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Other Sports / Re: Michael Jordan & 2 Teams Suing NASCAR

« Last post by cosworth151 on October 04, 2024, 10:56:06 PM »

There are a limited number of charters. Some teams race without them right now. The main thing a charter does is to guarantee a the team a starting spot in every race.

Other Sports / Re: Michael Jordan & 2 Teams Suing NASCAR

« Last post by Dare on October 03, 2024, 10:00:08 PM »

Jordan needs to try and enter F1. When's he not allowed he can soue for discrimination

Other Sports / Re: Michael Jordan & 2 Teams Suing NASCAR

« Last post by Jericoke on October 03, 2024, 06:17:18 PM »

The article doesn't really explain the issue.

I assume the 'charters' that teams sign are analogous to F1's Concorde Agreement. Except in F1, a team can still compete in the FIA world championship without receiving the benefits (i.e., prize money) of the Concorde Agreement. Since NASCAR/France family runs the entire sport, I guess there's no legal option to race without a charter.

I guess my question is what is Jordan's complaint? Is he complaining that the teams aren't being fairly compensated? No one is forcing him to sign on. Is he complaining it's impossible to race without being a NASCAR team? I think that IndyCar would put lie to that. And any of hundreds of local tracks that run racing programs without any affiliation with NASCAR.

Without really knowing what the specific complaint is, hard to say who is 'right' and who is 'wrong'. I'm guessing Jordan is coming to this as an outsider, so he might think that business as usual isn't being fair to teams who have been exploited by the France Family for years. Or he might not understand that some NASCAR teams feel that racing is more important than making as much money as possible from their racing operations, and don't care that they're leaving money on the table as long as they get to race week in and week out.

Other Sports / Michael Jordan & 2 Teams Suing NASCAR

« Last post by cosworth151 on October 03, 2024, 05:07:16 PM »

We've talked a lot about F1 blocking Andretti's attempts to get into the sport. Here's the opposite side of that situation. NASCAR is finding out what happens when you let anyone with a pile of cash buy a team.

Micheal Jordan, 23XI Racing and Front Row Motorsports are suing NASCAR under the U.S. anti trust laws for anti-competitive practices to prevent fair competition in the sport. Among the specifics:

Forcing teams to buy their parts from single-source suppliers chosen by NASCAR.

Maybe NASCAR could make up a "Spec Racing for Dummies" book for prospective owners.

The scary part of it is that some judge doesn't know a race car from a tea trolley could majorly screw up racing for the entire country.

https://www.autoweek.com/racing/nascar/a62487743/michael-jordan-2-teams-sue-nascar/

F1 Drivers / Re: Logan Sargeant Gets IndyCar Tryout

« Last post by Jericoke on September 30, 2024, 05:52:11 PM »

While I haven't focused on IndyCar in decades, I do know that they're much more open about the 'musical chairs' being part of the sport than F1 is right now. If Sargent does well, he'll show up in a few races at minimum. Even the most tenuous teams still give a driver a chance to show their stuff in 'equal machinery'. If Sargent is suited for IndyCar, he'll rise to the top.

I wish him the best of luck!

F1 Drivers / Logan Sargeant Gets IndyCar Tryout

« Last post by cosworth151 on September 30, 2024, 05:08:47 PM »

Former Williams F1 driver Logan Sargeant will get an IndyCar test for MSR in November. Mike Shank says that he doesn't have any IndyCar seats open for next season but "As IndyCar owners, you're kind of foolish not to test a Super License holder who's 23 years old." He does have an large IMSA program too.

MSR's shops are about 25 miles from my house.

https://www.autoweek.com/racing/indycar/a62413606/mike-shank-excited-logan-sargeant-indycar-test/