017
Verstappen -> Gasly- 0.841
Ricciardo -> Hulkenberg - 0.004 :o
The Haas drivers set no time and I do not really want to go too far down due to crashes/issues making the rest harder to look at.
Although you can see McLaren and Williams lined up after each other:
Sainz -> Norris - 0.444
Russell -> Kubica - 0.028
Kind of dull maybe, I just found it very interesting to see how close the inter team battles were this weekend leading to an almost Noah's Ark like qualifying of them going in 2 by 2 (yes, I went to a Church of England Primary School and obviously it left some impact :D )
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Did anyone pluck for Verstappen losing his temper and insulting the other drivers? He was a little unhappy at being overtaken on his final warm up lap meaning he ended up missing the cut off point. Inevitably it led to him throwing his toys out the pram.
Article found here:
https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/142732/verstappen-blasts-rivals-after-missing-final-q3-run (https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/142732/verstappen-blasts-rivals-after-missing-final-q3-run)
An unwritten rule isn’t a rule.
I would venture to say that it almost appeared like he was holding the other three up - perhaps in an attempt to make them miss the cutoff.
Max, Max, Max...just shut up and drive the car!
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I totally agree Scott. It's qualifying, they are all out to create the best situation for themselves. Blame your team for putting you out then, not the other drivers.
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I’m with you Cal, I think the teams should be docked WDC points for technical infractions, like engine or gearbox penalties, unsafe releases etc, while drivers should only be penalized for driver infractions.
Whilst this would seem the fair option, I think it would make a farce of the engine rules. Teams could favour winning the drivers championship ahead of the constructors. Once one team does, it they will all do it and use a new engine in each race.
On the other hand, Williams might be constructor champions again!
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Very interesting qualifying actually if you look at it. The top 10 especially are lined up team by team and you can see the gaps are 'generally' tight in the inter team battles (one exception, Verstappen/Gasly again). Is China the track that really shows the cars strengths over the drivers?
Bottas -> Hamilton- 0.023
Vettel -> Leclerc- 0.017
Verstappen -> Gasly- 0.841
Ricciardo -> Hulkenberg - 0.004 :o
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Kind of dull maybe, I just found it very interesting to see how close the inter team battles were this weekend leading to an almost Noah's Ark like qualifying of them going in 2 by 2 (yes, I went to a Church of England Primary School and obviously it left some impact :D )
Not dull at all. Maybe just a fluke, but this looks like it could be a storming race. Gasly sticks out like a sore thumb. I don't give him much longer at Red Bull. Kvyat to return???
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I'm not a Max supporter by any means but I reckon Vettel is taking all the others down a slippery slope barging through in last run in Q3. >:(
Max & others are bound to use this a model to screw with others leading up to quali laps in following races, an unwritten rule may become a huge area of controversy for the Stewards and could lead to more rules getting in the way of the action. ::)
Can't see the greats of old resting easy with such ungentlemanly conduct at official 1000th F1 race. :-[
I'm talking Fangio, Clark, JYS, Moss et al, rather than the Lauda's, Senna's or Schumi's.
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Renault and Ferrari realized they were running it pretty tight, while Max was taking his sweet time setting up. If they hadn’t passed him, I really think they would have missed the cut off. As it was, the second Renault barely made it before the red lights. I put it all on Max or Red Bull for timing it so there would be nothing left for the drivers behind and Max getting so flustered that he didn’t pay attention to his pit wall when they told him to go. Even Haas were complaining that Verstappen was holding everyone back and his drivers ended up missing the cut as well.
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I may not be able to make it to the Chat Room for the race tonight. I'll be back for Azerbaijan. (Yes, I did use Spell Check on that.)
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Sorry Luke, did you say something there???
I fell asleep due to the same intensity of interest delivered from a House of Commons Special!! :DD :DD :DD
Seriously though, you are correct on so many levels. People who watch F1 for the overall entertainment, will be really enjoying what's unfolding at the front end of the grid. Mercedes and Ferrari in close battle, as well as their respective drivers I battle with each other, with no hint as yet to who will become the (dare I say it) ... #1 Driver in those teams.
Encouraging Qualy for Renault and a slight redeeming performance for Gasly. However, Stroll is no longer at Williams and to some degree, has nowhere to hide, as Perez delivers some decent laps in the mid field battle.
Oh yes, I smiled when Rosberg commented on Vettel's "Tash" (Sky Sports coverage). I like Rosberg a lot more after his co-presenting role with Simon. Also, apart from the fact that Seb does NOT look good with a mustache, it's been bugging me as to who he reminds me off ... then I found this >>>
(https://movie-dude.co.uk/Brian%20Murphy%20%20Man%20About%20the%20House%20(1974).jpg)
Sure I've missed other key happenings from qualy, but those are the things that spring to mind, other than Mad Max's moaning.
Enjoy the *cough* 1000th race tomorrow.
Best Regards,
Cal :)