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Title: Pre-Season Testing Thread
Post by: guest3164 on February 17, 2019, 08:41:45 AM
Starts tomorrow in Barcelona. 

Although for Williams it starts on Tuesday as the FW42 won't be ready in time  :fool: :fool:
Title: Re: Pre-Season Testing Thread
Post by: Alonsofan on February 17, 2019, 11:48:36 AM
Maybe they just don't want the other teams to see how quick they are so early on  ;)
Title: Re: Pre-Season Testing Thread
Post by: John S on February 17, 2019, 12:54:25 PM
Or maybe Paddy and the crew just can't give up the long Sunday Lunch habit.  :tease:

I'll be waiting to see if them 3/4 width front wings on the Alfa make it onto track in earnest.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Testing Thread
Post by: guest3164 on February 17, 2019, 01:09:37 PM
That would be an epic red herring from Ferrari Alfa Romeo if the 3/4 wing was not used in earnest! 
Title: Re: Pre-Season Testing Thread
Post by: guest3164 on February 18, 2019, 08:06:56 AM
5 minutes in and a red flag!  Kimi had a spin off track in his Alfa Romeo. 
Title: Re: Pre-Season Testing Thread
Post by: Calman on February 18, 2019, 08:21:16 AM
I'm ready with my paint tin for these crafty RB's and Alfa's .... off to bed soon, but please can a kind sould put me out of my misery and tell me what they see (livery related).

Otherwise, sure I can dig something up early tomorrow, then I can complete the set and get of with set up.

Cheers,
Cal :)
Title: Re: Pre-Season Testing Thread
Post by: guest3164 on February 18, 2019, 08:27:36 AM
Here you go:

(https://images.scribblelive.com/2019/2/18/353c971f-52ac-40cc-9f58-921d65760e7c_800.jpg)

And the Red Bull too:

(https://images.scribblelive.com/2019/2/18/18d16b54-6974-49fa-9d4e-591a856a1edd_800.jpg)
Title: Re: Pre-Season Testing Thread
Post by: Calman on February 18, 2019, 08:30:59 AM
Ahhh!!!!

So, much the same looking as 2018 (at a glance of course, where fine detail is irrelevant in my wee car designs).

You're a LEGEND Luke!!  :good: :good: :good: *high fives*

See you tomorrow,
Cal :)
Title: Re: Pre-Season Testing Thread
Post by: John S on February 18, 2019, 12:51:31 PM
OH NO! Williams really in trouble, they'll probably miss day 2 of testing as well.  :swoon:

Maybe someone put Rexona in the tank instead of Rokit fuel.  :D
Title: Re: Pre-Season Testing Thread
Post by: guest3164 on February 18, 2019, 01:41:27 PM
OH NO! Williams really in trouble, they'll probably miss day 2 of testing as well.  :swoon:

Maybe someone put Rexona in the tank instead of Rokit fuel.  :D

It was that cursed Lance Stroll, just before he left to join daddy at his new team  >:(
Title: Re: Pre-Season Testing Thread
Post by: John S on February 18, 2019, 05:35:26 PM
Here's the times from first days testing with tyres best lap set on and number of laps.

Puts a bit more perspective on just the raw times.

https://twitter.com/pirellisport/status/1097547625434415104?s=20
Title: Re: Pre-Season Testing Thread
Post by: guest3164 on February 18, 2019, 06:16:45 PM
No, nothing happened today John.  Testing doesn't start until Wednesday morning, at the earliest.  At least, that's what I've heard!
Title: Re: Pre-Season Testing Thread
Post by: lkjohnson1950 on February 18, 2019, 11:00:40 PM
Kimi thinks ALFA are moving ahead,

https://www.racefans.net/2019/02/18/raikkonen-alfa-romeo-has-made-a-big-step-since-last-year/ (https://www.racefans.net/2019/02/18/raikkonen-alfa-romeo-has-made-a-big-step-since-last-year/)
Title: Re: Pre-Season Testing Thread
Post by: lkjohnson1950 on February 18, 2019, 11:12:58 PM
Horner continues R/B's lavish praise for Honda. Wonder how long that will last if Max starts DNFing on a regular basis.

