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Title: F1 Technique: Eight fixed gear ratios for 2014
Post by: Dare on November 15, 2013, 02:23:19 AM
Could make for some different winners,I hope

   

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By René Fagnan,
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Thursday, November 14, 2013


The Formula 1 technical regulations will be changing dramatically next season, and that includes the gearboxes.

In Austin for the US Grand Prix, we discussed the matter with an F1 engineer.

Current gearboxes have 7 forward speeds, plus reverse. Next year, with the introduction of the new turbo hybrid V6 engines, the gearboxes will need to have 8 forward gears.

“That’s one more gear than this year because these will be fixed. Today, we have to homologate 32 gears and we select the seven we need for each race from that lot. Next year, we will have to use the same gear ratios whatever the track we race on,” said the engineer.

It will be like a standard road car where the gears are fixed.

“We will be allowed to make just one change to the ratios in 2014 because we may make mistakes in choosing them. We may be too long on certain tracks while too short on others. So we will be using the same gear ratios at Monaco, the slowest circuit of the season, and Monza, the fastest track,” he explained.

Changing gear ratios will become a thing of the past in F1.

The new regulations also specify that drivers will need to use a gearbox for six consecutive events, an increase from the current five.
By René Fagnan,



The Formula 1 technical regulations will be changing dramatically next season, and that includes the gearboxes.

In Austin for the US Grand Prix, we discussed the matter with an F1 engineer.

Current gearboxes have 7 forward speeds, plus reverse. Next year, with the introduction of the new turbo hybrid V6 engines, the gearboxes will need to have 8 forward gears.

“That’s one more gear than this year because these will be fixed. Today, we have to homologate 32 gears and we select the seven we need for each race from that lot. Next year, we will have to use the same gear ratios whatever the track we race on,” said the engineer.

It will be like a standard road car where the gears are fixed.

“We will be allowed to make just one change to the ratios in 2014 because we may make mistakes in choosing them. We may be too long on certain tracks while too short on others. So we will be using the same gear ratios at Monaco, the slowest circuit of the season, and Monza, the fastest track,” he explained.

Changing gear ratios will become a thing of the past in F1.

The new regulations also specify that drivers will need to use a gearbox for six consecutive events, an increase from the current five.
Title: Re: F1 Technique: Eight fixed gear ratios for 2014
Post by: lkjohnson1950 on November 15, 2013, 06:43:12 AM
One more item specked, one less chance for a difference between cars.  :sick:
Title: Re: F1 Technique: Eight fixed gear ratios for 2014
Post by: Scott on November 15, 2013, 08:59:12 AM
One more item specked, one less chance for a difference between cars.  :sick:

One more engineer loses his job at each team...seriously, I like to think that teams can make changes like that.  If they are deficient in aero or traction, some of them can make it up with a bit of gear ratio changes.  To me this only benefits the big teams with massive aero programs.
Title: Re: F1 Technique: Eight fixed gear ratios for 2014
Post by: cosworth151 on November 15, 2013, 12:16:48 PM
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It will be like a standard road car where the gears are fixed.

Note to the FIA: Standard road cars are not single seat. They don't have open wheels. If we want to watch something like standard road cars, we can watch GTs. F1 is supposed to be about pure, thoroughbred racing cars. The idea of using the same gears for Monaco & Monza is insane. What a stupid, stupid rule!
Title: Re: F1 Technique: Eight fixed gear ratios for 2014
Post by: Jericoke on November 15, 2013, 03:51:17 PM
I don't like to use the expression 'artificial' passing because... there is nothing natural about motor racing...

...but it does sound like another way to make sure some cars get a chance to be competitive where they wouldn't have had one under the 'classic' rules.

I see this rule backfiring though:  yes, there will be different winners, but if the top teams are geared for different tracks, it's not like they'll be dicing it out on track each weekend, rather trading dominant weekends.

In terms of savings, I forsee further aero development at greater costs for another backfire.
Title: Re: F1 Technique: Eight fixed gear ratios for 2014
Post by: Irisado on November 15, 2013, 05:48:11 PM
Another nail in the coffin for diversity in Formula 1.  These rules are a joke.  I'm disheartened even more than I already was.
Title: Re: F1 Technique: Eight fixed gear ratios for 2014
Post by: Jericoke on November 15, 2013, 08:28:40 PM
Another nail in the coffin for diversity in Formula 1.  These rules are a joke.  I'm disheartened even more than I already was.

Actually, it will encourage diversity.

Currently the teams get to choose a distinct gearing for each track. I find it unlikely that there's much variety amongst the gears the teams choose on any given weekend.

However, now that teams must choose which tracks to aim to do well at, you'll end up with cars that are best suited to slower tracks, and cars that are suited better to fast tracks.

If you want variety at any given race weekend, then this is a good rule.  (Unless all teams decide to aim for cars that do well at slow tracks instead of fast tracks, then we're pretty much at status quo)
Title: Re: F1 Technique: Eight fixed gear ratios for 2014
Post by: Irisado on November 21, 2013, 06:35:58 PM
I'm not convinced.  I would really love it if you were to be proved right though :).
Title: Re: F1 Technique: Eight fixed gear ratios for 2014
Post by: Dare on November 22, 2013, 12:05:29 AM
IRL basically have the same cars yet the best teams
win year to year,the same will be for F1.No bucks
no Buck Rogers ;)
Title: Re: F1 Technique: Eight fixed gear ratios for 2014
Post by: F1fanaticBD on November 25, 2013, 10:27:38 AM
I will help the teams with simulator tremendously. But instead of making 32 homolagated ratios, will surely reduce the cost of this. Also I think it will limit the ability of the teams to improvise, specially if the rain is looming in the horizon.
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