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Everything Else => Off Topic => Topic started by: Ian on November 07, 2012, 06:49:07 PM
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I see Mr Obama has been re-elected.
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Yes, and I'm proud to say that it was my home state of Ohio that put him over the line, at about 23:15 EST last night. It was far earlier in the evening than any of us expected.
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I don't want to start too big a non-F1 fight here...
While Obama aligns with my view of the world better than Romney does... Obama never came to visit. Some neighbour!
At least Romney has a house in Canada (the one that he famously drove to with a dog on the roof of his car...), and we could count on him to at least consider us from time to time.
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Why not Jeri ? I don't mind starting a big non-F1 anti EU fight here(although Wiz might not like a political fight here.)
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Gotta be the right result for the US! :good:
Mitt seemed like a t*t.
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Gotta be the right result for the US! :good:
Mitt seemed like a t*t.
With a population of over 300 million you'd think we
could have had better candidates.
Hope his 2nd term accomplishes more than the first.
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Gotta be the right result for the US! :good:
Mitt seemed like a t*t.
With a population of over 300 million you'd think we
could have had better candidates.
Hope his 2nd term accomplishes more than the first.
That's half the problem... in this day and age, you wouldn't get the same men that have graced the Oval Office in the past.
FDR went to great lengths to hide is wheelchair. Kennedy hid his health issues. Abraham Lincoln suffered a nervous breakdown.
Truman sold hats in his last 'real job' before entering civil service.
Guys like Ike, Teddy, Grant and Washington would probably tarred as war criminals.
These days, the only people who become president are people who are 'squeaky clean', and yet filled with ambition. Of those people, how many are going to be a 'good' president?
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Gotta be the right result for the US! :good:
Mitt seemed like a t*t.
With a population of over 300 million you'd think we
could have had better candidates.
Hope his 2nd term accomplishes more than the first.
And you'd think with a population that size you'd get a choice from more than just two. :D
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The Republican Party is still suffering from Tea Party Syndrome. The far right votes heavily in the primaries, so the candidates have to pass ultra conservative litmus tests. The mass of mainstream voters are not that conservative and are not especially happy with that kind of candidate, so they go Democratic instead. Mitt tried to move toward the center, but couldn't get back far enough. I wonder sometimes if Eisenhower or even Goldwater could get the nomination today.
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I don't want to start too big a non-F1 fight here...
While Obama aligns with my view of the world better than Romney does... Obama never came to visit. Some neighbour!
At least Romney has a house in Canada (the one that he famously drove to with a dog on the roof of his car...), and we could count on him to at least consider us from time to time.
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When the President took office four years ago, he inherited the worst economy since the Great Depression plus two wars. He's has to fight the worst congress in history. The Republicans had more filibusters in two years than both parties did in the two decades of the fifties and sixties. All in all, he hasn't done too badly with what he had to work with.
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As I see it, there are two big problems with American politics. There is less and less middle ground (the left is leaning more left and the right is leaning more right). There is no room for compromise.
The second problem is actually only one man. His name is Grover Norquist. This man has come up with perhaps the most brilliant and apparently legal form of blackmail that exists. He has written something called the Taxpayer Protection Pledge and blackmailed (yes literally) successfully 95% of current Republican Congressmen among many others (Governors and even most of the Republican Presidential hopefuls from this past election). The pledge is to NEVER increase personal or corporate income taxes. If any elected Republican that he approaches to sign his little pledge refuse to do so, his very well funded 'non-profit' entity targets that candidate in the next election with massive funding and does whatever it takes to have them replaced. If you have candidates or representatives in the Republican party who are so terrified by this guy and his organization to vote their own beliefs, then there will never be any chance of compromise, especially in financially troubled times as these. This guy is a cancer to good government. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grover_Norquist
There was a great show on NPR (thankfully it will continue now with Obama) the other day about a grass roots group of Republicans and Democrats called 'Retake the Center', filled with moderate Republicans and Democrats who just want to move the country forward and do that with compromise. Something to hope for.
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another worry,who own's are debt
not so funny tv ad http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JlkLhVo3PbY
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Not very accurate, either. Empires such as Rome fell when they were taken over by a small group of elitists interested only in enriching themselves. That's exactly what far right groups like the one who produced the ad want. In Rome, they were known as the Publicans. Sounds eerily familiar.
