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Title: Alonso:another engine failure
Post by: Dare on April 30, 2017, 05:42:20 PM
If Alonso is at Mclaren it will be the biggest surprise
in F1 history.Funny how Whitmarsh was sacked and
his results weren't a fraction as bad as  Bouiller.

http://www.skysports.com/f1/news/12433/10858427/fernando-alonso-and-mclaren-hit-new-low-after-honda-engine-breaks-on-russian-gp-formation-lap
Title: Re: Alonso:another engine failure
Post by: Scott on April 30, 2017, 09:57:44 PM
Thought it was ERS or something electric...
Title: Re: Alonso:another engine failure
Post by: lkjohnson1950 on May 01, 2017, 12:04:04 AM
It was hard to hear the radio, but it sounded like he said the battery wasn't charged. Either the battery was bad or the ERS wasn't charging it.
Title: Re: Alonso:another engine failure
Post by: Dare on May 01, 2017, 12:38:37 AM
Scott I was late as usual and when I heard Alonso was a
DNS I assumed with Honda's reputation it was the engine.
Title: Re: Alonso:another engine failure
Post by: Jericoke on May 01, 2017, 04:27:15 AM
Scott I was late as usual and when I heard Alonso was a
DNS I assumed with Honda's reputation it was the engine.

Isn't Honda responsible for the entire 'power unit'?  If ERS isn't working, doesn't that come under Honda's efforts?
Title: Re: Alonso:another engine failure
Post by: Scott on May 01, 2017, 05:49:09 AM
I thought Mclaren were electrical wizards with them making the engine management chips and all the rest, but you might be right, it could be Honda's baby.  I wonder how Sauber is going to deal with Honda next year.
Title: Re: Alonso:another engine failure
Post by: Alianora La Canta on May 01, 2017, 08:58:52 PM
Scott I was late as usual and when I heard Alonso was a
DNS I assumed with Honda's reputation it was the engine.

Under F1 regulations, the ERS is classed as a type of engine component (albeit a different type to the ICE that Stoffel's somehow used 5 of already).
Title: Re: Alonso:another engine failure
Post by: cosworth151 on May 02, 2017, 12:24:38 PM
McLaren makes the Electronic Control Units (ECU) used by all the teams. The FIA claims that mandating a standard ECU prevents teams from hiding launch control software in the system. The energy harvesting/storage systems are provided by the engine builders.

Honda says that Alonso's MGU-H wasn't working. They attempted to reboot it & accidentally shut down the entire engine.

MGU-H stands for Motor Generator Unit-Heat. It harvests heat from the turbo & exhaust and converts it to electrical energy. It is then stored in the Electrical Store (ES, what normal folks would call a battery pack). The ES also store power harvested by the MGU-K. It is driven by the wheels. That part of the system used to be called KERS. The stored electrical power can them be used for the hybrid power electric motors.

http://www.racer.com/f1/item/140104-honda-explains-alonso-s-russia-dns
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