https://www.racefans.net/2019/02/18/red-bull-has-achieved-best-engine-installation-with-honda/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+f1fanatic+%28RaceFans+-+Independent+Motorsport+Coverage%29 (https://www.racefans.net/2019/02/18/red-bull-has-achieved-best-engine-installation-with-honda/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+f1fanatic+%28RaceFans+-+Independent+Motorsport+Coverage%29)
Title: Re: Pre-Season Testing Thread
Post by: Calman on February 18, 2019, 11:45:38 PM
Kimi thinks ALFA are moving ahead

It would make for a great story if Kimi and Alfa find a satisfying level of success - it would be a good thing for neutral fans and more so, a great thing for F1.

Best Regards,
Cal :)
Title: Re: Pre-Season Testing Thread
Post by: Jericoke on February 19, 2019, 02:15:45 AM
Kimi thinks ALFA are moving ahead

It would make for a great story if Kimi and Alfa find a satisfying level of success - it would be a good thing for neutral fans and more so, a great thing for F1.

Best Regards,
Cal :)

As much as I'd love F1 teams to be privateers, I do think that recognizable names having success in the sport is good for the sport.

(McLaren and Ferrari DID start as privateers afterall, and are known names outside the sport.  I know that Williams is a respectable engineering company, I wish they'd have a little more success on track to back up that reputation.)
Title: Re: Pre-Season Testing Thread
Post by: Alianora La Canta on February 19, 2019, 06:19:01 AM
Dad has predicted Kimi to get a podium this year since more or less the moment when Kimi signed for them, and now I can see why.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Testing Thread
Post by: Robem64 on February 19, 2019, 07:23:11 AM
Dad has predicted Kimi to get a podium this year since more or less the moment when Kimi signed for them, and now I can see why.

I think your Dad could be right.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Testing Thread
Post by: guest3164 on February 19, 2019, 08:08:20 AM
Following on from yesterdays red flag in the 5th minute of testing, today Albon has brought it out in the second minute.  Impressive!
Title: Re: Pre-Season Testing Thread
Post by: Monty on February 20, 2019, 12:54:15 PM
Raikkonen ends Ferrari’s reign in Barcelona testing

I know these testing times are mostly irrelevant but I can't help thinking that it particularly good to see Kimi knocking Ferrari off the top of the sheet!
Title: Re: Pre-Season Testing Thread
Post by: guest3164 on February 20, 2019, 01:40:00 PM
It's alive!!!  The FW42 makes it on to the track.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Testing Thread
Post by: guest3164 on February 20, 2019, 03:02:42 PM
That installation lap was a thing of beauty, no doubt  :yahoo:
Title: Re: Pre-Season Testing Thread
Post by: Monty on February 20, 2019, 04:14:28 PM
Despite nearly spinning, Russell is quickly reducing his lap times.
It really brings home the problem of not having a driver with recent F1 experience. If he is slow; is it him or is it the car?? If both Russell and Kubica are slow, is it them or is it the car??
Title: Re: Pre-Season Testing Thread
Post by: Monty on February 20, 2019, 04:16:29 PM
Despite nearly spinning, Russell is quickly reducing his lap times (now in 1'25").
It really brings home the problem of not having a driver with recent F1 experience. If he is slow; is it him or is it the car?? If both Russell and Kubica are slow, is it them or is it the car??
Title: Re: Pre-Season Testing Thread
Post by: Monty on February 20, 2019, 05:05:48 PM
 1) Daniil Kvyat, Toro Rosso, 1:17.704, 137 laps; 2) Kimi Raikkonen, Alfa Romeo, 1:17.762, 138 laps; 3) Daniel Ricciardo, Renault, 1:18.164, 80 laps; 4) Sebastian Vettel, Ferrari, 1:18.350, 134 laps; 5) Max Verstappen, Red Bull, 1:18.787, 109 laps; 6) Nico Hulkenberg, Renault, 1:18.800, 63 laps;  7) Romain Grosjean, Haas, 1:19.060, 69 laps; 8) Pietro Fittipaldi, Haas, 1:19.249, 48 laps; 9) Carlos Sainz, McLaren, 1:19.354, 90 laps;  10) Sergio Perez, Racing Point, 1:20.102, 67 laps; 11) Valtteri Bottas, Mercedes, 1:20.693, 88 laps; 12) Lewis Hamilton, Mercedes, 1:20.818, 94 laps; 13) George Russell, Williams, 1:25.625, 23 laps
Title: Re: Pre-Season Testing Thread
Post by: John S on February 20, 2019, 09:12:25 PM
What's missing from your best times list is the tyres Monty.
The top 3 all set times on the softest compound, Vettel set his on the medium C3 compound.

Still gives us a clue that some of the mid field are in good shape for Melbourne, all we need to know now is will the engines take it when they turn em up.  :D
Title: Re: Pre-Season Testing Thread
Post by: lkjohnson1950 on February 20, 2019, 09:17:07 PM
There are already reports of a major vibration in the Honda, which Horner of course denied, but  :DntKnw:
Title: Re: Pre-Season Testing Thread
Post by: guest3164 on February 20, 2019, 09:24:46 PM
Those Honda vibration rumours just won't disappear.  I am convinced there is something about them and the relationship will sour very quickly if it is the case.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Testing Thread
Post by: Monty on February 21, 2019, 08:11:31 AM
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What's missing from your best times list is the tyres Monty.
Excuse me but at the time of reporting that information wasn't available  ;) I had to stop watching then because I was meant to be working.
I do not take anything from these times anyway. I'm sure Russell being 5seconds off the next slowest driver does not indicate that he or the car cannot do better times and I am even more certain that the fact that Hamilton is that 'next slowest' driver does not indicate that Mercedes are facing a season at the back of the grid! All we can take from these times, and all of the testing so far, is that the cars all have speed and reliability has been quite good. Fingers crossed for a good season.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Testing Thread
Post by: Robem64 on February 21, 2019, 12:54:20 PM
My favourite comment so far from social media

"Good see Lance Stroll achieving his potential and taking Racing Point to the back of the grid"
Title: Re: Pre-Season Testing Thread
Post by: Monty on February 21, 2019, 03:43:46 PM
Russell went out this afternoon on C3 tyres and was instantly faster than Kubica with a 1.21.3
Not sure if this is important??!!
Mercedes are now showing real speed for the first time with 1.17.9 laps.
Top 9 are covered by 1 second and includes the 'big three' plus Toro Rosso, Renault, Alfa Romeo and Haas.
All very interesting
Title: Re: Pre-Season Testing Thread
Post by: guest3164 on February 21, 2019, 05:51:37 PM
Was Kubica's best time though not set on the C2 tyre? 
Title: Re: Pre-Season Testing Thread
Post by: lkjohnson1950 on February 21, 2019, 06:03:06 PM
My favourite comment so far from social media

"Good see Lance Stroll achieving his potential and taking Racing Point to the back of the grid"

Racing Point said that the chassis is basically last year's car with necessary changes to the aero kit. Being in administration last year precluded them from doing the design work for an all new car. Still, if there is a huge difference between Perez and Stroll, that will be telling.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Testing Thread
Post by: John S on February 21, 2019, 06:55:39 PM
Was Kubica's best time though not set on the C2 tyre?

Indeed it was Luke, that's one harder than the C3 medium that Russell used.
Likewise Stroll set his best on C2, but was still faster than Checo's best set on C3.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Testing Thread
Post by: guest3164 on February 21, 2019, 07:54:13 PM
Indeed it was Luke, that's one harder than the C3 medium that Russell used.
Likewise Stroll set his best on C2, but was still faster than Checo's best set on C3.

I thought so John, and by Pirelli's reckoning that would account for 0.7s alone.  Williams today are just making sure their car actually works.  I wonder if Stroll is out for some headlines in testing?  I mean, him personally, not the team!
Title: Re: Pre-Season Testing Thread
Post by: John S on February 22, 2019, 11:48:08 AM

  I wonder if Stroll is out for some headlines in testing?  I mean, him personally, not the team!

I can see why you'd think that, but I think it's just different time of day on track. Mind you some cars seem better on some tyres than others, for instance the commentators on Sky were talking about the best time set on hard tyres was Lando's McLaren, this is not repeated on the softer compounds.

To show how it's hard to draw anything substantive from the best times; Lewis had an aborted lap that was purple in the first 2 sectors, only to come across Kubica messing about in slow gear in the latter part of the lap - there was almost a collision - it was enough to take headline off Lewis' lap though.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Testing Thread
Post by: Scott on February 22, 2019, 03:46:58 PM
I only watched the highlights, but I saw an exact opposite of the incident you described...Kubica rounded a corner to find Lewis checking his email or something and had to go off-track to avoid. 

Perhaps if both happened, the version you describe was payback.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Testing Thread
Post by: Calman on February 23, 2019, 10:16:58 PM
I'm still playing catch up with a LOT of pre-season testing hours to watch (only on Day 3, Part 1 right now).  So, once I come up for air, I will be able to read recent comments and know where everyone is at, so to speak.

Best Regards,
Cal :)
Title: Re: Pre-Season Testing Thread
Post by: Alianora La Canta on February 24, 2019, 09:17:10 AM
My favourite comment so far from social media

"Good see Lance Stroll achieving his potential and taking Racing Point to the back of the grid"

Racing Point said that the chassis is basically last year's car with necessary changes to the aero kit. Being in administration last year precluded them from doing the design work for an all new car. Still, if there is a huge difference between Perez and Stroll, that will be telling.

That means it's basically the 2017 car with half a season's updates plus necessary changes to the car design, for these were pretty much the comments from last year.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Testing Thread
Post by: Alonsofan on February 27, 2019, 11:17:37 AM
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.gpfans.com/en/amp/article.php%3fid=4329

 :DD  :DD oops, if he can he do that again in Australia I will be quids in and very happy hehe
Title: Re: Pre-Season Testing Thread
Post by: guest3164 on March 01, 2019, 08:00:08 PM
So, with regards to 2019 pre season testing...

(https://cmkt-image-prd.global.ssl.fastly.net/0.1.0/ps/224481/580/400/m1/fpnw/wm0/preview-.jpg?1414825349&s=67c7b66c98bae5355c3bd132db308563)

Consensus seems to be that Ferrari are out front although Hamilton was within 3 thousandths of a second of him today. 

However, on the basis of what has happened so far, I feel that at least in Australia, things will look like this:

Ferrari
Mercedes
Red Bull

Renault/Alfa Romeo
Haas/McLaren
Toro Rosso
Racing Point





Williams
Title: Re: Pre-Season Testing Thread
Post by: Calman on March 01, 2019, 08:24:57 PM
You know, I was about to post, you missed out Williams, then this weird thing happened, my eyes moved downward!!!

Right, MUST go grab lunch now - then deal with a scripting headache thereafter!  :crazy:

Later folks,
Cal :)
Title: Re: Pre-Season Testing Thread
Post by: lkjohnson1950 on March 01, 2019, 10:15:49 PM
Might not be that bad, Kubica says he thinks the car is a great step forward from last year and has good potential.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Testing Thread
Post by: John S on March 01, 2019, 11:38:36 PM
Yeah but a step forward Lonny would be regularly fighting to be 12th instead of 14th or 15th.   :D
Title: Re: Pre-Season Testing Thread
Post by: guest3164 on March 02, 2019, 10:16:09 AM
I think the car is predictable unlike the FW41, but that is not saying much.  By all accounts (and I do mean 'all') the car is just slow at the moment, lacking downforce and outright grip.  So the drivers can predict what will happen and the car is stable, but they cannot push and were having to lift off at places where other cars were going flat out. 