Also, the largest part of our debt to China is from people going to WalMart and buying Chinese crap instead of going to a reputable merchant and buying American made goods.
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another worry,who own's are debt
not so funny tv ad
Not really. If the Chinese call in the debt, the US economy is easily strong enough for the govt to tell them to stuff it. Far more worrying is, like Canada seems poised to do, you let the Chinese buy up a ton of the country's infrastructure. Then, they would truly have control of the economy. All they would own off the US is a bunch of bad IOU's.
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Not very accurate, either. Empires such as Rome fell when they were taken over by a small group of elitists interested only in enriching themselves. That's exactly what far right groups like the one who produced the ad want. In Rome, they were known as the Publicans. Sounds eerily familiar.
Also, the largest part of our debt to China is from people going to WalMart and buying Chinese crap instead of going to a reputable merchant and buying American made goods.
Was it Lenin or Stalin who said he would happily sell the capitalist the rope to hang himself?
China seems to have taken that idea to heart far better than the Soviets ever managed.
One thing I never quite understood, is that WalMart is seen as some sort of lowclass, low brow store, and yet like half of the top 20 richest Americans are heirs to Sam Walton. Why are other superrich people admired, but not the Walmart folk?
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Sorry I don't remember the exact number, but the Chinese own low single digits of the debt. The biggest share is owned by the American people in the form of Savings Bonds, the next largest by Social Security. Just demonstrates that the Republicans are not afraid of the "Big Lie". Just like they made it seem like the debt was all Obama's fault when in fact most of it was run up by St Ronald Reagan and GW Bush.
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Was it Lenin or Stalin who said he would happily sell the capitalist the rope to hang himself?
Soviet premier Nikita Khrushchev said that the Soviet Union would bury us. His son Sergei is an American citizen.
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There is no left in US mainstream politics. There's centre right (the Democrats), and right wing (the Republicans). I'm not a fan of either, but at least the Democrats don't have as extreme a social and foreign policy agenda as the Republicans, so the result is the best that I could have hoped for.
Ian: I teach and research European politics, and the EU is horribly misrepresented by the right wing, the media, and by the ghastly Nigel Farrage.
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Irisado, I am not going to get into a political argument on the forum, so the most I am going to say is that in my opinion the EU and the ECHR should be kicked into touch.
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Irisado, I am not going to get into a political argument on the forum, so the most I am going to say is that in my opinion the EU and the UCHR should be kicked into touch.
Ian surely you mean ECHR (European convention on Human rights) and in particular the court ECtHR; established to hear cases of possible violation, by states, of the convention?
I believe 'uchr' is a moniker for a Unicode keyboard-layout resource used by Apple on their Mac machines. Whilst I know Apple have many detractors I'm not aware of any serious protest movement against Mac development tools. :D
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Hehe, well spotted John, thanks. :DD :DD
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Irisado, I am not going to get into a political argument on the forum, so the most I am going to say is that in my opinion the EU and the UCHR should be kicked into touch.
I believe 'uchr' is a moniker for a Unicode keyboard-layout resource used by Apple on their Mac machines. Whilst I know Apple have many detractors I'm not aware of any serious protest movement against Mac development tools. :D
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Well spotted John.. :good: :good:
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Irisado, I am not going to get into a political argument on the forum, so the most I am going to say is that in my opinion the EU and the ECHR should be kicked into touch.
I don't really know what you mean by kicked into touch in this context, but assuming that it's negative, I'll just say that I disagree, and leave it at that :).
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Wizzo we could have a new board called Battle it out with our best..
Ian - Football is the best game in the world
EU is the best thing ever happen to Europe
Cos - Austin track is the new home of F1 in USA
V6 turbo is the best engine ever sanctioned by FIA
Monty - Schumacher is the best
Other are invited to create their own arena of fight as well..
What do you think??
[P.S I hope Ian, Cos and Monty does not take it personally, I respect their opinions, and want them to be just the way they are..]
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BD, don't worry, I don't take anything personally on here because we are always pulling each others legs, mind you, Scott did get me on a good one once, I took the lot, hook, bait, line and sinker. :DD :DD :DD
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Fie on thee, knave! ;)
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Who me? Never... ;)
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Yeah you Scott, that was a good one, I flipped. :good: :good: :good: