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Title: Three 2021 Grands Prix will have Qualifying Races
Post by: cosworth151 on April 27, 2021, 02:03:34 PM
It's official. Three races this season will have qualifying races. The races have yet to be announced.

Here's how it will go. Friday will have FP1 and then a regular quali session. This will set the starting order for the quali race. Saturday will have FP2 followed by a 100 km quali race. Only soft compound tires may be used in this race. This race will be a points paying race for the podium. P1=3pts, P2=2pts and P3=1pt.

Park Ferme rules will apply throughout the entire weekend. If a team guesses wrong on the way in they'll be stuck with it all weekend.

I wonder if these rules were written by the same person who wrote the rules for Fizbin.

https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/article.everything-you-need-to-know-about-f1s-new-sprint-qualifying-format-including.1Lawf6r6Ab0y8ha0satSjx.html
Title: Re: Three 2021 Grands Prix will have Qualifying Races
Post by: Scott on April 27, 2021, 07:21:03 PM
So racing Saturday and Sunday.  Apart from the senseless part ferme rules, Iím happy if they give it a whirl.
Title: Re: Three 2021 Grands Prix will have Qualifying Races
Post by: rmassart on April 28, 2021, 06:11:27 AM
I am not sure I like the points being awarded. Why do they do that? They don't get points for normal qualifying.  It's not like they won't try to be first on the grid.  I am concerned because this season looks like it could be a tight one between Max and Lewis.  I wouldn't be happy to see it decided by the points in a one off sprint race.  We now have three races in which there are more points up for grabs than the others and that's wrong. I know they tried that with double points once, but that was terrible as well.
Title: Re: Three 2021 Grands Prix will have Qualifying Races
Post by: John S on April 28, 2021, 11:05:19 AM
Me I'm all in favour of sprint races, I'll get more bang for my buck when viewing F1 over the 3 days. What's not to like.

I am not sure I like the points being awarded. Why do they do that?

I'm sure it's been necessary to balance the top teams risk v reward calculation to get them onboard.
Without unanimous approval they wouldn't be able to do it this season. Cut off dates for non consensual rule changes, that are not safety related, is a long time before the season starts. 
Title: Re: Three 2021 Grands Prix will have Qualifying Races
Post by: cosworth151 on April 28, 2021, 01:16:37 PM
It looks to me like it will just swing things even further in favor of the big teams. They can far better afford to write off a car on Saturday. I've always been a fan of the smaller, independent teams. They will be the ones who won't be able to make the grid on Sunday if they get a car wiped out on Saturday.
Title: Re: Three 2021 Grands Prix will have Qualifying Races
Post by: lkjohnson1950 on April 28, 2021, 05:08:36 PM
Might be time to think about allowing a spare car at those races again.
Title: Re: Three 2021 Grands Prix will have Qualifying Races
Post by: John S on April 28, 2021, 07:12:32 PM
Might be time to think about allowing a spare car at those races again.

What a great idea.  :good:
Bring back the T car.
Title: Re: Three 2021 Grands Prix will have Qualifying Races
Post by: Willy on April 28, 2021, 07:32:52 PM
Can't say I'm totally against the idea. I want to see how it plays out.
I do feel those with deeper pockets will benefit on Sunday if cars get damaged on Saturday.
Title: Re: Three 2021 Grands Prix will have Qualifying Races
Post by: Jericoke on April 29, 2021, 04:31:14 PM
Might be time to think about allowing a spare car at those races again.

What a great idea.  :good:
Bring back the T car.

A lot of things, like the T car, were stopped as a 'cost savings' measure.  Now that teams have a fixed budget, it's time to eliminate any 'cost savings' measures, and let teams spend their limited resources where they will.  You think you need a spare care more than you need to develop a new wing?  Go for it.
Title: Re: Three 2021 Grands Prix will have Qualifying Races
Post by: John S on April 29, 2021, 09:08:44 PM
Might be time to think about allowing a spare car at those races again.

What a great idea.  :good:
Bring back the T car.

A lot of things, like the T car, were stopped as a 'cost savings' measure.  Now that teams have a fixed budget, it's time to eliminate any 'cost savings' measures, and let teams spend their limited resources where they will.  You think you need a spare care more than you need to develop a new wing?  Go for it.

You know what F1 is like Jeri, if one's got a T car everyone will want one.  :D
Title: Re: Three 2021 Grands Prix will have Qualifying Races
Post by: Robem64 on April 30, 2021, 08:11:24 AM
On a positive note, at least they're trying it at three races first - rather than change every race to this format. What I don't like about this is the fact that in essence they've moved quali to a Friday. Kind of makes it impossible to watch if you're working!!!!
Title: Re: Three 2021 Grands Prix will have Qualifying Races
Post by: monty on May 02, 2021, 10:58:08 AM
I don't like the fact that it also serves as qualifying. One incident (even it that is caused by another driver) could result in both the sprint race and the main race being destroyed.
If it was a stand alone race with the almost insignificant points being awarded (for the front runners) it might have produced some 'go big or go home' drives from the backmarker teams.
Now it will literally be 'qualifying' but wrapped up in a race.
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