My hope is that this is because the car tested in Barcelona is a very, very early and basic version of the car and within a few races, the full spec car will be unleashed. 
Title: Re: Pre-Season Testing Thread
Post by: Robem64 on March 03, 2019, 04:48:16 PM
I went to the last day of testing on Friday and posted a few pics up in Members pics if anyone's interested.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Testing Thread
Post by: guest3164 on March 03, 2019, 05:26:25 PM
Great photos!  Where were you to take them?! 
Title: Re: Pre-Season Testing Thread
Post by: Robem64 on March 03, 2019, 05:51:09 PM
Luke, we had access to over the pits and the paddock too - as my wife and I are both F1 followers then we treated ourselves as a Xmas pressie. We could never afford this for a race weekend but it's surprisingly reasonable for pre-season testing. It was a brilliant day and I'd definitely do it again.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Testing Thread
Post by: guest3164 on March 03, 2019, 06:18:55 PM
I do not blame you pushing the boat out for that access during testing!  It looks like you had some stunning views of the cars.  Definitely something I will try to do in the future, maybe if I get my contract at work renewed past the end of April I can plan to take a break and go next year. 
Title: Re: Pre-Season Testing Thread
Post by: Robem64 on March 03, 2019, 09:07:54 PM
Do it Luke, you won't be disappointed.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Testing Thread
Post by: cosworth151 on March 03, 2019, 10:11:16 PM
Great pix! Looks like you did get right up close.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Testing Thread
Post by: Alonsofan on March 04, 2019, 10:12:40 PM
Cool pictures Robem  :good:
I was looking at some of your older pics....I can't believe you got to see Fernando up close, he looks like he needs a hug.  :swoon: :swoon: :swoon:
Title: Re: Pre-Season Testing Thread
Post by: Calman on March 05, 2019, 12:07:33 AM
Good to see you back Alonsofan!!  :good:

Best Regards,
Cal :)
Title: Re: Pre-Season Testing Thread
Post by: Alonsofan on March 05, 2019, 07:06:29 AM
Good to see you back Alonsofan!!  :good:

Best Regards,
Cal :)

Thanks Calman  :D but I am only half back hehe. My daughter has taken over my profile picture already in preparation for her playing the GG. I don't know how long this blonde can stay on my profile I am missing the picture of my Baby Cakes already  :'( hehe


Title: Re: Pre-Season Testing Thread
Post by: Calman on March 05, 2019, 07:13:40 AM
Oh, I see! ... in that case, just for your Daughter >>>

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0h5aYg-C22A

Best Regards,
Cal :)
Title: Re: Pre-Season Testing Thread
Post by: Alonsofan on March 05, 2019, 07:55:48 AM
Cool Calman  :good: but this is better

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=233gIsIUYN0

So funny when she falls down the stairs and her head falls off   :DD
From the Meryl fan  :D
Title: Re: Pre-Season Testing Thread
Post by: Robem64 on March 05, 2019, 08:03:05 AM
Cool pictures Robem  :good:
I was looking at some of your older pics....I can't believe you got to see Fernando up close, he looks like he needs a hug.  :swoon: :swoon: :swoon:

Lol, he looked like he needed a few hugs at the events we went to. How frustrating if McLaren actually have a decent reliable car this year - it certainly seemed that way in testing. Incidentally, I have to say all the cars livery looks so much better live than in the pictures. Except the Ferrari - it's not Ferrari Red, it just looks like burnt orange and half finished!
Title: Re: Pre-Season Testing Thread
Post by: Calman on March 05, 2019, 08:23:56 AM
Incidentally, I have to say all the cars livery looks so much better live than in the pictures. Except the Ferrari - it's not Ferrari Red, it just looks like burnt orange and half finished!

Indeed Rob!

Most sources would have us believe that light conditions made the car appear "orange" (or at least a pale/rusted mid tone red), but I can fully trust your feedback, as many fans are also concerned how "un-red" the car looks.  A long way from the blood-red Ferrari of yesteryear!!

