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Title: Kimi Angry with Ferrari
Post by: Dare on June 20, 2015, 09:43:10 PM
They want results to offer a new contract and them mess
up his qualifying....might we say Vettel clause



http://sports.yahoo.com/news/raikkonen-angry-ferrari-error-154333324--spt.html
Title: Re: Kimi Angry with Ferrari
Post by: Jericoke on June 21, 2015, 03:39:52 AM
I can't imagine Ferrari would favour Seb over Kimi.  Based on merchandise and fan reaction at the Canadian race Kimi is the man.

The Lotus merchandise tents were selling Kimi stuff!

It's an honest mistake which leads me to wonder how F1 teams are making such big mistakes.  RBR going from top to solid mid pack.  Mercedes fumbling strategy and only winning because of design.  Williams showing up like Jekyll and Hyde. McLaren 'looking like amateurs'.

Is the competition so close that a mere moment of indecision is the difference between top 5 and bottom 5?  Are the teams so tangled in corporate interests that they can't make split second decisions?  Are the people in charge simply not qualified?
Title: Re: Kimi Angry with Ferrari
Post by: dd on July 17, 2015, 10:16:14 PM
He's worried that following the Fangio exhumation a cloning will be accomplished, and Ferrari will offer the new Fangio a ride in time for Spa!
Title: Re: Kimi Angry with Ferrari
Post by: Philbe on July 18, 2015, 08:15:17 PM
He"s just keeping the seat warm for Bottas anyway.  ;)
Title: Re: Kimi Angry with Ferrari
Post by: Steve A. on July 18, 2015, 08:27:20 PM
He"s just keeping the seat warm for Bottas anyway.  ;)

The ice man, keeping the seat warm  8)
Title: Re: Kimi Angry with Ferrari
Post by: cosworth151 on July 19, 2015, 03:27:59 PM
It's not just Vettel. Ferrari has a long history of being a "one driver & the other guy" team. Kimi seems to have fallen afoul of that.
Title: Re: Kimi Angry with Ferrari
Post by: Dare on July 22, 2015, 03:33:53 AM
It's not just Vettel. Ferrari has a long history of being a "one driver & the other guy" team. Kimi seems to have fallen afoul of that.

In the cut throat world of F1 Ferrari treats their drivers as
badly as any team.

Rueben's forced out
Michael forced out
Kimi forced out
Massa forced out
Alonso....who knows what happened
Kimi probably forced out again

Seems like with the passing of Enzo Ferrari treated their
drivers like crap
Title: Re: Kimi Angry with Ferrari
Post by: lkjohnson1950 on July 22, 2015, 04:17:02 AM
Actually, they are carrying on in the Enzo tradition. Ferrari was notorious for his "I have given you the best car, why aren't you winning?" attitude. Phil Hill left Ferrari partly because he couldn't stand dealing with Enzo.
Title: Re: Kimi Angry with Ferrari
Post by: Steve A. on July 24, 2015, 07:12:49 PM
Ferrari have never been a driver friendly team.
Title: Re: Kimi Angry with Ferrari
Post by: Jericoke on July 24, 2015, 08:07:51 PM
Ferrari have never been a driver friendly team.

Except the time they built an entire decade around Michael Schumacher.

I think their problem is they keep expecting to find the best driver as a solution, forgetting the team really was built around him.  They didn't just have the best driver, but they had the best designers, strategists, factory workers, pit stop men, everything.
Title: Re: Kimi Angry with Ferrari
Post by: Steve A. on July 24, 2015, 10:47:12 PM
Ferrari have never been a driver friendly team.

Except the time they built an entire decade around Michael Schumacher.

I think their problem is they keep expecting to find the best driver as a solution, forgetting the team really was built around him.  They didn't just have the best driver, but they had the best designers, strategists, factory workers, pit stop men, everything.

Very good point, that team is now scattered round the paddock or not even part of the paddock.
Title: Re: Kimi Angry with Ferrari
Post by: Alianora La Canta on July 31, 2015, 12:01:39 AM
Ferrari have never been a driver friendly team.

Except the time they built an entire decade around Michael Schumacher.


Probably because that was also the time Jean Todt decided the solution to their problems was to buy the core of Bennetton (which was usually as driver-friendly team at its core... ...probably as a counter-reaction to Flavio Briatore's distinctly driver-unfriendly approach!)
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