Even launch photos looked weird - again, trying to convince fans that lighting was the primary culprit.

Best Regards,
Cal :)
Title: Re: Pre-Season Testing Thread
Post by: Alonsofan on March 05, 2019, 09:02:10 AM
Cool pictures Robem  :good:
I was looking at some of your older pics....I can't believe you got to see Fernando up close, he looks like he needs a hug.  :swoon: :swoon: :swoon:

Lol, he looked like he needed a few hugs at the events we went to. How frustrating if McLaren actually have a decent reliable car this year - it certainly seemed that way in testing. Incidentally, I have to say all the cars livery looks so much better live than in the pictures. Except the Ferrari - it's not Ferrari Red, it just looks like burnt orange and half finished!

I am up for a few hugs...a whole day of hugs would be better hehe

I can pretty much guarantee McLaren will have a good car this year, that's just how Baby Cakes luck works  :'(

As for Ferrari, hopefully the engine goes bang and it turns a burnt shade of burnt orange hehe
Title: Re: Pre-Season Testing Thread
Post by: Calman on March 05, 2019, 09:36:23 PM
I have a feeling that this could be Ferrari's year!! ... so I hope they don't go "bang"  :o

It would be nice to see McLaren move forward and if a miracle exists, some progress for Williams.

Best Regards,
Cal :)
Title: Re: Pre-Season Testing Thread
Post by: Jericoke on March 06, 2019, 03:17:52 PM
I have a feeling that this could be Ferrari's year!! ... so I hope they don't go "bang"  :o

It would be nice to see McLaren move forward and if a miracle exists, some progress for Williams.

Best Regards,
Cal :)

Let's be honest... a Ferrari run away win will be boring.  (Or Mercedes, or Red Bull)  I hope that if someone has initial success they do stumble. 

Unless it's Alfa.  Kimi winning 21/21 would be the best F1 season ever!
Title: Re: Pre-Season Testing Thread
Post by: Calman on March 06, 2019, 06:18:35 PM
Cleary.

All I am saying, is that I have a feeling that Ferrari are better prepared this season and may be able to finally take the challenge to Mercedes.  Nothing can be certain until we see how things unfold in the first few races.   Ultimately, whatever team/driver any of us support, I think we can all agree that closer competition up and down the grid, with unpredictable results - is "good for the show".

Apologies for sounding a bit like "Liberty Media" at the end of that, but you get the idea!!

Best Regards,
Cal :)
Title: Re: Pre-Season Testing Thread
Post by: lkjohnson1950 on March 07, 2019, 02:30:25 AM
Two rumors I have stumbled across. 1) Ferrari has a reliability problem they are dealing with in the run up to OZ. This may have something to do with the suspension collapse on Vettel's car during testing. 2) Honda is redesigning part of their power unit's layout due to overheating issues during testing that they feel are related to packaging. Just throwin' it out there.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Testing Thread
Post by: guest3164 on March 07, 2019, 08:28:06 AM
The Honda rumour is more than that, I think I read someone at Honda admit that they are having to alter part of the engine package! 
Title: Re: Pre-Season Testing Thread
Post by: John S on March 07, 2019, 08:51:50 AM
Sounds like the age old F1 problem, you can run car/engine at the ragged edge....... or you can run reliably.
Getting the two in synch ain't just a question of money - although it helps a lot.  :D
Title: Re: Pre-Season Testing Thread
Post by: Monty on March 07, 2019, 09:26:23 AM
Quote
The Honda rumour is more than that, I think I read someone at Honda admit that they are having to alter part of the engine package!

It is true that Honda have said that the "packaging is too aggressive" but this in itself does not mean they have a problem. History has shown that many ICE packages have created cooling problems or stress problems and casings etc. can be quickly and easily modified without a massively negative effect. However, the other rumour is of 'vibration'. Vibration is an engine designers worst fear - it almost always ends in catastrophic failure and I can't see how the 'packaging' could cause vibration. It will be interesting to see if anyone can identify what 'packaging' changes they make.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Testing Thread
Post by: guest3164 on March 07, 2019, 09:28:59 AM
If it is not a problem or a potential problem, they would not feel the need to alter it though.  After all, you don't fix what ain't broke!
Title: Re: Pre-Season Testing Thread
Post by: Jericoke on March 07, 2019, 03:32:55 PM
If it is not a problem or a potential problem, they would not feel the need to alter it though.  After all, you don't fix what ain't broke!

You work on enough big projects with enough people, you'll see non broken things changed because someone higher up confused 'radical idea' for 'broken'.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Testing Thread
Post by: Alonsofan on March 07, 2019, 05:59:28 PM
Two rumors I have stumbled across. 1) Ferrari has a reliability problem they are dealing with in the run up to OZ. This may have something to do with the suspension collapse on Vettel's car during testing. 2) Honda is redesigning part of their power unit's layout due to overheating issues during testing that they feel are related to packaging. Just throwin' it out there.

Hopefully rumour 1 is true and not easily fixed hehe. To see Vettel becoming a 5 time world champion would seriously grate. Also that's means I would have screwed up in my Dream Team....Calman....only joking hehe
Title: Re: Pre-Season Testing Thread
Post by: lkjohnson1950 on March 08, 2019, 06:37:33 PM
Marko is flapping his mouth again. R/B is faster than Mercedes and will win 5 races this year.

https://www.racefans.net/2019/03/08/red-bull-win-five-f1-races-2019-marko/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+f1fanatic+%28RaceFans+-+Independent+Motorsport+Coverage%29 (https://www.racefans.net/2019/03/08/red-bull-win-five-f1-races-2019-marko/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+f1fanatic+%28RaceFans+-+Independent+Motorsport+Coverage%29)
Title: Re: Pre-Season Testing Thread
Post by: Calman on March 08, 2019, 08:30:53 PM
Marko is flapping his mouth again. R/B is faster than Mercedes and will win 5 races this year.

https://www.racefans.net/2019/03/08/red-bull-win-five-f1-races-2019-marko/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+f1fanatic+%28RaceFans+-+Independent+Motorsport+Coverage%29 (https://www.racefans.net/2019/03/08/red-bull-win-five-f1-races-2019-marko/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+f1fanatic+%28RaceFans+-+Independent+Motorsport+Coverage%29)

I wish Marko would Flap Off!! ... then we all may enjoy the season without Playground Antics!!!  |-(

Best Regards,
Cal :)
Title: Re: Pre-Season Testing Thread
Post by: Scott on March 09, 2019, 04:16:48 PM
He was either drunk or dreaming...
Title: Re: Pre-Season Testing Thread
Post by: Jericoke on March 10, 2019, 05:14:36 PM
Marko is flapping his mouth again. R/B is faster than Mercedes and will win 5 races this year.

https://www.racefans.net/2019/03/08/red-bull-win-five-f1-races-2019-marko/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+f1fanatic+%28RaceFans+-+Independent+Motorsport+Coverage%29 (https://www.racefans.net/2019/03/08/red-bull-win-five-f1-races-2019-marko/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+f1fanatic+%28RaceFans+-+Independent+Motorsport+Coverage%29)

So Marko didn't watch the 2018 season.  Mercedes did NOT have the fastest car, and still produced a double championship.  They did it through skill, they did it through driving, they did it through head games and they did it through teamwork.  It was an earned championship won on race days, not the drawing board.

If Marko's plan is to have the better car than Mercedes, they're not going to win.  They need the better team.  They need the better drivers.  They need better race days.

They also need the better head games, and that is something that Marko feels like the opposite of.
Title: Re: Pre-Season Testing Thread
Post by: Calman on March 10, 2019, 07:49:38 PM
Never mind, I think I read somewhere in the last 24hrs, that Marko has suggested that RBR will win at least 6 races in 2019 (or was it 8) ??  :crazy:

Must go hunt down a suitable link to underline his words!!

Best Regards,
Cal :)
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